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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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four year lease 2k down, 610 a month. 4 years. c 300 sport p1 option and tiptronic. really bad lease but i just had to have it. i got it on august 6th. first one. any ideas how i can get out of the lease i really regret it and it sucks now!!!
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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kease trader or swap a lease but no one is going to take a 35k car for 610 a month your going to have to lower the payments by giving the new lessee money....hate to tell you but the only to get out of that lease if gunna cost you alot of money because since it is a 4 year lease, that means you would have to offer a higher incentive (money to the buyer) in order to lower your monthly payment......I cant believe someone would actually take a lease like that.....you couldve gotten a 335i coupe ($45k) for the same price
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by c class boy
four year lease 2k down, 610 a month. 4 years. c 300 sport p1 option and tiptronic. really bad lease but i just had to have it. i got it on august 6th. first one. any ideas how i can get out of the lease i really regret it and it sucks now!!!
can you buy the car out and sell it? It would sell fast
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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can you buy the car out and sell it? It would sell fast
I don't think he would pay the buy out price since he hate the car, plus you can't sell a lease you don't own the car your pretty much renting the car from the dealer but you can trade it in and take a big hit. i would say 5 to 6g upside down on the trade. fyi most people who lease can't afford the car to begin with leasing is just another fancy word for renting
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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I believer you can buy a car out at any point during a lease. You see this alot with people looking to transfer a lease. Contact the dealer or mb financial and see what that price is. Good luck.
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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You can always buy out a lease, it will just be at a higher purchase price then if you had financed it to begin with...lower downpayment plus lower monthly payment equals higher buyout price. You aren't dealing with the dealer anymore because they sell their leases to banks and finance co's. So, even the dealer would have to buyout the lease at the higher cost.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by c class boy
four year lease 2k down, 610 a month. 4 years. c 300 sport p1 option and tiptronic. really bad lease but i just had to have it. i got it on august 6th. first one. any ideas how i can get out of the lease i really regret it and it sucks now!!!
You are kidding, right? Have you EVER leased before? Do you realize the bank or lease company owns you for the next 4 years? The buyout will be the total of payments plus the residual and any end of term costs. So, in other words, the buyout should be about 150-200% of the original sticker on the car.

If you knew it was a bad deal to begin with, what were you thinking?

Are you interested in loaning money to a sub-prime home buyer too?
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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You must be kidding me. Talk about bad decisions... but watever... you like it so that's all that matters. But give it about 4-6 months you're going to see the W204's at every stoplight and you're going to beat yourself for taking such a bad deal. Good luck

EDIT: I didn't read the part that says you regret it ALREADY... sorry to tell ya but looks like you're in this for 4 yrs

That's $31280 total in payments.. ouch

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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You are kidding, right? Have you EVER leased before? Do you realize the bank or lease company owns you for the next 4 years? The buyout will be the total of payments plus the residual and any end of term costs. So, in other words, the buyout should be about 150-200% of the original sticker on the car.

If you knew it was a bad deal to begin with, what were you thinking?

Are you interested in loaning money to a sub-prime home buyer too?
I don't believe that the payoff works that way. First of all, you need to see what the lease contract says about the acquisition price of the vehicle. The lease is based upon that price, less the residual and then factors in the cap reduction, money factor and term as the amount "financed" for your monthly payment. As far as payoff, it also factors in the acquistion price and what you have paid down in cap reduction and the payments you have made. 100% of your payments does not go against "principle". If the acquisition price of the vehicle was $45k, the bank is not going to require you to pay $50k to get out.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Hey, so speaking of bad leases. I can't find any really sold definitive answers on this. But modern leases are 'closed' right? At the end of the lease term, you turn the car in and walk away? I'm finding mention of a disposition fee, but no solid definition of that.

I remember my Dad leased a truck for work way back in the early 80's and it [edit: mean't wasn't] wasn't closed. He had to pay the difference between what the dealer would actually give him for the car, and what the residual was. Didn't matter that much to him since it was a work truck and written off, but I don't want that.

I'm finding a lot of sites that like to tell you all about money factors and residuals but nothing about the end of term process.

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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I got a bad lease offer as well. 650/month, 39 months, 12K mileage on a P2, MM, 18" and Auto (~41K), discount of $1000 with taxes paid up front....
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridege55
If the acquisition price of the vehicle was $45k, the bank is not going to require you to pay $50k to get out.
Back when I was young and naive, I too wanted to get out early from my lease. I was at least a year into it when I learned the buyout was going to be higher than the original price. The lease contract is exactly that. You are agreeing to pay a specified amount to the bank, whether it it over 48 months or 1 one month.

Yes, a bank will require you to pay more. If you don't believe it, you might want to assume this $610 a month lease and see if you can turn a profit on it.

To Oblu's question, yes all automotive leases are closed ended now. The end of term options are spelled out in the contract these days. The banks will usually charge a disposition fee (about $300-$500) to cover their cost of running the car to auction.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottW911
Back when I was young and naive, I too wanted to get out early from my lease. I was at least a year into it when I learned the buyout was going to be higher than the original price. The lease contract is exactly that. You are agreeing to pay a specified amount to the bank, whether it it over 48 months or 1 one month.

Yes, a bank will require you to pay more. If you don't believe it, you might want to assume this $610 a month lease and see if you can turn a profit on it.

To Oblu's question, yes all automotive leases are closed ended now. The end of term options are spelled out in the contract these days. The banks will usually charge a disposition fee (about $300-$500) to cover their cost of running the car to auction.
Hmm, I always terminate early from my leases (5 to date) and I have never had to pay more than acquisition price. I usually go through Chase, and have done it for 3 BMWs and 2 MBs
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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if you really want to know what the payoff is just read the lease. it is usually pretty close to the sum of payments for the remainder of the lease term plus the residual value at the end of the lease, discounted by NPV to the termination date.

regardless of what it is though, it is in the document itself. the dealers turn around and sell the leases to a finance co or bank at a rate discounted a few points below the "value" of the lease. that value is what the finance co would tell you what the buyout is and it is in writing in the document.

incidentially i've had a dealer offer me a better deal if i trade in my lease. they can negotiate better deals with the finance co and may even be willing to take a bit of a hit if you are buying a new car.

still, going to be tough to get out of that lease without it hurting
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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lease term plus the residual value at the end of the lease, discounted by NPV to the termination date.
I agree, that makes sense. I wonder what hurdle rate they use.
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Originally Posted by c class boy
four year lease 2k down, 610 a month. 4 years. c 300 sport p1 option and tiptronic. really bad lease but i just had to have it. i got it on august 6th. first one. any ideas how i can get out of the lease i really regret it and it sucks now!!!
I see why you want to return it because $610 is too high....
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