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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Broke 1,000 miles. Thoughts on my c350

This weekend I broke the 1,000 mile mark on my odometer,
I wanted to share my thoughts on the power of my c350.
First my car prior to, was a 06 lexus is350 wich has great numbers on paper 0-60 5.1-5.3 and quarter mile times of 13.5-13.8. I noticed though the car did'nt seem to have much top end/highway passing power. From a dig the c350 feels plenty strong and I can barely tell the difference from the lexus. Now on the top end/highway passing it seems like a bigger difference, the c350 get's up and goes when mashing the gas from 50mph+. I believe going highway speeds the c350 can keep up or even walk the 335/is350. I've driven a family members 335i and it's a monster from a dig but I found it hard to convince myself that it was faster at highway speeds then my c350. It honestly felt the same. I'm sure some will find this thread useless but I just wanted to share my thoughts. I'm pretty pumped about not having to baby my car all the time now. Not that I drive it hard all the time. It's more like piece of mind knowing on the highway when it comes down to business the c350 goes to work!
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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335 def. has us from a dead stop..but from a 40mph roll...I dunno..can't tell a huge difference. I've driven a 335i coupe on a number of occasions.

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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 03:03 AM
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The torque numbers are comparable between the IS 3.5 and the C 3.5, which is all you need for highway aceleration
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SCguy08
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335 def. has us from a dead stop..but from a 40mph roll...I dunno..can't tell a huge difference. I've driven a 335i coupe on a number of occasions.
I believe going highway speeds the c350 can keep up or even walk the 335/is350.


You're both joking, no? A C350 stands no chance against an N54-engined BMW, rolling or not, highway or not. The engine is a beast. If you think it feels even remotely like the 3.5 M272, you're not doing something right. It has a 32hp and 42tq advantage, it's to be expected. That's a very significant difference.

C350 is a good car, though. I had one for a week as a loaner (surprised at being given a 350 with the P2 package as a loaner) and really enjoyed it.

The torque numbers are comparable between the IS 3.5 and the C 3.5, which is all you need for highway aceleration
Actually, no. It's HP that is more important for that sort of thing. 306 for the IS and 268 for the C350 = big difference. There's a 19lb-ft difference in TQ, as well (277 vs 258) and that's fairly signficant. Love your cars, but let's not be delusional here.

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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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You're both joking, no? A C350 stands no chance against an N54-engined BMW, rolling or not, highway or not. The engine is a beast. If you think it feels even remotely like the 3.5 M272, you're not doing something right. It has a 32hp and 42tq advantage, it's to be expected. That's a very significant difference.

C350 is a good car, though. I had one for a week as a loaner (surprised at being given a 350 with the P2 package as a loaner) and really enjoyed it.



Actually, no. It's HP that is more important for that sort of thing. 306 for the IS and 268 for the C350 = big difference. There's a 19lb-ft difference in TQ, as well (277 vs 258) and that's fairly signficant. Love your cars, but let's not be delusional here.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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I love how some people hold the C350 soooo high on the performance side of things.

When it comes to sports sedans I hate to say it but the C350 is pretty low in the pack performance wise VS other cars in the same class. With that being said I still really enjoy my C350 and as a total package goes, its a damn good car.

It just needs another 50hp
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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wow!
I did'nt know this was going to turn into such a negative thread. I posted this thread just as a personal observation and wanted to share my thoughts on acceleration between my old car (06 lexus is350) and my new c350. I think it's fair to say this qualifies me to share my comparison.
My wife owns an 07 328i, and I would go on bmw forums but never made a post because of all the pissing matches that go on over there. I was amazed to see how this forum did'nt have much of that at all. But wow!
No matter how you slice were all enthusiast or else we would not be on this forum. All im saying is that if you have an opinion great but if theres no negativity in someones thread/post please refraim from adding it. Let's just enjoy our vehicles fast or apparantly not.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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wow!
I did'nt know this was going to turn into such a negative thread. I posted this thread just as a personal observation and wanted to share my thoughts on acceleration between my old car (06 lexus is350) and my new c350. I think it's fair to say this qualifies me to share my comparison.
My wife owns an 07 328i, and I would go on bmw forums but never made a post because of all the pissing matches that go on over there. I was amazed to see how this forum did'nt have much of that at all. But wow!
No matter how you slice were all enthusiast or else we would not be on this forum. All im saying is that if you have an opinion great but if theres no negativity in someones thread/post please refraim from adding it. Let's just enjoy our vehicles fast or apparantly not.
Funny that on a Mercedes forum, we're all talking about how the other cars that we dont own would do better lol. Only pissing match were in is setting the record straight that our cars are not as fast as the ones you've listed. well there is one guy on here who has a C300 that says he can beat Ford GTs, IS350s, 335s and so on.... =)

Most forums people will defend their cars til the thread gets old or locked.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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Like I said my thoughts on a comparison between my new car and old car.
I know the cars I listed are faster I'm just giving my comparison between the two! It's a shame to see all this thread slamming. More negative posts than positive. Come on people where's the love! Lol
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I wasn't being negative, dude. I love my Benz, even it 5-year-old lowly C230 form. But I own a BMW with the N54 engine and I can tell you that you have way underestimated it if you think the C350 is comparable in performance.

Still love the W204.. but I'm realistic about it.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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And Ive owned my is350 for 3 years and can tell you that I've raced 335i's and never lost a race so I don't think I've underestimated my comparison. Your making it seem like there's this huge night and day difference. you don't even have a c350 to talk about a comparison and no driving one for a day or week is not the same as me owning a car for 3 years and comparing it to a car I've had for 3 months.
Lame how I have to defend my thread when I was just wanting to share my thoughts.

I'm in no way saying my car is faster than the 335i/is350 just sharing my comparison with how the car drives at highway speeds.

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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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I'm in no way saying my car is faster than the 335i/is350 just sharing my comparison with how the car drives at highway speeds.


I believe going highway speeds the c350 can keep up or even walk the 335/is350.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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Obviously you didn't read my whole first post, I clearly state my is350's numbers and then share my thoughts about highway/passing power.
It's funny that you try and pull quotes from my thread. Your just grasping at straws now buddy! Figures you would derail this thread, maybe you can pull a quote from my post about the BMW forum. Lame! Go ahead and post again because I'm over this thread! Way to go champ!
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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
I wasn't being negative, dude. I love my Benz, even it 5-year-old lowly C230 form. But I own a BMW with the N54 engine and I can tell you that you have way underestimated it if you think the C350 is comparable in performance.

Still love the W204.. but I'm realistic about it.
To be fair, you drive an 135i and he was talking about a 335i. Very different. But then again, I have never driven a C350 nor a N54 engined BMW. I did drive a C300 loaner and it does feels slower than my "04.5" C320.

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To be fair, you drive an 135i and he was talking about a 335i. Very different. But then again, I have never driven a C350 nor a N54 engined BMW. I did drive a C300 loaner and it does feels slower than my "04.5" C320.
Actually there isn't a big difference, which is why I have the 135i instead of the 335i. Performance numbers are basically identical.

And Ive owned my is350 for 3 years and can tell you that I've raced 335i's and never lost a race
IS350 is much more closely matched to the 335i than the C350 is. You don't think 38hp is much different? Cause that's the difference between C350 and IS350. If 38hp isn't much different, why didn't you buy the C300? What is your justification for forking over more $$ for the C350 if 38hp isn't even noticeable?

Your making it seem like there's this huge night and day difference. you don't even have a c350 to talk about a comparison and no driving one for a day or week is not the same
There is a huge night and day difference. Not quite sure how much more clear it could be. Torque of 300@1400rpm is a huge difference over 258@2400 - this is a fact, not my opinion. It takes just one drive in the C350 to know it doesn't come close to matching the 335i or 135i. Figure 13.8@103 for the 335 through the quarter compared to 14.5@98 for the C350.. yeah.. close race there.

I'm in no way saying my car is faster than the 335i/is350 just sharing my comparison with how the car drives at highway speeds.
Well, then I agree with you. Going 80mph in a C350 is in fact the same as going 80mph in a 335i. How fast they got there, or how fast they can increase from there, notwithstanding.

Happy motoring.

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Obviously you didn't read my whole first post, I clearly state my is350's numbers and then share my thoughts about highway/passing power.
It's funny that you try and pull quotes from my thread. Your just grasping at straws now buddy! Figures you would derail this thread, maybe you can pull a quote from my post about the BMW forum. Lame! Go ahead and post again because I'm over this thread! Way to go champ!
lol, it seems you are the one who didnt think/re-read before typing.
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Here is my scenario. I raced a 330i on the freeway 40-50 mph start till 100 (can't remember if it was 40 or 50). I had min 4 max 6 cars on him (I'm estimating through my rear view mirror).

So the 335i which has 45 hp more what would that do?

A: Kill me big time
B: Have couple of cars on me
C: Even race
D: I have couple of cars on him
F: I will Kill it (not possible since I had max 6 cars on the 330i)

You guys decide.
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Originally Posted by sblue
Like I said my thoughts on a comparison between my new car and old car.
I know the cars I listed are faster I'm just giving my comparison between the two! It's a shame to see all this thread slamming. More negative posts than positive. Come on people where's the love! Lol
you have a point. It is perfectly normal to express your experiences. Come on people! My current car now C300 is in no way comparable to my precvious daily , M5. But i ain't complainin !!
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Originally Posted by Jorgeassoc
you have a point. It is perfectly normal to express your experiences. Come on people! My current car now C300 is in no way comparable to my precvious daily , M5. But i ain't complainin !!


No one was being negative. Only pointing out the obvious - that, stock for stock, a BMW 135 or 335 will obliterate a C350 from a dig, from a roll, period, end of story. If his "experiences" led him to believe otherwise, he is mistaken and we corrected it.

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335 in no way can smoke an is350, I know because I raced and beat em more than once! For you to say a 335 will "obliderate" a c350 from a roll your saddley mistaken mr. I don't even have a c350 so shouldn't even be opening your mouth in the first place! I know the c350 will keep pace with a 335 at highway speeds. I had my brother in law who owns one do some runs with me on a clear stretch of road. He was never more than a car length ahead of me 40 mph rolls to 110. Far from an oblideration!!
How do you like them apples chachi!!!! Owned!
Have fun in your cute lil 135. You are the poster boy for the BMW forums!

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335 in no way can smoke an is350, I know because I raced and beat em more than once! For you to say a 335 will "obliderate" a c350 from a roll your saddley mistaken mr. I don't even have a c350 so shouldn't even be opening your mouth in the first place! I know the c350 will keep pace with a 335 at highway speeds. I had my brother in law who owns one do some runs with me on a clear stretch of road. He was never more than a car length ahead of me 40 mph rolls to 110. Far from an oblideration!!
How do you like them apples chachi!!!! Owned!
Have fun in your cute lil 135. You are the poster boy for the BMW forums!
So I'm guessing the answer would be C? I'll race one and let you guys know. Anyone with a 335i in the Los Angeles area?

Originally Posted by Karo
Here is my scenario. I raced a 330i on the freeway 40-50 mph start till 100 (can't remember if it was 40 or 50). I had min 4 max 6 cars on him (I'm estimating through my rear view mirror).

So the 335i which has 45 hp more what would that do?

A: Kill me big time
B: Have couple of cars on me
C: Even race
D: I have couple of cars on him
F: I will Kill it (not possible since I had max 6 cars on the 330i)

You guys decide.
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I would also love to go up against a w204 C350. Anyone in LA wanna have some fun?
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