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Old 07-12-2010, 07:52 AM
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Wonderfull instalation, I really dream about Command with all options from the very beginning, when asked dealer in Moscow, the price was enormous.
Now I am able to get it (screen and module) 999 euros.
But still, too many questions are open. What list of parts are exactly needed? Will I be able to fix everything working without dealer? As in Moscow they are crazy

Hope if I will go for this, you will be able to help Vic.

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Originally Posted by SuperBeaverAMG
But still, too many questions are open. What list of parts are exactly needed?
What was not clear on the parts list that was posted previously? Homework is the most important step before attempting retrofit tasks, looks like you still needs some before you are ready for the task (I'm sure you will be able to figure out everything).
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Yes this thread has a great deal of information, to get you going and completed on the retrofit of factory Nav.
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What was not clear on the parts list that was posted previously? Homework is the most important step before attempting retrofit tasks, looks like you still needs some before you are ready for the task (I'm sure you will be able to figure out everything).
To frank, you are right. It is just always happens - ask something anyway
The only thing is - only dealer will be able to fix everything with their computer? Or just any MB computer?
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Everything will work, you will only need an MB dealer to activate the IC navi menu.
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Originally Posted by vic viper
Everything will work, you will only need an MB dealer to activate the IC navi menu.
Vic, I am afraid that Moscow dealers won't support you here as it all will be installed not at their site and bought as well.
I do have friendly service with MB computer, will they be able to do this?
Other way is my guarantee will expire that moment anyway, so maybe dealers' price will be acceptable for this "unlock".
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No, you´ll need an autorized dealer to perform the coding, they are the only ones with access to the vedok system wich is needed to add or remove special equipment coding.
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Originally Posted by vic viper
No, you´ll need an autorized dealer to perform the coding, they are the only ones with access to the vedok system wich is needed to add or remove special equipment coding.
So, might be the case in my city, but they cannot refuse such service, question is how much it will cost

PS. Now thinking of buying S210 E55AMG 4Matic, might delay the idea of Command
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I too am thinking of doing the retrofit to my c. I know what parts are needed and how the work is done and I am confident I can accomplish it. But, the only thing holding me back is that my dealership won't re-program my car, or that they will charge an astronomical fee to do so. I would love to call them up and ask them, but what should I ask them. Should I just call up and say, "can you program my car to have the command system if I retrofit it myself, and for how much." or will they look at me like I have 10 heads and I need technical words?
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Dont worry about the programming. I never had mine reprogrammed and works just fine.

The only parts you really need are:

- Comand unit,
- display,
- dual fakra plug adapter for gps and bluetooth antennas (3,27 Euro),
- display cable adapter from kabeldaviko (25 Euro)
- gps antenna (aftermarket) with fakra plug (1,5m cable is best) (15 Euro)

If you have questions, pm me.

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You dont need the programming, but IMO its well worth it, the IC info displays additional info not shown on the main screen, such as distance to next "event" and total distance to set adress.
And when you dont have any adress set you see current street name and direction.
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Oh really, thats the only thing that the programming adds. Never mind then.

Last question: Where have all of you bought the stuff from? Every time I try to use the part number on a mercedes oem discount website it says that they don't carry that part number. And lastly, how much has it cost you out the door for everything (excluding labor)?
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Perform the programming, there is nothing worse than a system that is half finished, I mostly use the IC-display while navigating.

I am guessing I have spent around $1800 for all the parts needed, all parts were bought from the dealership I work at.
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<Objective>
I want to add in a digital TV tuner* into our Command via the Video Aux.

<Action>
- I have gone into the engineering mode at 7.7 Video Aux and turned it ON.

<Issue>
- When I switch to Video at Command, there is only a single option, that is, Video DVD.

<Question>
- How could I get the Video Aux option make available to me?
- How could I connect the digital TV tuner into the command?
- What item/s do I need?
- Where could I purchase it online?

<More Details>
- The green Fakra connector on my comand was used for the rear view (or reverse) camera


May I consult the subject-expertise on how I could achieve my objective?

Thank you.

Best Regards.


* Details for digital TV tuner
http://www.digistream.com.sg/Resourc...al_DTV2000.pdf

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Originally Posted by jctevere
I too am thinking of doing the retrofit to my c. I know what parts are needed and how the work is done and I am confident I can accomplish it. But, the only thing holding me back is that my dealership won't re-program my car, or that they will charge an astronomical fee to do so. I would love to call them up and ask them, but what should I ask them. Should I just call up and say, "can you program my car to have the command system if I retrofit it myself, and for how much." or will they look at me like I have 10 heads and I need technical words?
According to a few US Dealers I have dealt with, MBZ NorthAm and/or MBZ Germany, do not authorize the US dealers to perform the retrofit nor to reprogram the car to turn on any features that it was not delivered with. Hence they offer the UMI versus performing the factory retrofit. So if you want the NAV feature enabled on the IC, you need to go to reputable auto shop with experienced former MBZ technicians to get someone with the knowledge to go into the special menus within Xentry/DAS to enable the NAV Option on the IC. I had the dealers take a look and upgrade my system to the latest COMAND software at the time after my upgrade, and that ends up clearing up any potential issues with your installation.
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Originally Posted by lingnoi
Dont worry about the programming. I never had mine reprogrammed and works just fine.

The only parts you really need are:

- Comand unit,
- display,
- dual fakra plug adapter for gps and bluetooth antennas (3,27 Euro),
- display cable adapter from kabeldaviko (25 Euro)
- gps antenna (aftermarket) with fakra plug (1,5m cable is best) (15 Euro)

If you have questions, pm me.

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Depending on the climate where you live, the Axial Fan blower is a must to add or you will risk overheating the COMAND unit, as it gets very warm and that compartment does not ventilate well without the assistance of the Axial Fan blower.
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Also look for a Mercedes dealer mechanic that does work on the side. I get my work done typically at 1/3 to 1/2 the dealer price besides the basic maintenance like oil/filter changes that I do myself.
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Originally Posted by Cklasse5
<Objective>
I want to add in a digital TV tuner* into our Command via the Video Aux.

<Action>
- I have gone into the engineering mode at 7.7 Video Aux and turned it ON.

<Issue>
- When I switch to Video at Command, there is only a single option, that is, Video DVD.

<Question>
- How could I get the Video Aux option make available to me?
- How could I connect the digital TV tuner into the command?
- What item/s do I need?
- Where could I purchase it online?

<More Details>
- The green Fakra connector on my comand was used for the rear view (or reverse) camera


May I consult the subject-expertise on how I could achieve my objective?

Thank you.

Best Regards.


* Details for digital TV tuner
http://www.digistream.com.sg/Resourc...al_DTV2000.pdf

You might get many more responses if you started your own thread on this topic instead of burying your information request within this thread.
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Originally Posted by dariusf
Also look for a Mercedes dealer mechanic that does work on the side. I get my work done typically at 1/3 to 1/2 the dealer price besides the basic maintenance like oil/filter changes that I do myself.
yes, +1 on this.
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Originally Posted by vic viper
Perform the programming, there is nothing worse than a system that is half finished, I mostly use the IC-display while navigating.

I am guessing I have spent around $1800 for all the parts needed, all parts were bought from the dealership I work at.
+1 on the use of the IC display, it does provide succinct information for NAV.
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Originally Posted by Nuru
You might get many more responses if you started your own thread on this topic instead of burying your information request within this thread.
Thanks for the advice. I was worried that I might be 'penalised' for opening another thread on the Command. Once again thanks, I shall follow your guidance to post a new thread.

Cheers!
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wow nice work VIC!! question... where can i get those "MB special tools, its a small wire shaped like an "L" in the end"?? i would love to get my hands on those, thanks
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Originally Posted by dadangman
wow nice work VIC!! question... where can i get those "MB special tools, its a small wire shaped like an "L" in the end"?? i would love to get my hands on those, thanks

If you enlarge the picture youll see the part number, any dealer should be able to order them for you.
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Originally Posted by dadangman
wow nice work VIC!! question... where can i get those "MB special tools, its a small wire shaped like an "L" in the end"?? i would love to get my hands on those, thanks
If you do not get the tool, you can do it with a scraper/metal spatula/small screwdriver/"carefully bent hanger wire or #12 wire" too. You must be very careful, even with the special tool, if you have not done it before.
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In Vics writeup he didn't mention anything about the magenta connector on the APS wiring harness.(can be seen on the 8th. pic) Can I assume that it should be connected?


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