Production & Assembly question
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2010 C300 6 Speed M/T
Thanks Sportstick, it is a small world... I think had Ford been able to call the car Sierra here (think GMC owned it in the USA) it might have been a hit. Unrelated to this thread, and without searching if there are posts about it already, what do you make of the gear "suggestions" in the dash? It apparently does not take into consideration if you are going up hill for example and of course it doesn't know what traffic is like ahead of you :-) I believe it's suggestions are based on fuel economy. Do you find yourself upshifting more than you would on your own? Do you skip gears if you are in 3rd and it suggests 6th? Just curious. Since the car is so quiet, as opposed to my Civic Si, it's harder to tell if am straining the engine if I'm a tad too slow to be in a higher gear. Does your car also sound kind of "wheezy" in first gear? 2nd gear is a lot "smoother"
Thanks RLE, I feel better and better about my decision. But unless a car is constantly in the shop I am not really concerned with reliability (well I don't want the car to break down anywhere of course) since I only lease and usually the first 3 years are fine no matter how crappy the car's engineering is...
Thanks RLE, I feel better and better about my decision. But unless a car is constantly in the shop I am not really concerned with reliability (well I don't want the car to break down anywhere of course) since I only lease and usually the first 3 years are fine no matter how crappy the car's engineering is...
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Thanks Sportstick, it is a small world... I think had Ford been able to call the car Sierra here (think GMC owned it in the USA) it might have been a hit. Unrelated to this thread, and without searching if there are posts about it already, what do you make of the gear "suggestions" in the dash? It apparently does not take into consideration if you are going up hill for example and of course it doesn't know what traffic is like ahead of you :-) I believe it's suggestions are based on fuel economy. Do you find yourself upshifting more than you would on your own? Do you skip gears if you are in 3rd and it suggests 6th? Just curious. Since the car is so quiet, as opposed to my Civic Si, it's harder to tell if am straining the engine if I'm a tad too slow to be in a higher gear. Does your car also sound kind of "wheezy" in first gear? 2nd gear is a lot "smoother"
Thanks RLE, I feel better and better about my decision. But unless a car is constantly in the shop I am not really concerned with reliability (well I don't want the car to break down anywhere of course) since I only lease and usually the first 3 years are fine no matter how crappy the car's engineering is...
Thanks RLE, I feel better and better about my decision. But unless a car is constantly in the shop I am not really concerned with reliability (well I don't want the car to break down anywhere of course) since I only lease and usually the first 3 years are fine no matter how crappy the car's engineering is...
As for C Class manual shifting, I do not have an upshift light. So, I make it up as I go. The broad relatively flat torque curve is very handy and forgiving. Yes, I do skip gears as best suits the situation. Once on the highway, I can go from 4th to 6th. 6th to 3rd downshifts are fun and work well too... a chance to show the benefits of double-clutching to the young ones Nothing wheezy in first....my main complaint has been a shudder at launch, overcome by higher revs than any other stick I've ever driven. You will feel lugging if you drop the revs too far....try it once just to confirm the sound, but don't make it a habit! Take a high gear at very low speed, and just gently lean into the throttle....you'll feel a slight vibration with the lack of response....DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!!
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All I know is that most 4-5 year old E classes are in great condition re wear and tear overall condition while MLs are ready for the scrap heap.
I hope MB is successful - but I will never buy a USA made German car. Most people, like the guy I know, will never even know - they just assume it's made in Germany LOL.
I hope MB is successful - but I will never buy a USA made German car. Most people, like the guy I know, will never even know - they just assume it's made in Germany LOL.
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...ssover-and-suv
How well it holds up over the years depends on how well the guys in Stuttgart did their work.
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2010 C300 6 Speed M/T
Thanks for your post, very interesting story behind the Merkur name, not only was it silly and redundant under the Mercury brand but also difficult to figure out the correct pronunciation...
Regarding the m/t, my 2010 m/t C300 doesn't have a upshift light but in the center of the speedometer the LCD will show an arrow with the recommended gear to upshift (only, it does not recommend a downshift gear when the car slows down...). Yours does not have that? Of course I don't really need it to know when an upshift is needed but it's curious that it recommends upshifts at much lower RPM's than I would chose. I believe it's recommendations are based on economy and min RPM's so as not to bog the engine down.
Regarding the m/t, my 2010 m/t C300 doesn't have a upshift light but in the center of the speedometer the LCD will show an arrow with the recommended gear to upshift (only, it does not recommend a downshift gear when the car slows down...). Yours does not have that? Of course I don't really need it to know when an upshift is needed but it's curious that it recommends upshifts at much lower RPM's than I would chose. I believe it's recommendations are based on economy and min RPM's so as not to bog the engine down.
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Thanks for your post, very interesting story behind the Merkur name, not only was it silly and redundant under the Mercury brand but also difficult to figure out the correct pronunciation...
Regarding the m/t, my 2010 m/t C300 doesn't have a upshift light but in the center of the speedometer the LCD will show an arrow with the recommended gear to upshift (only, it does not recommend a downshift gear when the car slows down...). Yours does not have that? Of course I don't really need it to know when an upshift is needed but it's curious that it recommends upshifts at much lower RPM's than I would chose. I believe it's recommendations are based on economy and min RPM's so as not to bog the engine down.
Regarding the m/t, my 2010 m/t C300 doesn't have a upshift light but in the center of the speedometer the LCD will show an arrow with the recommended gear to upshift (only, it does not recommend a downshift gear when the car slows down...). Yours does not have that? Of course I don't really need it to know when an upshift is needed but it's curious that it recommends upshifts at much lower RPM's than I would chose. I believe it's recommendations are based on economy and min RPM's so as not to bog the engine down.