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07-21-2008, 12:23 AM
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The clutch doesn't (or hasn't, as far as I can tell thus far) soften up, but I think it's pretty soft to begin with. It's a trip when I go back to driving my other car ever so often.
I agree with Derspeed; I can't believe M-B is calling this a short shifter. Not that it's bad now, but I like it super short. Miata knobs?
Short shifter kit?
Auto trans is supposed to get better mileage, but I've been getting some awesome mileage numbers by adopting a few strange driving techniques. Better than the official numbers for sure. Not often though... my right foot has a mind of its own.
I agree with Derspeed; I can't believe M-B is calling this a short shifter. Not that it's bad now, but I like it super short. Miata knobs?
Short shifter kit?Auto trans is supposed to get better mileage, but I've been getting some awesome mileage numbers by adopting a few strange driving techniques. Better than the official numbers for sure. Not often though... my right foot has a mind of its own.
09-05-2008, 01:16 PM
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Engines are different between manual and automatic??? You seriously can't use e85 on a 6-speed? Doesn't make any sense.
09-05-2008, 02:12 PM
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For manual transmission, there is not much coordination between engine and transmission as it's done by the driver.
i mean shifter.
09-05-2008, 07:35 PM
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When I say less fuel, I am talking about real world consumption, not EPA ratings.
Most drivers of manual cars meet or exceed the EPA mileage figures. Most drivers of automatic cars get less than the EPA rating.
Various testers (including Consumer Reports) have verified identical cars with manual transmissions get better mileage, and have better performance, than their counterparts with automatics.
More gears help the automatics, but not enough to offset the losses from the torque converter.
Most drivers of manual cars meet or exceed the EPA mileage figures. Most drivers of automatic cars get less than the EPA rating.
Various testers (including Consumer Reports) have verified identical cars with manual transmissions get better mileage, and have better performance, than their counterparts with automatics.
More gears help the automatics, but not enough to offset the losses from the torque converter.
09-05-2008, 08:47 PM
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When I say less fuel, I am talking about real world consumption, not EPA ratings.
Most drivers of manual cars meet or exceed the EPA mileage figures. Most drivers of automatic cars get less than the EPA rating.
Various testers (including Consumer Reports) have verified identical cars with manual transmissions get better mileage, and have better performance, than their counterparts with automatics.
More gears help the automatics, but not enough to offset the losses from the torque converter.
Most drivers of manual cars meet or exceed the EPA mileage figures. Most drivers of automatic cars get less than the EPA rating.
Various testers (including Consumer Reports) have verified identical cars with manual transmissions get better mileage, and have better performance, than their counterparts with automatics.
More gears help the automatics, but not enough to offset the losses from the torque converter.
i love manual though, but MB does not offer manual in my country :/
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09-06-2008, 01:37 AM
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09-06-2008, 05:48 AM
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I didn't even know it came in a stick till I read this thread...
I would guess a manual Merc would be hard to sell and doing hill starts should be a pain in the back side due to the Merc Hand Brake... However I could be wrong though...
I would guess a manual Merc would be hard to sell and doing hill starts should be a pain in the back side due to the Merc Hand Brake... However I could be wrong though...
09-06-2008, 01:52 PM
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This prospect did cross my mind when I was purchasing, but in the end, I decided to buy what I want right now, instead of what I may want in the future. 6 MT all the way.
Not a concern. The MB Hill-Assist feature works quite well. When the car senses an incline, the system momentarily holds the brake--more than plenty time for my right foot to move from brake to accelerator.
RE: MPG concerns and such, though I agree that the automatics of today have vastly improved from the gas-hoggers of yore, no machine can beat a human brain in terms of modulating gas usage. When I really want/need to save gas (running on empty?), I've gotten up to 23+ MPG local city-driving, and ~35+ MPG highway. I believe that is well beyond what EPA says this car gets. The only problem is that I normally get somewhere around 15~16 MPG, thanks to my lead foot.
The pattern:
MPG 
?!?!?! 
RE: MPG concerns and such, though I agree that the automatics of today have vastly improved from the gas-hoggers of yore, no machine can beat a human brain in terms of modulating gas usage. When I really want/need to save gas (running on empty?), I've gotten up to 23+ MPG local city-driving, and ~35+ MPG highway. I believe that is well beyond what EPA says this car gets. The only problem is that I normally get somewhere around 15~16 MPG, thanks to my lead foot.
The pattern:
MPG ?!?!?!
