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I'm looking to put a sub in my C, but I'm not sure what size to go with, a 10" (Jl W3)or 12" (Jl W7). I'm looking for a tight, punchy bass rather than a big, boomy bass.

Anybody that has one of the two sizes please chime in.


Thanks

TB5...

10 will be tighter bass... you will definitely lack the lows.

but the w7 sounds incredible and @ 12" its the perfect balance between low and tight bass... imo

fell in love with it when a heard it a few years back...

the mtx 9500 is another competitor for best 12" i've heard... low as hell and can get that machine gun bass.

imo if you're going 10" get 2

Sully

The JL W6 is the sweet spot in the line. The 10" is capable of getting really low, even in a sealed enclosure.

AkaSigFreak

+1
The W7 is overkill. The W6 is a fantastic overall sub.
Have you considered Image Dynamics? Incredible performance and prices are decent depending on which series you choose.

Norm01

I have the Prowedge 10W6 and it's great, the enclosure also fits perfectly behind the rear seat and under the rear deck, the w7 will not fit there as it is too high. Run this with a JL 500w mono amp and you will be amazed.

whiteongrey

How much was the install + hardware? Any pics?

AkaSigFreak

That is a great sub/amp setup. Great option for people who don't want all the hassle of a custom made box. JL is INCREDIBLE!

myinternetsucks

What I did was this, got a 12 shallow mount in a small ported box. enough to fit the right air size application it calls for and shallow mount so i still got trunk space. the shallow mount hits like a 10" but produces lower notes cause of the size of the speaker. i love it. its perfect.

Norm01

Search this forum, I posted pics for sure. Can't remember the price but I think around $1500 for parts, did the install myself.

rickeddy

Norm, I have a 12w7 prowedge and a 500/1, that I will have professionally installed soon. I have a couple of questions for you:

1) Are you using a cleansweep?
2) If you are not using a cleansweep how does it sound without it? You just use the MM "Bass" controls?
3) If no cleansweep, do you just tap into the sub wire in the trunk amp and its purely a "sub" signal?

Sully

500W isn't enough to get optimal performance from a 12W7. Since it's just for a sub and not a full range signal, you can use something less expensive than a clean sweep. A line out converter would suffice. If you want up front control of the sub then you could get the remote bass control for the 500/1. The amplifier has a built in cross over so that the signal you tap into can be filtered to a sub signal.

delirium

I went to best buy today and told them that i want one 10" sub and they told me two things that i am not sure about:

1. I will need more than just one sub, two 10" subs at a minimum. Reason being that the MB cars are sealed so well that the sound will not make it to the cabin if I just use one 10" sub. I was planning on going with something like one low end 10".

2. They said due to the fact that I have HK in my car, that they will need to remove my factory sub and rewire the whole thing with the new sub. This will add about $200 to the intall price.

I am skeptical to believe them, can anyone please give me some advice?

TIA!

Sully

I'm not sure about one sub not being enough. The only way is to try it, if you're not satisfied then you can add another later on. It's a lot easier to buy another sub from best buy than to try to return one that you bought.

You don't need to remove the HK sub. You just need to disable it. That's as simple as clipping the wires.

OneOfaKindTrini

Jl W7's are untouchable. They dominate, if you can fit a 12in in your w204 it will be worth it.

delirium

I'd really like to save on size, thats why I want one 10" at most... or maybe an efficient 12" if necessary. but just afraid that I wont hear it.

Problem with adding a sub is that I might not have enough power if I buy an amp to power just one sub.

OneOfaKindTrini

W7's are lethal.

delirium

I'm sure they are. I dont want to spend that much $ or take up that much space though. I dont want to shake the entire neighborhood, but just want to add some thump in the cabin of my car.

I used to have an IDMAX 12", pretty lethal too.

Norm01

Why would anyone disable the HK sub?

Just tap into the HK sub high level signal (speaker wire) to feed the JL 500/1.

The reason for the 10w6 prowedge is that it is a perfect fit behind the seat, you would swear it was designed for this car.

Use the JL 500/1 internal crossover and attenuation.

As for not enough bass, let me tell you this sub will pressurize the inside of my car to the point of hurting my ears due to pressure, it's more than enough. If installed properly with a quick disconnect it can be removed in seconds from the trunk.

I previously posted full install instructions with pics on here and wiring information, one thing to note on the HK system, due to the surround 5.1, low bass is filtered to the factory sub, if you use the high level signal from the rear speakers as some have done you will not get the true bass signal, you need to take it from the factory sub. Hope this helps.

myinternetsucks

If anyone cares, here's me... I love my set up, matches perfectly with HK system plus I got a volume knob under the steering wheel that I can dial in how much bass I want for the sub's amp. Still got plenty of trunk space and this speaker shakes the car. its a 12" Carbon Fiber shallow mount Excelon

delirium

I'm still unsure about one or two 10" subs. Or maybe one 12". But can anyone tell me where to tap into HK sub for high level inputs?

delirium

If you need info on how to tap into the high level inputs Norm01 is the man. Look for his posts he has done it before on a HK system.

delirium

cool, where is your amp located?

myinternetsucks

Under the panel you lift to get to the spare. Just off the right side of the tire theres a little space there.

delirium

do those shallow mount subs hit hard & loud? or does it just sort of fill in the deep notes? Ive always wondered about those because I would think that they are sort of weak since they dont have big magnets & take up so little air space...

myinternetsucks

It sounds loud enough for me and it shakes the car. It sounds and hits like a 10" sub, but has a lower pitch deeper, like a 12". its small enough to be outta the way and I wanted to have trunk space and not sacrifice the whole trunk for speakers since I usually have my skateboard or stuff in my trunk all the time. But the speaker soaks up a lot of power, dont be fooled by its shallow size the magnet on this thing huge, its just reconstructed and spread out the width of the speaker a little more. small but mighty!



I know its no W7, but thats not what I was going for. To me its a perfect match!