jicl55

Well.... I was one of those "drivers of low standards" who used it with the coiled cord for some time and still would be if my nav didn't go out which finally encouraged me to get my whole system updated and get the wiring concealed along with it.... bottom line is that its not something you buy for aesthetics..... if it looks ugly but works the best for the functional purpose it was intended for...... I'll be ugly and radar resistant..... I'm just fine with that.

german-anger

werd. as long as its plugged in and on and positioned well I'm happy haha. (with my current radar.. hope to have a V1 soon..)

jicl55

Valentine is good, but if you want laser protection, it's not your answer.... your better off putting the $400 toward a laser diffuser or jammer..... not sure what's the best right now... found this tho, kinda interesting : http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-200...mmer-test.html

whkento

Great links, thanks.

Maybe a fruitless question, but... Does anyone know what types of radar / laser detection are in use in Japan? They have those <insert expletive here> cameras all over the highways and on the streets in cities. They seldom have officers monitoring speed anywhere. I would like to figure out the best 'countermeasures' system for use over here. btw, the Veil looks like a good starting point, along with whatever radar / laser detector would be useful over here.

Thanks in advance for any input.

Oh, yeah, by the way, they actually use the license plate OCR over here to identify individual cars on the roads here and track where they go. They've used it to nail some road racers.

german-anger

tight! that was a good test...

"The Laser Interceptor was an average of 96% effective against laser guns used in the USA."

Sounds like Laser Interceptor is going to be my purchase ;P

german-anger

listen to this guy tho. he claims to present a CONSUMER ALERT on the laser interceptor... and the tests on guysoflidar...
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6976960tZysyt5R
thoughts??

german-anger

laserjammertests.com is the site the guy who did the consumer alert and the LASER INTERCEPTOR is:

[OLD REVIEW] The "LI" retail version didn't perform as advertised. The Laser Star, Anti-laser, and Laser Pro park perform better then this jammer. You can read the detailed review and watch the test videos by clicking the laser interceptor tabs above. Laser Interceptor had a "prototype" tested by the Gol. After the "prototype" was tested and given rave reviews, Laser Interceptor changed the retail version and cut out 50% of the transmitting diodes. In effect, laser interceptor's TRUE performance was cut by that much too. It's a sad case. Many people were scammed by this company. Most don't even realize it yet. Carry a pen in your car. You're going to need it when the officer makes you sign a speeding ticket.

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They claim the best jammer is one called Laser Star

jicl55

good find buddy.... sounds shady... I would never do a wire transfer for something like that if that is the only way to purchase..... you always have to be critical of these "independent tests" because you often never know who does them and what their motivations are and who is actually paying for these tests.... on that note... wonder who this guy is and what his motivation is for "whistle blowing".... basically you need to do your homework, which you are doing and take in all sources and take everything with a grain of salt..... if I was going to get one, I would get the Escort.... name brand and was recommended to me by a pretty reputable shop and I've seen them in many different cars..... With install on my car though, they told me like $1100 and I would recommend professional installation on something like this (at least I wouldn't know what I'm doing).... just my thoughts.

suicidal4life

Laserjammertests sells Laser Star brand jammers. Their tests are not reputable and they are also known for spamming many different forums under many different names. If you got to radardetector.net you will see dozens of independent tests by average people like you and me and the Laser Interceptor is hands down the best performing jammer. L* performance has been shown many times to not be anywhere near as good as laserjammertests claims. If you actually look a bit closer at laserjammertests own website you will see that they have now changed their opinion of the laser interceptor (although they still rate it lower then it should be) and now consider it a "JA-3" approved jammer.

Heres a link to laserjammertests recent laser interceptor test.
http://www.laserjammertests.com/blog...ntryid=3683794

german-anger

interesting point, yeah I noticed Laser Interceptor was on the radarjammertests.com 'best of' list. But isn't the L* stuff on video on that site?? Isn't that hard to fake? Then again their unit they tested (if they in fact sell it) might be a non-production unit/ something that was beefed up. Wow I learned a lot from doing a little fishing around on the net :P

Robbio204

Ive heard many swear by the V1, but reading about this LIDAR and Jammers, what should I get? Can someone explain? Does the V1 not detect Lidar?

tchockie

yea.. there was a time when V1 was champ. and for radar, it really is. like when i used to drive georgia country roads, the V1 picked up radars remarkably long before the troopers were in sight. i'm talking about around hilly corners. amazing. saved me a hundred tickets.

and then, one day, i got hit with laser. alarm rang, and i saw the cop. of course, by the time i heard the beeping of the v1, he had my speed. fortunately, guy didn't show up for the court date and the ticket was dismissed!

but yea, these guys are right. v1 is only an alert to tell you that you got caught with laser. no warning like radar. and the speed is clocked way more quickly and efficiently because of the concentrated beam of the laser compared with the huge wavelengths of radar radio waves that tend to scatter and spread like a flood light. this scattering of radar waves is what allows our v1s to detect them so quickly from so far away. laser, no scatter.

so basically, the jammers work by sending a light signal back to the laser source, making it confused and causing more errors instead of being able to get your speed. similarly, our v1s give false laser alerts when it detects certain lights of certain wavelengths (like the some of the old GMC 3rd brake lights... directly in front of you... in a 1 lane highway... braking at every corner... anyways i digress...)

there is also anti-reflective protection out there. i haven't used this myself, but i have some friends who did invest in anti-reflective coating such as VEIL. in fact, i've heard really good things about veil. it's basically makes the applied areas less reflective (i guess similar to anti-glare coating?), specifically applied to the license plate and headlights. those 2 areas are the most reflective parts of the front of your car, and the police usually aim for your front plates first (another reason more and more states are pushing front license plates as many agencies are moving from radar to laser) and then your headlights if they can't get a read, since headlights have like hundreds of crazy different reflective surfaces for the light to bounce back. by having an anti-reflective, it doesn't make your car immune to laser, but it does make it harder for the laser to get your speed. so if you were to have a combo of these things, like a V1 and anti-reflective, the v1 would still alert you when the laser hits your car, but since the range is reduced from the coating, it might give you more time to slow down and avoid the ticket. even without a jammer, in theory, this might be something that could make a huge difference. might be something worth checking out. i remember reading some independent tests using VEIL and jammers a couple years back somewhere...


but then, i don't always know what i'm talking about.

Robbio204

okay i get it thanks

german-anger

I heard the laser VEIL is a bit messy when you apply it? and like you can see the brush marks and it tints slightly blueish (eg. clear part of the headlights) :P

RLE

Last I heard, radar detectors are illegal in BC. I don't bother to remove my V1 when I'm in Vancouver, but........

BTW, radio frequencies and unlicensed transmitters is Federal law, not state. It's an FCC matter.

dlbello

Well looks like after going full circle, the "Laser Interceptor" is the absolute way to go... Was someone talking about a group buy a few days ago?

And why does this post keep getting pulled?

german-anger

I live in BC. Detectors are legal I've driven beside endless cops. One even went so far as to flick their radar gun on and off endlessly beside me to try to **** me off, I just turned my music up for the officer to enjoy amidst the BEEPP BRAAAAAAT BEEP BRAATTTTT symphony.

I ended up getting an Escort 8500 X50. Just cause I got a hell of a steal for it. So far no speeding tickets. Laser jammer will be my next investment. I remember a wireless one, that has the two nodes wirelessly connected to a central control unit so you don't have lots of messy cords running everywhere or need to do a comprehensive install.

I gotta look for it...

Robbio204

yeah def follow up with the forums on your choice....