Retrofitting COMAND (MM) writeup. - Page 3

Jun 12, 2009 | 01:36 AM

#51

vic viper

Thread Starter

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 3,135

Likes: 272

From: Sweden

S213

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrjsw

I have a question on Voice control in relation to navigation. Bascially when i try the voice comand in the navi menu it always starts with a statements "Whole word entry not possible, please spell the town", to me it is always not possible to allow me say the town?. This is australia maps i am referring to.

Cheers

Dont know at all, but I think that its only the US that have access to whole word entry with streets, districts and towns.

Jun 12, 2009 | 03:19 AM

#52

Diesel Benz

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Dec 2006

Posts: 6,499

Likes: 336

From: Europe

223.168 & 213.012 & 906.633 & 214.005

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic viper

I really hope that the VeDoc available fo the public doesnt go "live" because if it do there could be serious problems.

Don't worry, I was just referring to some training, not the actual access.

Jun 12, 2009 | 08:21 AM

#53

klingon

Junior Member

Joined: Aug 2003

Posts: 29

Likes: 0

2009 C350 Sport, 2004 ML350

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuru

You can set it so it does not go up and down wit the key. I just pressed the switch on the central vent to close and it stays closed until I hit the button on top of the unit.

Nuru - where do you set this? Went thru the console settings as well as engineering menus but dont find such an option. I'd prefer that my screen stays up all the time rather than open/close with the key. Thx.

Jun 12, 2009 | 10:50 AM

#54

vic viper

Thread Starter

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 3,135

Likes: 272

From: Sweden

S213

Only way to let the screen stay up is if you flip the emergency release lever, but then you wont be able to control it electrically.

Jun 12, 2009 | 04:35 PM

#55

aranu

Member

Joined: Apr 2009

Posts: 166

Likes: 0

C230 2009 , E320 1996, C230 Coupe 2002

Sorry, I don't the MM package

I mean the cover that goes up and down over the screen. Mines not automatic when i turn my car off like what noticed in Vics video. Is this standard on later w204s?

Jun 12, 2009 | 04:47 PM

#56

vic viper

Thread Starter

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 3,135

Likes: 272

From: Sweden

S213

Quote:

Originally Posted by aranu

Sorry, I don't the MM package

I mean the cover that goes up and down over the screen. Mines not automatic when i turn my car off like what noticed in Vics video. Is this standard on later w204s?

Hm, does your display look like this: http://www.geting.se/viewimage.php?i...6-IMG_2688.JPG ?

In that case you have the Audio 20 or APS 50 system, the screen cover is completely manual on these systems.

Jun 12, 2009 | 07:37 PM

#57

aranu

Member

Joined: Apr 2009

Posts: 166

Likes: 0

C230 2009 , E320 1996, C230 Coupe 2002

Yea thats what I have. Is there a way to make it auto? like you did in your video?

Jun 13, 2009 | 02:07 AM

#58

vic viper

Thread Starter

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 3,135

Likes: 272

From: Sweden

S213

Quote:

Originally Posted by aranu

Yea thats what I have. Is there a way to make it auto? like you did in your video?

Yes, if you retrofit the entire COMAND system

MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

Verdad Gallardo

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Verdad Gallardo

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Verdad Gallardo

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Verdad Gallardo

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Verdad Gallardo

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Verdad Gallardo

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Verdad Gallardo

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Verdad Gallardo

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Verdad Gallardo

Jun 13, 2009 | 06:58 AM

#59

Nuru

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Jul 2007

Posts: 1,904

Likes: 29

S350 BT 4MATIC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Benz

Don't worry, I was just referring to some training, not the actual access.

I went back to my dealer again and no go. They keep indicating that they need someone in Germany to approve the change - somewhat frustrating

Jun 13, 2009 | 07:10 AM

#60

vic viper

Thread Starter

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 3,135

Likes: 272

From: Sweden

S213

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuru

I went back to my dealer again and no go. They keep indicating that they need someone in Germany to approve the change - somewhat frustrating

But what if you call another dealer somewheere in the US, a large one in a major city?
Ask some of these dealers and see if you can get some answers.

Jun 13, 2009 | 07:14 AM

#61

Nuru

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Jul 2007

Posts: 1,904

Likes: 29

S350 BT 4MATIC

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic viper

But what if you call another dealer somewheere in the US, a large one in a major city?
Ask some of these dealers and see if you can get some answers.

Vic, Yeah, I am going to try one more dealer in the area. Then, I will try something else. At some point it will get done.

Jun 13, 2009 | 07:18 AM

#62

Nuru

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Jul 2007

Posts: 1,904

Likes: 29

S350 BT 4MATIC

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic viper

Yes, if you retrofit the entire COMAND system

Aruna, I just read your response to having the 5"display, yep Vic is totally correct (as usual

). Either you retrofit the OEM NAV equipment with the 7" screen, or figure out an aftermarket apparatus to do it for oyu.

Jun 13, 2009 | 07:18 AM

#63

Nuru

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Jul 2007

Posts: 1,904

Likes: 29

S350 BT 4MATIC

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic viper

Yes, if you retrofit the entire COMAND system

Aruna, I just read your response to having the 5"display, yep Vic is totally correct (as usual

). Either you retrofit the OEM NAV equipment with the 7" screen, or figure out an apparatus to do it for you.

Jun 13, 2009 | 07:22 AM

#64

Nuru

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Jul 2007

Posts: 1,904

Likes: 29

S350 BT 4MATIC

Quote:

Originally Posted by klingon

Klingon, if I close the screen with the car on, then it might not open up when I I restart the car after turning the car off and it might not close when i turn off the car. However to return it to opening and closing with the car start and car off, I just start the car with the screen closed and then open it while the car is running and then it will open and close with the car start and key removal. I also seem to remember that if I open the screen while the car is off, but I remember to close it while it is off before starting it will open and close with the ignition on and car off/key out sequence.

I have had it open and stay open between car off and on sequences, but I have not done that in a while.

Jun 18, 2009 | 11:34 AM

#65

W204Spain

Newbie

Joined: May 2009

Posts: 7

Likes: 0

W204 220CDI

It is possible change the home screen in comand?

To AMG screen

Jun 18, 2009 | 11:59 AM

#66

vic viper

Thread Starter

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 3,135

Likes: 272

From: Sweden

S213

I have seen someone looking into this trying to find the boot picture, but I think its hopeless as I assume that the picture is embedded in the EPROM.

Jun 18, 2009 | 12:04 PM

#67

W204Spain

Newbie

Joined: May 2009

Posts: 7

Likes: 0

W204 220CDI

Too bad
thanks anyway vic viper

Jun 18, 2009 | 01:44 PM

#68

andreiki

Newbie

Joined: May 2009

Posts: 8

Likes: 0

mb w204

To Vic Viper
sorry for bad english
to get Video AUX need:
1 go in to engeenering mode to 7.7 Video Aux and put ON
2 connect green Fakra connector on comand with Video out of any Video source
3 connect 17 and 18 contacts of blue 18pin connector of comand with Audio source
4 16 or 15 contact to ground
5 select VIDEO will see DVD VIDEO and AUX
6 select AUX this is a VIDEO AUX

Last edited by andreiki; Jun 19, 2009 at 03:30 AM.

Jun 21, 2009 | 06:19 AM

#69

andreiki

Newbie

Joined: May 2009

Posts: 8

Likes: 0

mb w204

Sorry, I've made a mistake in the last post.
Instead of 17 and 18 contacts in 3 there are 9 and 18 contacts.
And Instead of 16 or 15 in 4 there is 17 contact.

Jun 25, 2009 | 10:05 PM

#70

amazemeid

Member

Joined: Jan 2006

Posts: 88

Likes: 0

From: Jakarta-Indonesia

C230 W204 with C63 Kit Package

WOW. Great job. This confirms that buying out of eBay's COMAND unit is not a straight-forward swap then? Correct? Many other parts must be obtained.

Jun 25, 2009 | 10:35 PM

#71

mrjsw

Member

Joined: Apr 2009

Posts: 87

Likes: 0

From: Sydney Australia

W204

Quote:

Originally Posted by amazemeid

WOW. Great job. This confirms that buying out of eBay's COMAND unit is not a straight-forward swap then? Correct? Many other parts must be obtained.

Correct, as least the cost of maps & the blower already cost half of the unit price that i purchased from ebay. plus the labour cost to SCN code the unit to have the cluster display. I didn't save much if i order it NEW at delivery.

The up side is now I fully understand how the system works and it is a DIY project which is priceless.

Jul 14, 2009 | 12:04 AM

#72

mrjsw

Member

Joined: Apr 2009

Posts: 87

Likes: 0

From: Sydney Australia

W204

[quote=vic viper;3565596]Yes they are different.

Blower:

A2048300608 to date 30/09/2008
A2048300808 from date 30/09/2008

[quote]

Vic
Would you be able to tell the difference between the too. I have incorrectly ordered 808.
THanks

Jul 14, 2009 | 01:40 AM

#73

vic viper

Thread Starter

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 3,135

Likes: 272

From: Sweden

S213

[quote=mrjsw;3620942][quote=vic viper;3565596]Yes they are different.

Blower:

A2048300608 to date 30/09/2008
A2048300808 from date 30/09/2008

Quote:

Vic
Would you be able to tell the difference between the too. I have incorrectly ordered 808.
THanks

No I am afraid I do not know the difference between the two, but if the one you bought wont fit then it must be the other one right?

Jul 14, 2009 | 02:23 AM

#74

justthinking

Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 451

Likes: 1

From: S.F. Bay Area

2008 C300 Sport, 2010 RX350 AWD

vic viper, is it possible to upgrade the 5" display of audio 20 w/ the 7" display w/o change the HU??
also, check out this link..
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/#/vehi...Z&yr=2010&vc=C
there is a new command package listed which doesn't offer navigation..I thought audio 50 will have dvd base navi??

Jul 14, 2009 | 03:33 AM

#75

vic viper

Thread Starter

MBWorld Fanatic!

Joined: Mar 2009

Posts: 3,135

Likes: 272

From: Sweden

S213

I have seen pics of Audio20 units using the 7" display and it doesnt look good, the resolutions dont add upp and it looks pretty strange.

Regarding the Comand system w/o navigation I bet that they are using a different HU without the GPS and voice control parts.