Can't figure this out - Door Locking
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Can't figure this out - Door Locking
Guys - feel really stupid asking this but pls help.
Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
whats the purpose of locking the doors when anyone on the inside can open it even when driving at high speeds. (particularly kids/teenagers/suicide prone ppl!)
Also, the driver compartment has the central locking control with a lock on windows. when that switch is pressed, red light comes on and windows at the back cannot be opened. Why can't this be used to also lock the doors at the back as well so windows and doors cannot be operated unless driver releases switch?
Seems a stupid design - maybe the idea was to get people inside the vehicle out if needed .
your thoughts. My previous renault had a good lockign system that was controlled by the driver - no child lock to be engaged. one flick of switch and both the windows and doors at the back would be locked - from the inside.
Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
whats the purpose of locking the doors when anyone on the inside can open it even when driving at high speeds. (particularly kids/teenagers/suicide prone ppl!)
Also, the driver compartment has the central locking control with a lock on windows. when that switch is pressed, red light comes on and windows at the back cannot be opened. Why can't this be used to also lock the doors at the back as well so windows and doors cannot be operated unless driver releases switch?
Seems a stupid design - maybe the idea was to get people inside the vehicle out if needed .
your thoughts. My previous renault had a good lockign system that was controlled by the driver - no child lock to be engaged. one flick of switch and both the windows and doors at the back would be locked - from the inside.
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Guys - feel really stupid asking this but pls help.
Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
whats the purpose of locking the doors when anyone on the inside can open it even when driving at high speeds. (particularly kids/teenagers/suicide prone ppl!)
Also, the driver compartment has the central locking control with a lock on windows. when that switch is pressed, red light comes on and windows at the back cannot be opened. Why can't this be used to also lock the doors at the back as well so windows and doors cannot be operated unless driver releases switch?
Seems a stupid design - maybe the idea was to get people inside the vehicle out if needed .
your thoughts. My previous renault had a good lockign system that was controlled by the driver - no child lock to be engaged. one flick of switch and both the windows and doors at the back would be locked - from the inside.
Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
whats the purpose of locking the doors when anyone on the inside can open it even when driving at high speeds. (particularly kids/teenagers/suicide prone ppl!)
Also, the driver compartment has the central locking control with a lock on windows. when that switch is pressed, red light comes on and windows at the back cannot be opened. Why can't this be used to also lock the doors at the back as well so windows and doors cannot be operated unless driver releases switch?
Seems a stupid design - maybe the idea was to get people inside the vehicle out if needed .
your thoughts. My previous renault had a good lockign system that was controlled by the driver - no child lock to be engaged. one flick of switch and both the windows and doors at the back would be locked - from the inside.
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The purpose of the automatic central locking feature is to prevent car jacking. That is odd that you can prevent the windows from being used in the rear, but you cannot prevent the rear doors from being opened from the inside ( useful when you have small children ) – I never thought about that before.
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The purpose of the automatic central locking feature is to prevent car jacking. That is odd that you can prevent the windows from being used in the rear, but you cannot prevent the rear doors from being opened from the inside ( useful when you have small children ) – I never thought about that before.
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Child locks
Guys - feel really stupid asking this but pls help.
Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
whats the purpose of locking the doors when anyone on the inside can open it even when driving at high speeds. (particularly kids/teenagers/suicide prone ppl!)
Also, the driver compartment has the central locking control with a lock on windows. when that switch is pressed, red light comes on and windows at the back cannot be opened. Why can't this be used to also lock the doors at the back as well so windows and doors cannot be operated unless driver releases switch?
Seems a stupid design - maybe the idea was to get people inside the vehicle out if needed .
your thoughts. My previous renault had a good lockign system that was controlled by the driver - no child lock to be engaged. one flick of switch and both the windows and doors at the back would be locked - from the inside.
Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
whats the purpose of locking the doors when anyone on the inside can open it even when driving at high speeds. (particularly kids/teenagers/suicide prone ppl!)
Also, the driver compartment has the central locking control with a lock on windows. when that switch is pressed, red light comes on and windows at the back cannot be opened. Why can't this be used to also lock the doors at the back as well so windows and doors cannot be operated unless driver releases switch?
Seems a stupid design - maybe the idea was to get people inside the vehicle out if needed .
your thoughts. My previous renault had a good lockign system that was controlled by the driver - no child lock to be engaged. one flick of switch and both the windows and doors at the back would be locked - from the inside.
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I never new that! My mom's Lexus has this feature, but I never looked for it on my car.
This will be very useful because I have to press the unlock button sometimes because my sister sometimes has a hard time pulling up the door pin.
This will be very useful because I have to press the unlock button sometimes because my sister sometimes has a hard time pulling up the door pin.
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Guys - feel really stupid asking this but pls help.
Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
whats the purpose of locking the doors when anyone on the inside can open it even when driving at high speeds. (particularly kids/teenagers/suicide prone ppl!)
Also, the driver compartment has the central locking control with a lock on windows. when that switch is pressed, red light comes on and windows at the back cannot be opened. Why can't this be used to also lock the doors at the back as well so windows and doors cannot be operated unless driver releases switch?
Seems a stupid design - maybe the idea was to get people inside the vehicle out if needed .
your thoughts. My previous renault had a good lockign system that was controlled by the driver - no child lock to be engaged. one flick of switch and both the windows and doors at the back would be locked - from the inside.
Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
whats the purpose of locking the doors when anyone on the inside can open it even when driving at high speeds. (particularly kids/teenagers/suicide prone ppl!)
Also, the driver compartment has the central locking control with a lock on windows. when that switch is pressed, red light comes on and windows at the back cannot be opened. Why can't this be used to also lock the doors at the back as well so windows and doors cannot be operated unless driver releases switch?
Seems a stupid design - maybe the idea was to get people inside the vehicle out if needed .
your thoughts. My previous renault had a good lockign system that was controlled by the driver - no child lock to be engaged. one flick of switch and both the windows and doors at the back would be locked - from the inside.
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Child locks
Not present in US models. Just a rectangular hole with what looks like a receiver for a plug-in something.
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Unless you are a policeman with prisoners in the back, there is no good reason to prevent rear seat passengers from escaping in case of an accident or an incapacitation of the driver. MB must have had that in mind when they removed the child locks (doors) from the W204's equipment list. Plus they saved themselves a few pfennigs.
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i repeat - go buy a renault.
if your children are too stupid to know that opening a car door at speed is not safe then there is a problem...
furthermore, the day that you can get your kids out of a fire-filled coffin you won't be *****ing..
safety above stupidity
my 2cents
if your children are too stupid to know that opening a car door at speed is not safe then there is a problem...
furthermore, the day that you can get your kids out of a fire-filled coffin you won't be *****ing..
safety above stupidity
my 2cents
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i repeat - go buy a renault.
if your children are too stupid to know that opening a car door at speed is not safe then there is a problem...
furthermore, the day that you can get your kids out of a fire-filled coffin you won't be *****ing..
safety above stupidity
my 2cents
if your children are too stupid to know that opening a car door at speed is not safe then there is a problem...
furthermore, the day that you can get your kids out of a fire-filled coffin you won't be *****ing..
safety above stupidity
my 2cents
And that's my 2 cents
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I think he's right. On my Audi A4 doors will open if you pull twice the handle.
The setting in Audi is better assuming that one may pull accidentally the door handle or gets hooked to it by accident.
Please stop pretending that MB is the GOD of all cars.
You should accept that there are other brands that do some things much better than MB.
The setting in Audi is better assuming that one may pull accidentally the door handle or gets hooked to it by accident.
Please stop pretending that MB is the GOD of all cars.
You should accept that there are other brands that do some things much better than MB.
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child locks
Perhaps you could post a picture of the lock button? Looking in the hole with a light, I see what looks like a mount for it. The item could probably be ordered for retrofit since it would be purely mechanical.
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child safety locks
It surprises that MB North America would delete this safety feature altogether. If ya need anything else let me know.
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Sorry. I can't see what you are referring to. That oblong hole below the door latch is what I was referring to. And the door latch assembly doesn't have anything visible aside from the latch itself.
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In the child lock pic ("That oblong hole below the door latch") you will see a switch at the bottom of the cutout. If that switch is pushed up it activates the child lock and won't allow the door to be opened from the inside whilst the car is moving. As you say it may be able to be purchased and installed, although it looks like it would be a messy job.
I was just browsing thru the Nth American manual and it does not appear that you have the child lock feature. That said you do have a lot more safety features(whether they are all necessary or not is debatable) than we have in Australia and probably in other Global markets.
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I was just browsing thru the Nth American manual and it does not appear that you have the child lock feature. That said you do have a lot more safety features(whether they are all necessary or not is debatable) than we have in Australia and probably in other Global markets.
Cheers
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Strange feature (or lack of) indeed. Maybe we'll see this change come in the 2010s or 2011s. As for now though, just hope people in the back don't pull the door handle. Maybe put up a sign or some caution tape haha.
That being said, for the future...
Don't bring up ANY safety features on this forum, or anything out of the ordinary in general...you will get repeatedly flamed into the ground by rude people hiding behind a computer screen who would never normally have the stones to act like complete *****s to your face.
That being said, for the future...
Don't bring up ANY safety features on this forum, or anything out of the ordinary in general...you will get repeatedly flamed into the ground by rude people hiding behind a computer screen who would never normally have the stones to act like complete *****s to your face.
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Door locking - set to lock on automatic when car pulls away (w204, avant, at, 2009).
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
However, from the inside cabin at back seat (even when 'locked' and driving) doors can still be opened by pulling the interior door latch without unlocking ???? this cannot be a safety feature!
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I'm not sure if this changed from 203 > 204, but on my 203 the REAR doors will NOT open when they are locked unless the door pins are pulled up, or I press unlock, or if a front door is opened -all the doors unlock automatically.
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The operation of the door lock and interior latch release handle are governed in the U.S. by NHTSA regulation. MB may sell the car with or without the same design in other markets. The term "override" means the interior latch release handle unlocking a locked door and opening the latch. It's been a couple of years since I worked with this directly, but as I recall, in the U.S.:
- Rear door interior latch release handles may NOT override
- Driver door interior latch release handle MUST override
- Front passenger interior latch release handle may or may not override at manufacturer's discretion.
Child proofing the rear doors disables the interior latch release regardless of the position of the door lock.
- Rear door interior latch release handles may NOT override
- Driver door interior latch release handle MUST override
- Front passenger interior latch release handle may or may not override at manufacturer's discretion.
Child proofing the rear doors disables the interior latch release regardless of the position of the door lock.
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The operation of the door lock and interior latch release handle are governed in the U.S. by NHTSA regulation. MB may sell the car with or without the same design in other markets. The term "override" means the interior latch release handle unlocking a locked door and opening the latch. It's been a couple of years since I worked with this directly, but as I recall, in the U.S.:
- Rear door interior latch release handles may NOT override
- Driver door interior latch release handle MUST override
- Front passenger interior latch release handle may or may not override at manufacturer's discretion.
Child proofing the rear doors disables the interior latch release regardless of the position of the door lock.
- Rear door interior latch release handles may NOT override
- Driver door interior latch release handle MUST override
- Front passenger interior latch release handle may or may not override at manufacturer's discretion.
Child proofing the rear doors disables the interior latch release regardless of the position of the door lock.
i did not try messing with the child locks...it was 20 degrees outside and i was in shorts and T..
