Winter is coming!! what Winter tire do u prefer?!which 1 is good for heavy snow?
11-09-2007, 01:01 PM
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'08 W204.081; M 272.948 KE30; Colour Code#792
225/45/17 will fit rim widths from 7.5" up to 9" (source: Tyre Bible). And the shrinkage in circumference for the rears (1%) won't skew the speedo / odo that much.
11-12-2007, 05:43 PM
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Sooo.... nobody can tell me if I can get away with 16" on my C350 Sport? The dealer wants to see me a set of AMG 17"... but I suspect it's because of the fat profit they will make. On TireRack, they say 16" are ok... but I am worried that the US and CAN specs are different.
11-12-2007, 07:37 PM
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went with Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D, 225/45-17 up front, 235/45-17 rear. ordered from tire rack, 833 usd taxes, duties, broker fee in to ship to Canada... great price.
as for using all seasons, you'll still get better traction in ice and snow with dedicated winter tires. With 4matic, you will get better traction off the line.. but steering and braking, you'll have the same dynamics as 2-wheel drive, so winter tires will make a difference.
as for using all seasons, you'll still get better traction in ice and snow with dedicated winter tires. With 4matic, you will get better traction off the line.. but steering and braking, you'll have the same dynamics as 2-wheel drive, so winter tires will make a difference.
11-12-2007, 08:11 PM
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Sooo.... nobody can tell me if I can get away with 16" on my C350 Sport? The dealer wants to see me a set of AMG 17"... but I suspect it's because of the fat profit they will make. On TireRack, they say 16" are ok... but I am worried that the US and CAN specs are different.
11-12-2007, 08:28 PM
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
16" wheels?
<<Sooo.... nobody can tell me if I can get away with 16" on my C350 Sport? The dealer wants to see me a set of AMG 17"... but I suspect it's because of the fat profit they will make. On TireRack, they say 16" are ok... but I am worried that the US and CAN specs are different.>>
The big question is whether the 16" wheel will fit over the brake discs or not. As an example, when I attempted to install my 15" wheels from my W202 onto my W203, they would not clear the front discs although the rears were OK. And of course the W203 wheels will not work on my C300 because of the of the big offset change.
The big question is whether the 16" wheel will fit over the brake discs or not. As an example, when I attempted to install my 15" wheels from my W202 onto my W203, they would not clear the front discs although the rears were OK. And of course the W203 wheels will not work on my C300 because of the of the big offset change.
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2011 E350 4Matic Wagon, 2013 C350 4Matic Sedan
The big question is whether the 16" wheel will fit over the brake discs or not. As an example, when I attempted to install my 15" wheels from my W202 onto my W203, they would not clear the front discs although the rears were OK. And of course the W203 wheels will not work on my C300 because of the of the big offset change.
I had the same (brake caliber clearance) problem with my IS300, so I know better than to just assume things will fit.
If someone has experience in getting 16" rims over the "upgraded brakes", then I would like to know... and what model rims.
Somebody... anybody... please!!!
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11-12-2007, 11:09 PM
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Tirerack actually test their fittings and will warn you if they think what you're buying from them won't work. Wouldn't hurt to confirm with their experts and ask what happens if there's a problem though.
11-13-2007, 10:46 AM
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went with Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D, 225/45-17 up front, 235/45-17 rear. ordered from tire rack, 833 usd taxes, duties, broker fee in to ship to Canada... great price.
as for using all seasons, you'll still get better traction in ice and snow with dedicated winter tires. With 4matic, you will get better traction off the line.. but steering and braking, you'll have the same dynamics as 2-wheel drive, so winter tires will make a difference.
as for using all seasons, you'll still get better traction in ice and snow with dedicated winter tires. With 4matic, you will get better traction off the line.. but steering and braking, you'll have the same dynamics as 2-wheel drive, so winter tires will make a difference.
11-13-2007, 11:06 AM
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11-13-2007, 07:38 PM
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After speaking with the rep, didn't want to risk 225's not fitting on the rears. I had a choice b/w 235 or 245 for the rear, but as a winter tire, wanted to keep the width as narrow as possible.. that and there's a bit of a larger price jump b/w 235 and 245...
11-14-2007, 10:21 AM
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i went with the 235's on the rear because the tire rack rep I was speaking with said that's the minimum width that would fit on the staggered 8.5" rear wheel..I'm planning on mounting onto the original rims that came with the car as opposed to getting dedicated winter rims... just leasing the car so want to minimize $$ thrown at it.
After speaking with the rep, didn't want to risk 225's not fitting on the rears. I had a choice b/w 235 or 245 for the rear, but as a winter tire, wanted to keep the width as narrow as possible.. that and there's a bit of a larger price jump b/w 235 and 245...
After speaking with the rep, didn't want to risk 225's not fitting on the rears. I had a choice b/w 235 or 245 for the rear, but as a winter tire, wanted to keep the width as narrow as possible.. that and there's a bit of a larger price jump b/w 235 and 245...
11-14-2007, 07:28 PM
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11-21-2007, 01:04 PM
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11-21-2007, 03:10 PM
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I put a set of 17'' OEM wheels and snow tires without the sensors, after two days the message light is on. Now I have to try to swap the sensors from my AMG 18'' wheels. Anyone know how?
11-21-2007, 04:24 PM
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11-21-2007, 10:15 PM
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
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<<bassmoxy;Just spoke to tirerack... they've recommended the same dunlop tires but 235/45/17 all around>>
Since the correct tire size is 225/45-17, this makes little sense.
Since the correct tire size is 225/45-17, this makes little sense.
11-21-2007, 10:26 PM
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
TP sensor light
<<I put a set of 17'' OEM wheels and snow tires without the sensors, after two days the message light is on. Now I have to try to swap the sensors from my AMG 18'' wheels. Anyone know how?>>
I know how but I wouldn't do it. Just press the OK button on the wheel and the warning will go away for a day or two. The sensor has been removed temporarily from my RF wheel and that's what I'm doing until I get around to having it replaced.
You certainly can remove the sensors from your OE wheels but you have to dismount the tires to do it, risking wheel damage, plus the cost of R&Ring and rebalancing. If this is really a problem you may as well buy an additional set of sensors ($$$) which can be bought at a discount.
I will be faced with this same situation soon when I mount winter tires on my OE wheels. I don't know whether I'll buy sensors or not due to Seattle's maybe-it-will, maybe-it-won't snow days.
I will be getting a price quote from Caliber Motors in Anaheim Hills CA which is usually about 40% under the local dealers.
I know how but I wouldn't do it. Just press the OK button on the wheel and the warning will go away for a day or two. The sensor has been removed temporarily from my RF wheel and that's what I'm doing until I get around to having it replaced.
You certainly can remove the sensors from your OE wheels but you have to dismount the tires to do it, risking wheel damage, plus the cost of R&Ring and rebalancing. If this is really a problem you may as well buy an additional set of sensors ($$$) which can be bought at a discount.
I will be faced with this same situation soon when I mount winter tires on my OE wheels. I don't know whether I'll buy sensors or not due to Seattle's maybe-it-will, maybe-it-won't snow days.
I will be getting a price quote from Caliber Motors in Anaheim Hills CA which is usually about 40% under the local dealers.
11-21-2007, 11:52 PM
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'08 W204.081; M 272.948 KE30; Colour Code#792
The sensors are rated to last about 8 years (battery life). IIRC, they're made by Beru AG (German company) and they supply Audi, BMW & MB. Sensors cost ~$200 total and would be worthwhile if you keep the car. Even if you don't keep the car, they can be removed from the wheel and swapped over to your next set of wheels (assuming the next car you have uses the same frequency).
11-22-2007, 12:17 AM
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
TP sensors
<<The sensors are rated to last about 8 years (battery life). IIRC, they're made by Beru AG (German company) and they supply Audi, BMW & MB.>>
I am holding in my hot little hand the TP sensor formerly in residence in my C300's RF tire. It is made by Schrader Electronics (you have heard of the Schrader valve, of course, invented in 1898) which is owned by a US company, Tomkins.
It doesn't use any of the parts shown in the Beru part picture except the valve stem and the sensor itself.
And, mine is so beat up from bouncing around inside the wheel for three weeks that most of the embossed numbers are unreadable although it is still functioning so I have to keep it away from the car so as to avoid a flat tire warning.
I am holding in my hot little hand the TP sensor formerly in residence in my C300's RF tire. It is made by Schrader Electronics (you have heard of the Schrader valve, of course, invented in 1898) which is owned by a US company, Tomkins.
It doesn't use any of the parts shown in the Beru part picture except the valve stem and the sensor itself.
And, mine is so beat up from bouncing around inside the wheel for three weeks that most of the embossed numbers are unreadable although it is still functioning so I have to keep it away from the car so as to avoid a flat tire warning.
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11-22-2007, 12:20 AM
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'08 W204.081; M 272.948 KE30; Colour Code#792
I stand corrected. Thanks for the info, RLE.
I wonder if the companies are related...
http://www.beru.com/english/produkte/tss.php
http://www.schraderelectronics.com/P...aspx?product=3
I wonder if the companies are related...
http://www.beru.com/english/produkte/tss.php
http://www.schraderelectronics.com/P...aspx?product=3
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