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Winter is coming!! what Winter tire do u prefer?!which 1 is good for heavy snow?

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Old 11-22-2007, 10:08 AM
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It would be interesting to hear what Mercedes-Benz Toronto recommends? Can you ask?

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MB Toronto recommends Pirelli SotoZero snowsports 225/45/17 all around. According to MB, these tires will work for both the front and rear staggered wheels. However, last night I found the same specs and ordered the Michelin Pilot PA2's for all 4 rims from Tirerack. $797.56 US including taxes/duties/ and freight to Toronto. $150.00 less than Pirelli's and rated better according to Tirerack's reviews.
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<<I put a set of 17'' OEM wheels and snow tires without the sensors, after two days the message light is on. Now I have to try to swap the sensors from my AMG 18'' wheels. Anyone know how?>>

I know how but I wouldn't do it. Just press the OK button on the wheel and the warning will go away for a day or two. The sensor has been removed temporarily from my RF wheel and that's what I'm doing until I get around to having it replaced.

You certainly can remove the sensors from your OE wheels but you have to dismount the tires to do it, risking wheel damage, plus the cost of R&Ring and rebalancing. If this is really a problem you may as well buy an additional set of sensors ($$$) which can be bought at a discount.

I will be faced with this same situation soon when I mount winter tires on my OE wheels. I don't know whether I'll buy sensors or not due to Seattle's maybe-it-will, maybe-it-won't snow days.

I will be getting a price quote from Caliber Motors in Anaheim Hills CA which is usually about 40% under the local dealers.
There is no way you can get the warning light out. It said no wheel pressure sensor. Doh!! I guess I just drive with the warning light on until summer when I put my 18'' back on.
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my C350 {4Matic} last day using a dealer stock all-season tire, just light snow, ....SPIN....so MUST install a snow tires for winter
Old 11-23-2007, 10:31 PM
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I'm going with Hankook W300 225/45/17. This is the same setup my friend used to have on his C32 and it fits fine w/o any problem. And the tires are the best bang for the buck, proven on many WRXs and STis.
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Today I read in the paper that the province of Quebec wants to make winter tires mandatory. They reported that almost 90% of Quebecers do have winter tires on their car.

One politician objected against the mandatory rule and I couldn't understand why. Then he went on to say that if you make it mandatory, people will drive with winter tires all year long and they are performing poorly in the summer and during rain storms.

Isn't it funny, every time somebody has, what seems to be an excellent idea, a smart guy comes along and thinks hard to circumvent the good original intention. Why can't people think that the lawmakers have their best interest at heart and try to avoid winter collisions.

I have my trunk full of aids during the winter months and I am very helpful when I see a motorist in trouble when they skid off the road. I get out and sometimes all they need is a push to get going.

When I see they have no winter tires on, I make a comment that winter tires would be useful. One man replied, his salesman told him he didn't need any winter tires. I told him to get his salesman to give him a push then and I went into my car and drove away. Smart a....

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I'm currently using Conti Winter Viking 3 in 205/55 16's with spikes, I thought they were pretty good until I drove a 3 series with Nokian Hakka's, wow, an excellent winter tyre for heavy snow and since they are spiked excellent for icy conditions, next season I'm getting the Hakka's.
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my C350 {4Matic} last day using a dealer stock all-season tire, just light snow, ....SPIN....so MUST install a snow tires for winter
Hmm... No problems for me. I had to induce the spin in the parking lot just to see what it would be like. Jabbed the throttle and was able to hang the tail out a little. As soon as I eased off the gas, the tail came back in-line. Maybe I will try for another storm and decide if it can wait until next year.
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Originally Posted by Jorg
Today I read in the paper that the province of Quebec wants to make winter tires mandatory. They reported that almost 90% of Quebecers do have winter tires on their car.

One politician objected against the mandatory rule and I couldn't understand why. Then he went on to say that if you make it mandatory, people will drive with winter tires all year long and they are performing poorly in the summer and during rain storms.

Isn't it funny, every time somebody has, what seems to be an excellent idea, a smart guy comes along and thinks hard to circumvent the good original intention. Why can't people think that the lawmakers have their best interest at heart and try to avoid winter collisions.


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Their is a very simple answer to that problem, you make it manditory to fit winter tyres from a certain date then make it manditory to fit summer tyres from another date, that's the way it's done here in Norway, Sweden and Finland. In Norway every car is sold with two sets of wheels and tyres.
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Today>> Wet Snow>> Stocks All Season Tires>> 90 Degree>> Spin Again -.-
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Today>> Wet Snow>> Stocks All season tires>> 90' angle>> Spin again -.-
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Dunlop Wintersport M3 is same as 3D ??
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Dunlop Wintersport M3 is same as 3D ??
Nope... the 3D is the newer model, although Dunlop still sells the M3 as well. I researched both last year for the Subaru and found better reviews for the 3D. No regrets here.

BTW, I drove in the rain/ice both yesterday and today. No problems at all. How far North of Toronto are you? I go as far as Steeles/404.

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anyone know where to source 17" alloys or steels for the W204?
tires are the easy part! you can find them anywhere with multiple brands

but i dunno about everyone else but i seem to have problems finding stock on such a rim (toronto/GTA area)
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Is the sensors for Canadian cars different than cars from US?

I've ordered a full set of winters mounted on alloys from Tirerack.com, got a call from them asking me why i didn't order sensors with my order, which they were charging $300. I haven't called them back yet.
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<<Are the sensors for Canadian cars different than cars from US? I've ordered a full set of winters mounted on alloys from Tirerack.com, got a call from them asking me why i didn't order sensors with my order, which they were charging $300. I haven't called them back yet.>>

The price of sensors is all over the place for the same units. My dealer wants about $90 each while Tire Rack quoted me $70 last week. So, I ordered a set from Caliber Motors for $59 each.

Your problem is that you have to buy from Tire Rack since the sensors are mounted before the tires, obviously. Where the $300 comes from is a question worth asking.
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RLE, since i'm in Canada, if the sensor is different, then i'd save the $ on not have to order it with from Tirerack.

Has anyone in Toronto area ordered from Tirerack and not have to order add'l sensors?
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Sensors in Canada?

<<Are the sensors for Canadian cars different than cars from US?>>

Wait a minute. Hasn't it been established that Canadian cars don't have wheel sensors? So said some post last week or so. Not required there?
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Yes RLE, I checked back at the other thread. So it looks like I'll save some $ on not having to buy sensors. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by RLE
<<Are the sensors for Canadian cars different than cars from US?>>

Wait a minute. Hasn't it been established that Canadian cars don't have wheel sensors? So said some post last week or so. Not required there?
hihi ! NO Tire Sensor in our Canadian W204 , different U.S cars , i founded out when change my snow tires o my car & asked a MB dealer !! save $$

(Tire Pressure Sensor is U.S Man idea) Insurance company & tires company bark together !! I HEARD story is talk about he said her tires bad quality got car accident, she said people everytime not keep check tire pressure make the accident, not her business, so court decision set a sensor on tires ,NO Argue for future.
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Nokian? Yes.

I have finally decided to buy Nokian WRs and found out today that there is a new model call the WR GXL which has an entirely different tread pattern and is about $11 more per tire.

I decided against the Blizzaks because I remember how loosey-goosey they felt on dry pavement on my C320 plus the compound change at 50% wear.

Tiresbyweb.com offers them at $188 each (225/45-17) and even with free shipping they are $136 more for four than Blizzaks but I think I'll buy them anyway.

Unless a local Nokian dealer can come close because mounting is always included in the price.
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Bought a set of 17" rims & Blizzaks from Tirerack, so far they perform great in the snow, can barely tell the difference in feel from all seasons to winters.
With a non-4matic, its holding up pretty good, mind you we only had one bad snow fall so far.


Took about a week to deliver from US to Toronto. Here's some pics.


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winter tires are now on.

last year in my W203 i used the blizzak tire but with the W204 and the 18"AMG wheel my previous tires would not fit.

got the dunlop wintersport 3D in an 18" same width all the way around and so far son good.

prior to this tire I could not even make it into the garage if snow was on the ground.

got tires from tirerack. had them shipped to the dealer. dealer installed and was out the door for 821.00

no issues with tire sensors or problems at all.

recommend this tire if you are still looking for a set.
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Pcb just curious if you bought the optional sensors? I have 18's AMG and I'm not sure if I should just buy 4 tires or buy tires and rims...
Are the sensors really mandatory?

Thanks
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Sonuske,

Dealership gave me the tire sensors. Don't know if that was an accident or not but I just drove out.

I don't know if they are required or not.

For me I wanted to keep the orginal 18" AMG wheels so did not buy new wheels with tires.
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C350 4Matic handling is perfect on dry & wet, of couse on snow, better than non 4Matic, coz my family have both models and i tried to high speed turning!
But in winter don't forget change ur snow tire drive safe Happy New Year


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