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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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supercharger or turbo ???

hey there, i have a 2009 c3oo, i like the car but i hate how slow it is. Are there any companies that make a supercharger or turbo kit for the c class. thanks
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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As far as I know there isn't enough room to do it and I havnt seen or heard of anyone doing it . If you want more power you can always do work to your exhaust and maybe a tune . Supercharger would be great though .
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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this video needs a lot more info... that sounded great and looks like it made some decent power too.
Wonder what they can do for the 300 owners out there
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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I dont see anything on the site except high flow cats and ecu tune .
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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yeah they need more info on the c on youtube vid! maybe there still doing R&D on it?

oh wait i found a cheap set up hahaha
http://www.superchargertuning.com/Me...-Benz/C+Class/
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Remote turbo. It can be done.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Whats a remote turbo ?
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Remote turbo is when the turbo in not located in the engine bay (like most factory turbos are). Instead it is usually placed in the rear under the trunk or under the car along the exhaust lines.

Supercharger is out unless you modify the hood, and turbo would have to be a custom job, no kits available that I know of, meaning it would cost you a pretty penny.

Judging from that Youtube video, the turbo kit looks like remote installation among the exhaust. You can tell the stock exhaust piping hasn't been used and/or has been modified. The tips are too close to the diffuser and are almost level, that is not how it was from factory.

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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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The STS universal kit is looking pretty tasty, and it doesn't carry a hefty price tag either. I wonder if they used pieces off of that kit to get any inspiration for the 350 in the video.
I think our biggest issue would be ECU management, have to get in with a hands on tuner to manage some of the new air/fuel ratios the turbos may introduce, and manage some of the compression too.
If I had extra time (and green backs) I'd try this out. It seems pretty feasible for success, that youtube vid a few posts up is a huge inspiration for me.
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Certainly is tempting , I wind if there is much more turbo lag this way
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Certainly is tempting , I wonder if there is much more turbo lag this way . Perhaps the eurocharged video was just showing their tune in conjunction with another companies turbo .
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Srygot double post I'm using my phone
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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Certainly is tempting , I wonder if there is much more turbo lag this way . Perhaps the eurocharged video was just showing their tune in conjunction with another companies turbo .
On a C6 vette there was only 1 psi loss from the very rear of the car to the front bumper where they had an intercooler.
In turn, you have no worry of under hood temps putting strain on the turbo. At roughly 500* cooler, the 1psi loss is relative to if the turbo were under the hood.
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I think this is lookin more promising, we even have the option for twins
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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This is ru starting to sound good , I sent eurocharged an email asking for info . How much foes this usually cost ?
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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An STS universal single kit runs 1900 and twins go for just about 3 grand.
But those kits require a lot of time to install considering they come as just pieces and you have to fab all the piping yourself.
On the other hand, if you got specific turbo(s) and built it yourself, I don't see where you couldn't get into this project for around $1500. But it'll take some work to complete.
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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I wonder how difficult this would be to have it fabricated at a good shop .
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Make sure it can be done with the high compression ratio of the C300 engine. I'd be interested in that information.
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Parts Cost
Garrett T4/60-1 Turbocharger $830
Custom turbo up pipe $500
3AN oil feed $13.00
10AN Oil Drain $18
3AN oil feed line - 28" $21
10AN oil Drain - 24" $15
10AN straight fitting $7
10AN 45 fitting $13
10AN to 1/2 NPT fitting $9.75
12x1.5mm fitting $25
2.5" I/C piping kit $93
3.25 to 2.5 coupler $26
TiAl 38mm Wastegate and BOV $434
Garrett 400hp Intercooler $470
Bosch 440cc injectors x6 $38
Down pipe flange kit $34
AEM F/IC-6 $362
Wideband O2 Gauge and Sensor $178

Complete Total $3,086

Always been on my schedule to turbo her once warranty expires.

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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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DIY C350 Turbo

Parts Cost
Garrett T4/60-1 Turbocharger $830
Custom turbo up pipe $500
3AN oil feed $13.00
10AN Oil Drain $18
3AN oil feed line - 28" $21
10AN oil Drain - 24" $15
10AN straight fitting $7
10AN 45 fitting $13
10AN to 1/2 NPT fitting $9.75
12x1.5mm fitting $25
2.5" I/C piping kit $93
3.25 to 2.5 coupler $26
TiAl 38mm Wastegate and BOV $434
Garrett 400hp Intercooler $470
Bosch 440cc injectors x6 $38
Down pipe flange kit $34
AEM F/IC-6 $362
Wideband O2 Gauge and Sensor $178

Complete Total $3,086

Always been on my schedule to turbo her once warranty expires.

so., is this the cost for remote turbo..?? sry., i know nothin abt turbo.. is the ecu remappin for turbo is gonna erase the ecu tune..?? how much power gain can i get for a set up like this.. how much the labor is gonna cost..?? sry for the dumb questions...
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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so., is this the cost for remote turbo..?? sry., i know nothin abt turbo.. is the ecu remappin for turbo is gonna erase the ecu tune..?? how much power gain can i get for a set up like this.. how much the labor is gonna cost..?? sry for the dumb questions...
the correct term to put it, is that you will need to update your ecu, in perfect world, for every power modifications you did you should update your ecu to suit, therefore yes, u will erase ur current ecu tune, and yes, you cannot keep your current ecu settings, unless you got for like 0.05 psi :P
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sorry an old thread but

a compant that does em STS Turbo Systems
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Azn_C300
DIY C350 Turbo

Parts Cost
Garrett T4/60-1 Turbocharger $830
Custom turbo up pipe $500
3AN oil feed $13.00
10AN Oil Drain $18
3AN oil feed line - 28" $21
10AN oil Drain - 24" $15
10AN straight fitting $7
10AN 45 fitting $13
10AN to 1/2 NPT fitting $9.75
12x1.5mm fitting $25
2.5" I/C piping kit $93
3.25 to 2.5 coupler $26
TiAl 38mm Wastegate and BOV $434
Garrett 400hp Intercooler $470
Bosch 440cc injectors x6 $38
Down pipe flange kit $34
AEM F/IC-6 $362
Wideband O2 Gauge and Sensor $178

Complete Total $3,086

Always been on my schedule to turbo her once warranty expires.

Whatsup Mikee, i wanna see this happen! At least i have your cell so you can take me for a ride when its done. haha Let me know if i can help im no stranger to the turbo game!

Im think youre going to need a few more necessary items to complete a custom turbo setup:
-intake for the turbo
-fuel pump
-fuel pressure regulator
-ecu and tuning
-and you need that custom intercooler piping made, and anytime you have mandrel bent aluminum piping, its gonna cost a fortune.


I think youre gonna need bigger injectors then that for any boosted setup. Especially if you run a t4 60-1, that sized turbo youre going to have to push at least 12-17 psi to be anywhere near the efficiency range, so you will forsure need bigger injectors to supply fuel for all that boost you have to make. If youre not in the right efficiency range for the turbo, ur turbos just too big for your setup and it would actually hurt your potential horspower vs. running a smaller turbo more suitable for your engine. Also depending on your a/r exhaust housing size you could even have major boost lag.

If you still went with that t4, at that psi, i think youre lookin at a lot more stuff, like a full rebuild, lower compression pistons etc.
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