Differences between 2008 and 2009 models ????
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I got my 09 C350 in Sept, it has the "big" mirrors and is very noisy, extremely loud. If the 09 is quieter I wouldn't be able to drive an 08. Is my car basically a late year "08" model mercedes calls an "09"? Is there anything I can do to get mercedes to make this car quieter????
With every level up they seem to put alot of effort into sound deadening, and insulation, etc.
Also, I think M-B makes the changes by the MY, not by the build date?
If you have the new Instrument Cluster, I'd say you definitely have a full blown '09.
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If you open the left and right trim panels in the boot compartment, where the first aid kit and fuse box are located, you can see those bare metals. If you lift the boot compartment floor, you can also see that all metal surfaces next to the spare wheel are all bare. This the the source of cabin noise. The BMW 5-series had most of the metal surface covered with damping materials. I don't think the wing mirrors are the source, as I notice most noises come from behind.
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probably 09 is more expensive !
I do not understand miror noisy technically I use 05 CL203 and even high speed I did not notify noisy from mirrors .
09 mirrors are part of Blueefficiecy Models's Aerodynamics Design including and coming with front and rear apron new design if you think replacing only mirrors to your cars they may not give you positive result
I do not understand miror noisy technically I use 05 CL203 and even high speed I did not notify noisy from mirrors .
09 mirrors are part of Blueefficiecy Models's Aerodynamics Design including and coming with front and rear apron new design if you think replacing only mirrors to your cars they may not give you positive result
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No, I have only driver an 08 twice (dealer test drives) at low-moderate speeds. And I thought it was quiet enough that I had no qualms about ordering an 09 C350 for European delivery. When I picked up the car I asked the delivery technician to walk me through as many of the changes between 08 and 09s as he could recall. The NVH thing was about the third item he described and cited it was part of ongoing NVH improvements and partially in response to owner critiques.
I was pleasantly surprised that it was significantly quieter and more composed than I could recall from my test rides.
I was pleasantly surprised that it was significantly quieter and more composed than I could recall from my test rides.
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However, the side mirror noise is very distinct and only becomes apparent when you are driving +70mph over a long period of time. Some people don't notice until you point them out, depending on their driving experience. Coming from a bmw 528, it is very apparent and annoying.
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2015 Carrara White Metallic Porsche Cayman
They usually have a set Euro Delivery MSRP, which is a couple thousand or so lower than traditional MSRP...then you negotiate from that.
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2009 C350W on EDP
7% Discount and....
Another plus is that the pricing for the delivery trip offered by MB Germany is subsidized by MB and offered at substantial discount. The current Black Forest/Alps Rally trip is just $1300 per couple and includes 5 nights at luxury (5 star) properties, all breakfasts, and a couple of 5 course dinners (wine included). If you apply to the regional chamber of commerce you may also qualify for a buy one, get one free, coach air fare deal.
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2008 W204
1. Power steering wheel adjuster with auto retract/lower feature.
2. Three position memory for drivers's seat, outside mirrors and steering wheel adjuster settings.
3. Subtle change to grey portion of Grey/Black interior.
4. Tan interior as used in Luxury model now available in Sport Model.
5. Burl Walnut wood trim available in 300 Sport, NC option in 350 Sport.
6. All season tires available with 18" AMG wheels in lieu of summer performance tires.
7. Noise, vibration, harshness improvements (quieter).
8. 2 GB increase in hard disk space allocated for music ripping in MM package.
9. Refined auto transmission responsiveness (less lag demand down-shift).
10. Added red LED compass display to inside rear view mirror.
The much quieter interior was really noticed during my European Delivery trip when crusing sections of the Autobahn at 110 MPH.
2. Three position memory for drivers's seat, outside mirrors and steering wheel adjuster settings.
3. Subtle change to grey portion of Grey/Black interior.
4. Tan interior as used in Luxury model now available in Sport Model.
5. Burl Walnut wood trim available in 300 Sport, NC option in 350 Sport.
6. All season tires available with 18" AMG wheels in lieu of summer performance tires.
7. Noise, vibration, harshness improvements (quieter).
8. 2 GB increase in hard disk space allocated for music ripping in MM package.
9. Refined auto transmission responsiveness (less lag demand down-shift).
10. Added red LED compass display to inside rear view mirror.
The much quieter interior was really noticed during my European Delivery trip when crusing sections of the Autobahn at 110 MPH.
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2009 C350W on EDP
It is subtle....
The "New" Grey/Black Tex interior is a very subtle change indeed. I was alble to compare my 2009 (after EDP shipment to US) with a 2008 and I would say the new grey is slightly lighter than the former shade.
Here is a picture I took in Germany; note the loaner windshield mount GPS wiring.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...gen-c350w.html
Here is a picture I took in Germany; note the loaner windshield mount GPS wiring.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...gen-c350w.html
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2009 C350W on EDP
A bunch of minor items that add up...
The delivery technician said the NVH improvements were the results from an ongoing program to further refine and improve the sound and vibration.
As I recall a few of the items mentioned were: 1) shipping more vehicles with quieter OEM tires (Michelin vs Conti), 2) underside bodypan/fairing isolation and sealing, 3) minor door seal installation and alignment procedures, 4) and airflow over side mirror mounting arms.
The cumulative effect of these, any probably a bunch of tiny tweaks, is a signficant improvement to a very high standard of quiet and composure. Subjectively, the car sounds as quiet and composed at 110 MPH as it does at 60 MPH. Engine is very subdued, low wind noise, quiet suspension on smooth road surfaces, OEM Michelin Pilot Hx nicely subdued; overall, a great background environment for the MM HK Logic 7 to do its thing.
As I recall a few of the items mentioned were: 1) shipping more vehicles with quieter OEM tires (Michelin vs Conti), 2) underside bodypan/fairing isolation and sealing, 3) minor door seal installation and alignment procedures, 4) and airflow over side mirror mounting arms.
The cumulative effect of these, any probably a bunch of tiny tweaks, is a signficant improvement to a very high standard of quiet and composure. Subjectively, the car sounds as quiet and composed at 110 MPH as it does at 60 MPH. Engine is very subdued, low wind noise, quiet suspension on smooth road surfaces, OEM Michelin Pilot Hx nicely subdued; overall, a great background environment for the MM HK Logic 7 to do its thing.
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528i, GLK
4) and airflow over side mirror mounting arms.
The cumulative effect of these, any probably a bunch of tiny tweaks, is a signficant improvement to a very high standard of quiet and composure. Subjectively, the car sounds as quiet and composed at 110 MPH as it does at 60 MPH. Engine is very subdued, low wind noise, quiet suspension on smooth road surfaces, OEM Michelin Pilot Hx nicely subdued; overall, a great background environment for the MM HK Logic 7 to do its thing.
The cumulative effect of these, any probably a bunch of tiny tweaks, is a signficant improvement to a very high standard of quiet and composure. Subjectively, the car sounds as quiet and composed at 110 MPH as it does at 60 MPH. Engine is very subdued, low wind noise, quiet suspension on smooth road surfaces, OEM Michelin Pilot Hx nicely subdued; overall, a great background environment for the MM HK Logic 7 to do its thing.
I notice the GLK has the new winged side mirror as well. Are the NA cars just getting the production leftovers? :-)
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2009 C350W on EDP
Check with Boblingen, Wurttenburg and Munich
I could not quallify back in September 08 because I did not stay long enough in any particular region. BMW as offering a 2 for 1 on Lufthansa, but the base ticket price was inflated so that the savings were not better than ordinary advance ticket purchase pricing.
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'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Beige
The beige interior, newly offered in the Sport models is different than the '08 version (C300 only) in that the dashtop and steering wheel no longer match the rest of the interior but are a darker beige, almost brown.
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Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Interesting. I wonder if they're doing that with all new M-B's. Do you have a pic? Dye-Cut means that the words are alone without a background correct?
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You mean Side-Airbags? I thought all M-B's had pelvis-side airbags way prior to '08.... Or do you mean they changed the design/built them in the seats on the new ones.
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Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Ah. Wow, nice, I didn't know about that. I'm sure it's an addition to all '09+ M-B's, another M-B revolutionary safety feature.
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Very good upgrade from MB. I worked in a trauma center for a couple years and side impacts can be extremely damaging to hips/pelvis as they are just about bumper level....
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That will work for low impact, where a lot of injuries do occur from movement and impact with the door and interior moulding.
