Ziebart Protection Worth It?
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Ziebart Protection Worth It?
Hi everyone. I just signed the papers to a 2009 C350. It's my first car purchase ever. The dealer asked me if I wanted Ziebart rust protection etc. for $850. Is this worth it?
And does anyone know how much clear bra costs and if that's worth it?
And does anyone know how much clear bra costs and if that's worth it?
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Regarding so-called "rust protection"....
NO!Dealer rustproofing is a pure dealer profit item and may damage your car. I used to sell it. Don't let anyone drill or de-trim your vehicle to spray this stuff. Spend the money on more frequent waxing and washing if you live where there is snow/ice, and therefore salt/sand on the roads. I did not work for Mercedes, but I am sure they are using state of the art e-coating technology for their bodies-in-white. How old was the last rusty Mercedes you saw?
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I noticed someone in my parking lot today with a clear bra, and it looked about 4 years old. It wasn't a full coverage, but first 20" of the hood or so, and the obvious line where it ended made me wonder if it was just a bad install that caught up with the owner, or if this is how they all age.
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I saw an install on a new IS-F and it was horrible. They said they should have used the lamin-x or the 3M version. Less than a year old and already had to be replaced.
As far as the "rust protection" it is waste. That is one of the oldest scams in the world.
As far as the "rust protection" it is waste. That is one of the oldest scams in the world.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I will turn down the rust protection and invest in the clear bra!
Now I'm contemplating if I should buy a cheap beater for the winter, or buy winter tires for it. Anyone have an opinion on this?
Now I'm contemplating if I should buy a cheap beater for the winter, or buy winter tires for it. Anyone have an opinion on this?
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When I lived in Amherst (just outside Buffalo), in the late 70's, I spared my 3 series from coming out of the garage on the bad days in the winter. I had a $250 Mercury Monterey winter rat I picked up on a used car lot. Makes a S Class look small today, but with all that weight, it went everywhere in the snow, but I kept it local. That Bimmer went 13 years before I sold it for 50% of the new purchase price...so protecting it from winter may have some long term benefit...
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Sportstick, you're from Ohio? I use a daily car as well. As as far as clear bra goes, I have been using since 2002, and would go without it. Only get name brands like 3M or X-pel. And on this car, I highly suggest you let a pro do it.
Paint sealers and rust protection packages are a huge rip-off. I have been detailing (not as much recently) and around detailers for many years and I have only encountered one product that comes close to living up to its claims of sealing, paint pore removal and so on. It was the Ming Mirror Finish. I think you can still get it done in some areas. I had a black car that I used to show. When I purchased it (it was a year old) it had some significant swirls. I took it to Ming and it they made the paint look better than a new. All of the orange peel was gone and there was not a swirl in sight. Simple maintenance kept it that way until I sold it four years later. It is still a buffing process, but it is really nice.
My last car had a 12 year/ 100,000 mile rust perforation warranty. I haven't even checked to see it this car has something similar.
Paint sealers and rust protection packages are a huge rip-off. I have been detailing (not as much recently) and around detailers for many years and I have only encountered one product that comes close to living up to its claims of sealing, paint pore removal and so on. It was the Ming Mirror Finish. I think you can still get it done in some areas. I had a black car that I used to show. When I purchased it (it was a year old) it had some significant swirls. I took it to Ming and it they made the paint look better than a new. All of the orange peel was gone and there was not a swirl in sight. Simple maintenance kept it that way until I sold it four years later. It is still a buffing process, but it is really nice.
My last car had a 12 year/ 100,000 mile rust perforation warranty. I haven't even checked to see it this car has something similar.
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I was debating the same option but I just bought winter tires as I was running out of time. I'm going to start looking for a 20+ year old mercedes euro-spec diesel convertible, any suggestions? I think what I'm looking for is an S190?
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I live in MA. I purchased a 1994 Nissan Sentra to drive in the winter. I don't care how it looks becase it is covered in snow and salt most of the time. My C300 sits in my garage and only comes out when the roads are dry. The Sentra was much cheaper than new rims and snow tires for the MB.
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Sportstick, you're from Ohio? I use a daily car as well. As as far as clear bra goes, I have been using since 2002, and would go without it. Only get name brands like 3M or X-pel. And on this car, I highly suggest you let a pro do it.
Paint sealers and rust protection packages are a huge rip-off. I have been detailing (not as much recently) and around detailers for many years and I have only encountered one product that comes close to living up to its claims of sealing, paint pore removal and so on. It was the Ming Mirror Finish. I think you can still get it done in some areas. I had a black car that I used to show. When I purchased it (it was a year old) it had some significant swirls. I took it to Ming and it they made the paint look better than a new. All of the orange peel was gone and there was not a swirl in sight. Simple maintenance kept it that way until I sold it four years later. It is still a buffing process, but it is really nice.
My last car had a 12 year/ 100,000 mile rust perforation warranty. I haven't even checked to see it this car has something similar.
Paint sealers and rust protection packages are a huge rip-off. I have been detailing (not as much recently) and around detailers for many years and I have only encountered one product that comes close to living up to its claims of sealing, paint pore removal and so on. It was the Ming Mirror Finish. I think you can still get it done in some areas. I had a black car that I used to show. When I purchased it (it was a year old) it had some significant swirls. I took it to Ming and it they made the paint look better than a new. All of the orange peel was gone and there was not a swirl in sight. Simple maintenance kept it that way until I sold it four years later. It is still a buffing process, but it is really nice.
My last car had a 12 year/ 100,000 mile rust perforation warranty. I haven't even checked to see it this car has something similar.
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I called my local 3M certified shop and they told me I had a few options.
1. $299 for hood & fenders
2. $399 for these other parts of the car. I forgot what the guy said but it's the areas that would be most likely to get hit by rocks
3. $599 for both kits installed
It has a 5 year warranty.
Is this a good price for 3M clear bra installation?
1. $299 for hood & fenders
2. $399 for these other parts of the car. I forgot what the guy said but it's the areas that would be most likely to get hit by rocks
3. $599 for both kits installed
It has a 5 year warranty.
Is this a good price for 3M clear bra installation?
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All dealer and aftermarket rust protections are is pure profit. Zero benefit unless it's a pre 1980s car
Modern cars do not need it because they are fully protected from factory.
Clear bras do protect the paint but look fugly after a few months. Only option though for those who are on freeways lots.
Modern cars do not need it because they are fully protected from factory.
Clear bras do protect the paint but look fugly after a few months. Only option though for those who are on freeways lots.
