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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by supacrazykev
Isn't it better to drive with Tiptronic or Speed Touch
What do you mean?

BTW, Tiptronic is a trade name used by Porsche since 1990. Mercedes uses another term for their version. As do all the others with similar transmissions.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Ah, I think I saw Petje busy with his nice weekend last sunday on the A13 near Rotterdam. A small breath of a black W204 and i could just see an impressive quad exhaust shining in the night . I don't think there are much with this mod in our country.
Couldt be me ....



Originally Posted by tls1212
i have done mine with TuneKit just like the power throttle it is best wht i would said definitely best all gearing responce is fast and smooth
Looks the same, is the tunekit also adjustable??
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Looks the same, is the tunekit also adjustable??
Yup it can adjustable too
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tls1212
Yup it can adjustable too
And do you like it? is it worth the money, and do you have manual or auto transmission??
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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And do you like it? is it worth the money, and do you have manual or auto transmission??
yup i like it,it worth the money mine is auto transmission
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tls1212
yup i like it,it worth the money mine is auto transmission
Did you have the sprintbooster prior to this?
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Did you have the sprintbooster prior to this?
I have the Sprint Booster now, and will try to putt the Power Throttle this wekeend... but im very busy so dont know if i have some time left to do this.

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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by WHAT'S NEXT?
Any more info?
No i'm sorry, they sended me the W203 Power Throttle, was miss packaged, the box says W204 but it didnt fit, so now i'm waiting to receive the good one.

When i have news i will post it here.

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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Petje
I have received the power throttle today, gonna try it this weekend if i have the time...

Here are 2 pictures, one with the box open.

You can adjust it by turning the white circle to 3 o'clock it's on max and turn it to 9 o'clock you decrease the response.

When tested i will put my story here...




Any update?
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 05:26 AM
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i am selling a sprint ooster for our w204's much cheaper than new.. pm me
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
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Just leave them be Glyn, we tried but it's just not worth the trouble anymore.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RLE
What do you mean?

BTW, Tiptronic is a trade name used by Porsche since 1990. Mercedes uses another term for their version. As do all the others with similar transmissions.
Oops i meant using Mercedes' Touch Shift to shift the gears. Isn't shifting the gears yourself give the same results as the sprint boosters? If you're shifting the gears using the Touch Shift, you wouldn't have to press that extra pressure on the pedal in order to get full throttle.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by acr2001


Just leave them be Glyn, we tried but it's just not worth the trouble anymore.
No - heaven forbid! - I've had enough - let the kids be.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
No - heaven forbid! - I've had enough - let the kids be.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by blkbenz16
Any Updates????
UPDATEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Have installed the power throttle this weekend!!
Now im trying to find out the best adjustment, you can adjust it from normal to sporty.

Have it in the most sporty adjustment now, that really sensitive, if i put my transmission in S its crazy....
With rainy weather the ESP light keep on blinking when you accelerate from the traffic lights. And havent got that that much as without any converter and sprintbooster.

This mornig it was snowing here, than you have to watch out....
Believe me, if you have an automatic 5-speed gear box YOU MUST HAVE THIS. I cant speak for the 7-speed gear boxes or manual gear boxes because i dont have experience with it...

And people can say its the same like putting the accellerator to the floor, but its totaly different. The 5-speed auto tran. have a terrible lag, and with the Power Throttle there is no lag anymore.

I had removed the Sprintbooster couple of weeks ago, when they send me the wrong power throttle, so i was driving without the Sprintbooster. Have tryed everything people say, push the accelerator etc. but its not the same.

Do i like the Power Throttle more than the Sprintbooster??
Absolutely, the sprintbooster is more on/off the power throttle is smoother....

And just like the Sprintbooster, some like it, some hate it... and than you have the people who hate it but dont know what they're talking about because they never tryed it......




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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Ja kerel - I've played with a Sprintbooster but never a Power Throttle so I won't comment

Sorry - I can't put the kappie on the "e"
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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So is the Power throttle available for purchase, and how much?
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by acr2001
Have none of you seen the white paper on the sprint booster or the huge thread about it? It was scientifically PROVEN that it does absolutely nothing to throttle response or power.
No power change, but it increases throttle response ( reaction at throttle to motion at pedal ) by about 30%, based on the white paper data.

http://www.peony888.com/VS/SprintBooster.pdf --- Whitepaper: SprintBooster on MB


This is an excellent test, and includes insight into MB's adaptive nature of the throttle, including quotes from a MB reference. Unfortunately, the author has a poor definition of "response", and related false conclusions.

The data clearly shows a 30% response improvement, which the author defined as sensitivity. He did a separate test, going to WOT as fast as possible (~.2sec). The stock response for this specific test was almost immediate, and the booster had no significant improvement. In my opinion, the author was wrong to use this single test (mash pedal to floor asap) to define general throttle response.

Originally Posted by acr2001
There's always someone who will respond now and say that I'm wrong. I'm not going to respond to that because the white paper clearly states the facts.
I read the paper, and evaluated the data, and suggest you do to. Sounds like it really helps the atx.

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Originally Posted by kevink2
No power change, but it increases throttle response ( reaction at throttle to motion at pedal ) by about 30%, based on the white paper data.

http://www.peony888.com/VS/SprintBooster.pdf --- Whitepaper: SprintBooster on MB


This is an excellent test, and includes insight into the adaptive nature of the throttle, including quotes from a MB reference. Unfortunately, the author has a poor definition of "response", and related false conclusions.

The data clearly shows a 30% response improvement, which the author defined as sensitivity. He did a separate test, going to WOT as fast as possible (~.2sec). The stock response for this specific test was almost immediate, and the booster had no significant improvement. In my opinion, the author was wrong to use this single test (mash pedal to floor asap) to define general throttle response.

I read the paper, and evaluated the data, and suggest you do to. Sounds like it really helps the atx.

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You guys absolutely kill me.
There is a HUGE thread about this white paper on the W203 forum.
Me and Glyn have read EVERYTHING about this. It DOES NOT improve throttle response. It amplifies it.
The time it takes for the car to respond to your throttle input is the same. I don't understand how you can disagree with those facts based on the hard data (the graphs) in the white paper.

If you guys are fooled this easily by the product and really feel that it makes the car better, so be it, maybe it is worth it for you.
Not trying to start an argument as all the data is out there for all to see, and I have posted my thoughts on this numerous times.
Also, unless the sprintbooster has been redesigned and is now forwarding the redundant throttle signals that MB designed the vehicle with, then it is also a safety concern to be using it. I have also posted about this before.

For those who want to comment but still have not read this white paper allow me to post the most important part for you. This is a direct quote:

"What does this mean? Basically, the Sprint Booster makes the accelerator pedal
about 30% more sensitive. A side effect, which can readily be seen in the graphs
in Figure 3 and Figure 4, is that the accelerator pedal becomes dead beyond about
two thirds travel with Sprint Booster.
It is important to note that any accelerator signal into the ECU using a Sprint
Booster can be duplicated exactly by a driver without a Sprint Booster, merely by
pressing the accelerator pedal a greater distance.
"

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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Throttle lag on these cars is created & maintained in the ECU - The only way to get rid of it is to reprofile the ECU.

All these other devices are merely signal amplifiers.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:50 AM
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acr - If, after the lag period which remains constant - these guys are happy to have WOT at 50% of pedal movement let them go & play. It's their money. All I say is that they should not mislead others on the forum.
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