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Old 03-05-2009, 07:51 PM
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2010 C350 with the new engine (292hp) ???

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is there any indication that 2010 C350 will come with the new engine 3.5 V6 292hp (like the new 2010 E350 Coupe)?

I am ready to buy now but I can wait 4-5 months for the better engine.

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Hmm...I wonder. not a bad idea....Maybe finally to be closer to the 335's level...btw im pretty sure they did the same for the SLK. You would probably be waiting more than 4 months too....
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well, they've used the same engines in the C and E in the past, so you might expect to see it
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wait for direct injection.
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Originally Posted by nyca
wait for direct injection.
uuhhh... i don't think anybody uses carborators (sp?) anymore...
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Originally Posted by nyca
wait for direct injection.
The new engine has direct injection=292hp...and better milage!
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Originally Posted by xsi123
Hello,

is there any indication that 2010 C350 will come with the new engine 3.5 V6 292hp (like the new 2010 E350 Coupe)?

I am ready to buy now but I can wait 4-5 months for the better engine.

Thanks
There is NO indication anywhere. The German and UK magazines that have recently published articles on the new E have said nothing regarding new engines for the US market, at the moment.

Plus, the new E-Class, just out, still has the old engines.
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I read that Mercedes is not offering its Direct Injection engines in the new 2010 E350 due to the high-sulphur-content in the US gas (see article below.)

If Mercedes keeps the 268hp 3.5L V6 in the upcoming 2010 E350, I guess there is a big chance that it will keep the same engine in the 2010 C350. Just my guess...

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2010 Mercedes-Benz E-Class not shown at the Detroit auto show:

Get used to seeing, hearing and reading about the redesigned 2010 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, but don’t look for it at the Detroit Auto Show . Even though Mercedes chose to “reveal” the car in Detroit (and to publicly release photographs of the car and information about it), the viewing was limited to invited guests from the global automotive media community. The car will not be on display at the Detroit show.

The general public will get its first look at the car at the Geneva motor show in March, presumably followed by a U.S. show debut at New York in April. The 2010 E-Class goes on sale in the United States this summer.

U.S. models come equipped with two carryover engines, the E350 with a 268-hp, 258-lb-ft V6, and the E550 with a 382-hp, 391-lb-ft V8. Mercedes says all-wheel-drive 4MATIC models and the high-performance E63 AMG won’t be available at launch, but should be on sale later in the year, followed by the 50-state-legal E350 BlueTEC diesel in early 2010. New direct-injection gasoline engines available in Europe won’t be offered in the United States, mostly due to incompatibility with high-sulphur-content unleaded gasoline here, but Mercedes hopes to offer the engines in the future.

Styling is noticeably different, drawing on the design previewed in the Concept Fascination show car revealed at the Paris motor show last fall. The design features twin rectangular headlamps, and a rear wheel arch treatment that Mercedes says echoes a styling cue from the famous “Ponton Mercedes” introduced in 1953.

A column-mounted shifter, COMAND controller and ambient lighting highlight interior upgrades and changes.

New technological features include a drowsy-driver monitoring system, dubbed Attention Assist, and Lane Keeping Assist and Adaptive Highbeam Assist. The car also borrows features from the current S- and CL-class models including Blind Spot Assist and Night View Assist Plus, which recognizes and highlights pedestrians on the central display.
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As far as I know m272 engine was introduced in 2004 so it's been around a while
Mb has pretty quick engine developing cycle I think along with amg engine
As it was mentioned e class is coming out with m272
That figures.... Slk hasn't got new engine too right? I heard that slk are the first ones to recieve the new engine
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That right, its better to wait for a better engine!!!
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Hi,

I wondered the same thing so I was checking out the German Mercedes website cuz I figured if Mercedes introduces a new car/engine/product it would be in their own country to start with. Anyways.... If you look through the online configuration (it's in german but pretty easy to figure out.... it lists the C 350 CGI BlueEFFICIENCY as an engine option.... which is rated at 292HP.

So I think there's hope yet that we'll get in North America too..... maybe?!
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Originally Posted by Peter_Biz
Hi,

I wondered the same thing so I was checking out the German Mercedes website cuz I figured if Mercedes introduces a new car/engine/product it would be in their own country to start with. Anyways.... If you look through the online configuration (it's in german but pretty easy to figure out.... it lists the C 350 CGI BlueEFFICIENCY as an engine option.... which is rated at 292HP.

So I think there's hope yet that we'll get in North America too..... maybe?!

Nice find !!!

Another interesting thing on the german web site is that if you select the c350 BlueEFFICIENCY option it gives 0-100km/h at 6.2sec which is the same like todays engine. I am wondering besides fuel efficiency, what you might get more on the new engine (unless there is a typo in the web site)
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Originally Posted by xsi123
Nice find !!!

Another interesting thing on the german web site is that if you select the c350 BlueEFFICIENCY option it gives 0-100km/h at 6.2sec which is the same like todays engine. I am wondering besides fuel efficiency, what you might get more on the new engine (unless there is a typo in the web site)
You probably get more weight with Diesel drivetrain (maybe also more restrictive exhaust), hence similar 0-100 times.
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Originally Posted by len56
uuhhh... i don't think anybody uses carborators (sp?) anymore...
not fuel injection, direct injection.

As some of the other follow up posts noted, if you don't have to buy a car with these carryover engines, wait for the direct injection engines. This stuff about the high sulfur gas is BS, those DFI engines have to come to the US to meet MPG regulations. I can't see the 2011s not having them, MB is just stringing it out as long as possible to save costs and bleed down the supply of the old motors.
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Originally Posted by nyca
not fuel injection, direct injection.

As some of the other follow up posts noted, if you don't have to buy a car with these carryover engines, wait for the direct injection engines. This stuff about the high sulfur gas is BS, those DFI engines have to come to the US to meet MPG regulations. I can't see the 2011s not having them, MB is just stringing it out as long as possible to save costs and bleed down the supply of the old motors.
I agree. Since all Porsches have direct injection, as one shining example, MB's story about sulfur is stupid and shows how little respect they have for their buyers' intelligence.
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They changed the SLK to a 300hp 265lb Torque. But i just read the mercedes website and the new engines are still gonna be 268hp. It's gonna be a while before they change those engines, probably in years not months.
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Originally Posted by xsi123
Nice find !!!

Another interesting thing on the german web site is that if you select the c350 BlueEFFICIENCY option it gives 0-100km/h at 6.2sec which is the same like todays engine. I am wondering besides fuel efficiency, what you might get more on the new engine (unless there is a typo in the web site)
MB has been known to cut corners when building their websites and tend to list the same figures for the same models regardless of the options. Seen something similar with the C class manual and auto numbers being the same, when we know they are different.

It's a good bet that the current V6 will be dropped in the States in favor of the new 3.5 300 hp engine showing up in the current 09 SLK. It's only a matter of time before they work it into the ML, R, GLK, E, E Coupe and C. Although it does make you wonder why the GLK didn't get the new engine.
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Originally Posted by RLE
I agree. Since all Porsches have direct injection, as one shining example, MB's story about sulfur is stupid and shows how little respect they have for their buyers' intelligence.
I am pretty surprised that MB still has not introduced DI in the U.S. market. Like you said, Porsche has it as well as other auto makers. Audi has had FSI (their naming for DI) for a while now. They started phasing in FSI engines in '06 and now has FSI across all their engines except the 3.2L in the A3.
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C 350 Limousine 6 Zylinder 200 kW (272 PS) Automatikgetriebe 7G-TRONIC 46.082,75 Euro

C 350 CGI BlueEFFICIENCY Limousine 6 Zylinder 215 kW (292 PS) Automatikgetriebe 7G-TRONIC 47.510,75 Euro

...292 PS!
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any updates on the DI engines?
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we know that the 2010 E350 will have the old 3.5 268

the strange thing is that InsideLine just drove the E350 coupe, and they said it had 292 horsepower...
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The C350 CGI *has* to be released in the USA or MBUSA is just dumb. No answer for the 35 engine series by BMW is just suicide
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The article above is correct. That engine can't run on high sulphur petrol. It won't be coming to SA for the same reason. Our fuel will only be compliant by 2011. Australia are ready for it as is Europe obviously.

Porsche's latest engines will not tolerate high sulphur fuel either.

3 way cat convertors can't tolerate fuel at over 10ppm sulphur - period - Benzene emissions become excessive

So no C with new engine until gasoline sulphur levels are below 10ppm which is essentially zero.
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we'll probably see the new engine when a minor facelift is done in another year or so. the SLK350's 300hp unit should make it's way into all the 350s soon. I wouldn't hold out for 2010 tho. MB right now because the W204 is somehow selling very well compare to the 3-series, so I doubt they would change the engine line-up that soon.
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Probably will be making it into the w204 soon. The new w212 coupe will be offered in the U.S. with either the 292hp 350 CGI engine or the 388hp 550 CGI engine.

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