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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 02:34 AM
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by angeloxnet
this so called dynamic handling
is it jsut a new "sport" button
versus C and S? or is it actually different?
no, this is not the C and S that you would find next to your shifter. This is actually called "advanced agility package" that changes and tightens suspensions for better handling, not just changing shift timing. Its been available to Euro market since w204 introduction, nothing new. Except only to us.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by webada
no, this is not the C and S that you would find next to your shifter. This is actually called "advanced agility package" that changes and tightens suspensions for better handling, not just changing shift timing. Its been available to Euro market since w204 introduction, nothing new. Except only to us.
+1. Called Advanced Agility Package in Europe. Variable damper rate according to road condition and quicker shifting.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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155, can you post the pdf file?
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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155, can you post the pdf file?
Yes PLEASE do so...
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:10 AM
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Okay so I talked to an MB rep that just got out of a training/meeting about the future cars...

The 2009 C-Class will be the same as it is now. The 2009.5 (second series) will have two changes.

#1 - It will include Memory Seats (Im sure its an addition option thought)
#2 - Configuring the Steering wheel will be powered instead of manual.

-- I asked about keyless go, shift paddlers, and etc and his response was that they don't want to add too many options because it start cutting into the other models like the E class and even the C63 will be impacted as well.

this is according to him...I dont know how true it is but it sounds pretty understandable...

So do you think its a good Idea to get the C-Class this year?
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 05:12 AM
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So do you think its a good Idea to get the C-Class this year?
wait big facelift of W204 like me

itis joke but if they do not change inside quality of C I will not buy
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by aramikgh
Okay so I talked to an MB rep that just got out of a training/meeting about the future cars...

The 2009 C-Class will be the same as it is now. The 2009.5 (second series) will have two changes.

#1 - It will include Memory Seats (Im sure its an addition option thought)
#2 - Configuring the Steering wheel will be powered instead of manual.

-- I asked about keyless go, shift paddlers, and etc and his response was that they don't want to add too many options because it start cutting into the other models like the E class and even the C63 will be impacted as well.

this is according to him...I dont know how true it is but it sounds pretty understandable...

So do you think its a good Idea to get the C-Class this year?
So US specs will stay behind Canada?
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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so now you won't be able to get memory seats until the 2009.5?

I'm headed to the Infiniti dealer this weekend I guess, I just can't keep waiting for MB to get their act together.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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So US specs will stay behind Canada?

Yes. Absolutely.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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Yes. Absolutely.
Yes. Absolutely

Canada will stay behind Europe
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Yes Europe > Canada > US

And Yes 1st Class > 2nd Class > 3rd Class
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Yes Europe > Canada > US

And Yes 1st Class > 2nd Class > 3rd Class
not exactly

heard that MB produce ML class in US . if you are right features of ML class first of all should give to US in that way change your line 180 degree
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by aramikgh
Okay so I talked to an MB rep that just got out of a training/meeting about the future cars...

The 2009 C-Class will be the same as it is now. The 2009.5 (second series) will have two changes.

#1 - It will include Memory Seats (Im sure its an addition option thought)
#2 - Configuring the Steering wheel will be powered instead of manual.

-- I asked about keyless go, shift paddlers, and etc and his response was that they don't want to add too many options because it start cutting into the other models like the E class and even the C63 will be impacted as well.

this is according to him...I dont know how true it is but it sounds pretty understandable...

So do you think its a good Idea to get the C-Class this year?
This is absolutely absurd. I can spend half that and get memory/power seats from anyone else. Guess I truly may end up getting the BMW 328xi coupe that I've been dreaming of... I really thought MB had a competition for my next vehicle, but I suppose that dream is fading. Bring on those 2009.5 changes in 2009 and we'll talk MB!

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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ismeto
not exactly

heard that MB produce ML class in US . if you are right features of ML class first of all should give to US in that way change your line 180 degree
Nope. Not true at all. It makes no difference where the vehicle is actually built. Only where it is sold.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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i think the dealer told me that the ML and GL are built in the US because there isn't a big demand for them in Europe, and they are using the Chrysler wheelbase. So it is cheaper to built them in the US. As far as C Class is concern
they said they are all built in Germany
at least all the cars to Canada is from Germany
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Is the C is built in Germany....
Anyone knows what is going to be the impact in price because the exchange rate EUR/USD for 2009 C-class?
Is Mercedes going to stick the actual price level?

Yesterday was 1.60 USD/EURO, is dramatically higher compared versus previous year, so may I think may cars will get more expensive (those from Europe).

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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ismeto
not exactly

heard that MB produce ML class in US . if you are right features of ML class first of all should give to US in that way change your line 180 degree
Of course that is in relation to C Class only...

Whether C or ML Canadians are no better or worse than 2nd.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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<<I think the dealer told me that the ML and GL are built in the US because there isn't a big demand for them in Europe, and they are using the Chrysler wheelbase. So it is cheaper to built them in the US. As far as C Class is concern they said they are all built in Germany, at least all the cars to Canada is from Germany>>

Your salesman (he is not "the dealer") better get up to speed.

MLs and GLs are built here because it is cheaper than building them in Europe. And that is why BMW, Toyota, Honda etc. have plants here for the US market.

ML, GL and G classes for Europe (and other places) are built by Steyr in Graz, Austria and always have been.

And, the C-Class plants for which countries have already been discussed at great length.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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If the proposed 2009 changes are true, I might have to look somewhere else. I really would like 300 HP + manual transmission. The new M3 looks tempting.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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wow..

can u share that PDF???

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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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i talked to a rep from benz directly not form a dealer and they said that my 2009 which is going to be built in june will have memory seats......




Originally Posted by aramikgh
Okay so I talked to an MB rep that just got out of a training/meeting about the future cars...

The 2009 C-Class will be the same as it is now. The 2009.5 (second series) will have two changes.

#1 - It will include Memory Seats (Im sure its an addition option thought)
#2 - Configuring the Steering wheel will be powered instead of manual.

-- I asked about keyless go, shift paddlers, and etc and his response was that they don't want to add too many options because it start cutting into the other models like the E class and even the C63 will be impacted as well.

this is according to him...I dont know how true it is but it sounds pretty understandable...

So do you think its a good Idea to get the C-Class this year?
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ismeto
not exactly

heard that MB produce ML class in US . if you are right features of ML class first of all should give to US in that way change your line 180 degree
er.... ML was created for US market, nobody else in the world drives so many SUVs like we do.... yes, we are 3rd class citizens to MB or rather MBUSA are just bunch of egotistic old farts.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RLE
<<I think the dealer told me that the ML and GL are built in the US because there isn't a big demand for them in Europe, and they are using the Chrysler wheelbase. So it is cheaper to built them in the US. As far as C Class is concern they said they are all built in Germany, at least all the cars to Canada is from Germany>>

Your salesman (he is not "the dealer") better get up to speed.

MLs and GLs are built here because it is cheaper than building them in Europe. And that is why BMW, Toyota, Honda etc. have plants here for the US market.

ML, GL and G classes for Europe (and other places) are built by Steyr in Graz, Austria and always have been.

And, the C-Class plants for which countries have already been discussed at great length.

er... it is not cheaper to build per say, its the volume that drives the decision to build a plant here. When the sales volume reaches certain amount locally, then it becomes more sense to have the plant that will be dedicated to built that particular model line.... avoid tariff, tax breaks, local state incentive... etc.

but it does not make sense for car company who doesn't sell enough of the models to have a plant here.... and it would still be cheaper to port them in.
Hyundai is a perfect example of that. It wasn't until Finbarr's 10yrs warranty in '99 that put hyundai on the map did hyundai finally puts a plant out in US 4 yrs later.

and same can be said for the japanese back in the 80s-90s. and all of them sold and build cheaper cars before having a plant in US.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rs1985
i think the dealer told me that the ML and GL are built in the US because there isn't a big demand for them in Europe, and they are using the Chrysler wheelbase. So it is cheaper to built them in the US. As far as C Class is concern
they said they are all built in Germany
at least all the cars to Canada is from Germany
nah... SA plants are starting to build the left-side drive c-class since w204. The only guarantee that you will not get a SA build is to order a 4matic.... that is until they start putting the 4matic assembly line there...

EDIT: oh, i believe also the CDIs are only made in germany... anyone can confirm that?
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