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Old 08-16-2007, 11:13 AM
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335i competitor?

Does anyone know if MB is going to bring out a W204 to compete with the 335i? Meaning it having an engine producing ~300hp. Yes, there will be the C63 but we all know that's the M3 competitor. Maybe a supercharged/turbocharged version of the 350 or 300's engine? I know MB is working on turbocharged I-4 that's producing a lot of torque but not as much hp as the bimmers I-6.
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I doubt it

The 350 will say the way it is for a few years. It just came out, the 4matic 350 will be late next year it has 270bhp

you willh ave to wait till late 09+ for a new engine
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I hear MB will be upping the HP on the 3.5 CGI engine to the 300hp area. The next gen A4 (B8) is said to be bringing out a 3.0 with turbos putting out around 330hp as the mid-range A4 model. The 2.0T should be upping the HP to around 260 for the entry model.

So it'll be interesting in the next year or so to see what engines come out to compete with the 335i's TT I6 engine and output.
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I suspect that in a year or so they will put in a direction injection engine - which should up the power to about 300 hp.

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MB never competes in performance for regular car. MB has AMG line which competes nicely with BMW and others performance cars. For example C63 overperforms M3 which keeps 420Hp. So do not expect any 300hp from C350, choose luxury over performance.
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The new Mercedes V6 for the C350 will come from whatever MB shows next month at the Frankfurt auto show with the facelifted SLK. Current rumor puts it at 306hp. This will be for the 2009 model year in the U.S.

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The next gen A4 (B8) is said to be bringing out a 3.0 with turbos putting out around 330hp as the mid-range A4 model. The 2.0T should be upping the HP to around 260 for the entry model.
Huh? Where did you read this? Any link to the AudiWorld or Fourtitude "rumor"?
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'05 A4 1.8TQM6
Its actually said to be supercharged, my mistake.

This is the post from a well-known guy on AW:
http://forums.audiworld.com/a4gen2/msgs/1040834.phtml

I'll see if I can find more info..
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MB never competes in performance for regular car. MB has AMG line which competes nicely with BMW and others performance cars. For example C63 overperforms M3 which keeps 420Hp. So do not expect any 300hp from C350, choose luxury over performance.
This is not an accurate statement. MB has been uping the horsepower for years now...they just do it at the midlife facelift usually. BMW previously had the 325 and 330 which Mercedes one-uped them by making the 280 and 350 engines. Now BMW did the 328 and the 335, so it is Mercedes turn to do it again.

This is common throughout the Mercedes line...look at the S-Class engine. The S550 has more HP than any of its competitors. (A8, 750, Lexus LS, etc)
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Correct. MB isn't going to let BMW hold any hp advantage long.

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Thanks gentlemen, I have wrong impression about Benz. This forum is really valuable, because knowledgeable and smart people are here.
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Its actually said to be supercharged, my mistake.
That is really great news. And it will be coming out around the same time my lease is up. Thanks!

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i think its pretty reasonable for the C350 to hit 300hp in a yr or so.

just look at the 330i then 1 year later it became the 335i within the same new body.

330i was out for some time. so as the C350, 06-08 now. so...C3XX or C400? haha
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That is really great news. And it will be coming out around the same time my lease is up. Thanks!
Interesting news...Audi has sent a large number of surveys out asking consumers about engine options for the B8. There were 4 choices on the survey for choosing,

1. 2.0T with 210hp
2. 3.2 with 265hp
3. I4 diesel turbo with 175hp, 30/39 mpg ratings
4. Turbocharged V6 with 330hp

Could be a clue that they are going to release this turbocharged V6
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bringing back the 2.7t// twin turbo v6.. lets hope this one can be mor reliable
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'05 A4 1.8TQM6
I hear its not the 2.7T but a 3.0 V6 TT.
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hope its a better design than the last motor
250hp from a TT v6? weak ... i landed up replacing a total of 6 turbos or 3 sets.. it costs more to keep the car up then it was to make payments on it
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'05 A4 1.8TQM6
Most of the issues with the 2.7TT were early versions, small oil lines. They fixed that with larger oil lines for cooling the turbos. But you gotta admit, modding that engine gives you some nice outputs, even with a chip. Friend has a '01 A6 2.7T, ECU flash, putting out a little more than 300 hp/tq.
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