ANY LAWYERS HERE :C350 have we been sold a product misleading on information
11-12-2007, 03:41 PM
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I am not a lawyer, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. 
Seriously, can we get back to the issue at hand. How is the tunnel mode supposed to work? Why would you have the AC on and the windows and sunroof open? Please describe when and how it is supposed to work. Is this feature described in the owners manual? I'm not sure that we even know if it is a feature or not.
Seriously, can we get back to the issue at hand. How is the tunnel mode supposed to work? Why would you have the AC on and the windows and sunroof open? Please describe when and how it is supposed to work. Is this feature described in the owners manual? I'm not sure that we even know if it is a feature or not.
11-12-2007, 04:18 PM
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I am not a lawyer, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Seriously, can we get back to the issue at hand. How is the tunnel mode supposed to work? Why would you have the AC on and the windows and sunroof open? Please describe when and how it is supposed to work. Is this feature described in the owners manual? I'm not sure that we even know if it is a feature or not.
Seriously, can we get back to the issue at hand. How is the tunnel mode supposed to work? Why would you have the AC on and the windows and sunroof open? Please describe when and how it is supposed to work. Is this feature described in the owners manual? I'm not sure that we even know if it is a feature or not.
The whizbang part is this: when you later press and hold the same button, all the windows and sunroof return to their former positions. It's pretty cool.
11-15-2007, 07:56 PM
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I am a lawyer. You have no case against Mercedes / Daimler.
On the .001 percent chance that you would even get this case before a judge, you would likely be asked the following question: "Is the 'tunnel mode' feature that you saw in the marketing materials the sole reason you purchased this car?" My guess is that the answer is "No."
Let it go. You have a fantastic car, despite the omission of this feature. Don't let this taint your enjoyment of the car.
On the .001 percent chance that you would even get this case before a judge, you would likely be asked the following question: "Is the 'tunnel mode' feature that you saw in the marketing materials the sole reason you purchased this car?" My guess is that the answer is "No."
Let it go. You have a fantastic car, despite the omission of this feature. Don't let this taint your enjoyment of the car.
It might be bad advise to tell him to let it go.
11-15-2007, 08:33 PM
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You are right, what does this guy think we own a Nissan? When they said that the Z came with leather seats and it turned out that only the part that your butt sat on was leather not the entire seat, Nissan had to settle a large lawsuit.
It might be bad advise to tell him to let it go.
It might be bad advise to tell him to let it go.
11-15-2007, 08:36 PM
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11-18-2007, 03:45 PM
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I am not a lawyer, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Seriously, can we get back to the issue at hand. How is the tunnel mode supposed to work? Why would you have the AC on and the windows and sunroof open? Please describe when and how it is supposed to work. Is this feature described in the owners manual? I'm not sure that we even know if it is a feature or not.
Seriously, can we get back to the issue at hand. How is the tunnel mode supposed to work? Why would you have the AC on and the windows and sunroof open? Please describe when and how it is supposed to work. Is this feature described in the owners manual? I'm not sure that we even know if it is a feature or not.
One note: my friend at corp says that all the coponents need for this feature ARE still in the car and none were removed and is looking into why the features was de-activated before production. It can not be re-activated in DAS
11-18-2007, 03:48 PM
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I know someonr that works at MB Corp. My 08 C350 does not have tunnel mode. The website says it does and so does the lit. However you will not find anything in the owners manual.
One note: my friend at corp says that all the coponents need for this feature ARE still in the car and none were removed and is looking into why the features was de-activated before production. It can not be re-activated in DAS
One note: my friend at corp says that all the coponents need for this feature ARE still in the car and none were removed and is looking into why the features was de-activated before production. It can not be re-activated in DAS
that is not entirely true. Most dealers will need a code to activate this feature. But if you have access to the laptop the special techs have and/or someone with the neccessary password list it should be capable.
11-18-2007, 09:36 PM
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No longer car shopping...
I was not a member cause I never thought I get the car. But I probably know as much about mercedes here as any long term member. Plus I also had several contacts in germany to know about the car. All im saying is for everyone to open their eyes the websites has not change since i got the car. Still say tunnel mode. They are selling a product with no tunnel mode. Still it on the website for months. Well if it change why not update the website of mbusa. Next thing they might do is sell you a car with no radio. Cause of the subject to change line phrase . All I asked who wants to sue. So if thousands would agree to sue, so it just would not be a one man law sue. Bigger companys pay more attention to thousand than just one man sue. Look at Viox.. in the latest headline. Plus I still find it misleading by put something on the website.
that the car does not bring.
that the car does not bring.
heck, it only took me and my wife about 15 minutes of sitting in the car to realize that some of these important features were lacking in this $40K car. One of the pet peeves we have with our "top of the line" Highlander Hybrid is the lack of memory seats so the FIRST thing we looked for in this car was....missing? Salesman says "Take the C350 for a drive". We said..."No thanks". No lawsuit, no angst. Had I ordered it and learned that it didn't have memory seats, I would never had even taken possession so "Why did you"?
02-17-2008, 09:26 PM
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where are you lawyers from?
i live in california and with the consumer protection laws that exist here this would be a very viable issue and quite similar to the cases my firm banks off of.
i live in california and with the consumer protection laws that exist here this would be a very viable issue and quite similar to the cases my firm banks off of.
02-17-2008, 10:29 PM
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The arbitrary deletion of features without active notice is pretty shady IMO... There appears very little consumer protection in this area...
For example, it is not just the C350... my 2008 S600 which is actively marketed with "every option as standard" is also missing an extensively promoted feature/option (Parking Assist) even though that feature is even listed on my vehicles dealer inventory printout which was the basis on which I placed my order...
It does seem to me the onus should be on the manufacturer to point out at the time of sale that a specific feature is missing rather than the onus being on the customer to spot it is missing... (Hopefully your Tunnel Mode is there though - just hidden)
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For example, it is not just the C350... my 2008 S600 which is actively marketed with "every option as standard" is also missing an extensively promoted feature/option (Parking Assist) even though that feature is even listed on my vehicles dealer inventory printout which was the basis on which I placed my order...
It does seem to me the onus should be on the manufacturer to point out at the time of sale that a specific feature is missing rather than the onus being on the customer to spot it is missing... (Hopefully your Tunnel Mode is there though - just hidden)
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02-17-2008, 11:05 PM
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02-18-2008, 12:08 AM
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not splitting hairs dude, just stating some cold hard facts. in all honesty i believe that it's an abuse of the system but its the truth. consumer protection laws in california are so heavily construed in favor of the consuming public that you can almost literally bring a class action suit for anything.
02-18-2008, 10:50 PM
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I was wondering why on the mbusa when you click on mercedes c350. In interior features it say car comes with tunnel mode. I personaly have not been able to use tunnel mode. Other post mention it does not bring it. Has anyone found out about tunnel mode pressing the recicalition butten for 3 seconds while A/C on and open windows and sunroof close instanly. May i be wrong please let me have your feedback . I myself have tried this for days trying to find out, how to use tunnel mode.
02-19-2008, 08:28 AM
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I was wondering why on the mbusa when you click on mercedes c350. In interior features it say car comes with tunnel mode. I personaly have not been able to use tunnel mode. Other post mention it does not bring it. Has anyone found out about tunnel mode pressing the recicalition butten for 3 seconds while A/C on and open windows and sunroof close instanly. May i be wrong please let me have your feedback . I myself have tried this for days trying to find out, how to use tunnel mode.
02-19-2008, 09:18 AM
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Contract Law 101
Has anyone had the service rep or sales person/manager go through all of the features of the car on delivery, or do you go home and play?
I have never bought a new one, and if I don't find me a rich woman, I probably won't have a new one.(NO COMMENTERS)
BUT if I were to buy a new MB/car, I'd want to know how and what the features were, that I was paying the price to receive.
In other words compensation for value. Isn't that contract law 101?
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I have never bought a new one, and if I don't find me a rich woman, I probably won't have a new one.(NO COMMENTERS)
BUT if I were to buy a new MB/car, I'd want to know how and what the features were, that I was paying the price to receive.
In other words compensation for value. Isn't that contract law 101?
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02-19-2008, 09:39 AM
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This is interesting. I had the remote windows and sunroof feature on my Passat activated by a device sold to me for $50 by ECS Tuning. I plugged it into my OBD II port for 60 seconds and had the feature.
02-19-2008, 11:50 AM
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Interesting. If I'm reading this right, some US based folks have it and some don't? Or is it just no US C class have it? Wondering if this is like the turn down mirror thing, where MB doesn't tell you that they've removed the option (only in the US)?
Is there anyplace where all the enabled/disabled options/features by region are posted? I'm down to making a decision between an '08 E and an Infinity M and would like to really know what I am and am not in for. So far it's been difficult to really know. Haven't experienced this "elimination of advertised features" with any other manufacturer so I only need it for the MB. Didn't used to be this way with MB.
Is there anyplace where all the enabled/disabled options/features by region are posted? I'm down to making a decision between an '08 E and an Infinity M and would like to really know what I am and am not in for. So far it's been difficult to really know. Haven't experienced this "elimination of advertised features" with any other manufacturer so I only need it for the MB. Didn't used to be this way with MB.
