H&R supersports on stock rims
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Who installed the springs? Did you realign the car? I want to drop mine by an inch for better handling and then install a bigger sway bar. However, when I spoke to my alignment guy today, he said don't do it - there are no adjustments on camber - or anything else. The stock set up already gives -1.6 camber and if you drop it from OEM, you'll go further (tire cupping and excessive wear, oversteer). To me, this is tough to believe. If its true, then these are truly grocery carts and not performance cars. You need to make adjustments when you modify/improve.
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Who installed the springs? Did you realign the car? I want to drop mine by an inch for better handling and then install a bigger sway bar. However, when I spoke to my alignment guy today, he said don't do it - there are no adjustments on camber - or anything else. The stock set up already gives -1.6 camber and if you drop it from OEM, you'll go further (tire cupping and excessive wear, oversteer). To me, this is tough to believe. If its true, then these are truly grocery carts and not performance cars. You need to make adjustments when you modify/improve.
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I've actually been meaning to find a good place for an alignment once I get my car back. Michael! Care to chime in? Somewhere in the OC would be nice if you have any recommendations :]
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Whatever you decide about springs, I can strongly endorse doing the Eibach front and rear antisway bar kit upgrade. Results are excellent, crisper steering response, and, of course, much more roll resistance for stable performance through corners, and ride comfort is maintained. I have not and don't plan to touch the springs...I found the best balance for me.
does this even make sense?
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tirerack.com sells the kit with front and rear bars included. I paid $450. The front bar is a quick and easy install. The rear was about 3 hours, requiring dropping exhaust, calipers, and slightly loosening the rear subframe to get the old bar out and new one in. But, from the first drive on, I think the smile on your face will let you know it was worth it! I've admitted this before, but we have a few new roundabout intersections here, and sometimes I go around a couple of times before exiting just for the fun of it now.
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From: Brooks, GA
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Whatever you decide about springs, I can strongly endorse doing the Eibach front and rear antisway bar kit upgrade. Results are excellent, crisper steering response, and, of course, much more roll resistance for stable performance through corners, and ride comfort is maintained. I have not and don't plan to touch the springs...I found the best balance for me.
I still might do the sway bar thing, but I hate to think about installing the rear set on this car.
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The rear definitely requires time, patience, skill, and experience, so I had my indy shop do it!! I called Eibach and Tire Rack to be sure the installation couldn't just work as a cross-car extraction and reinstallation through the wheel well. Physics, being what it is, just won't cooperate. They all agreed the sub-frame had to be loosened, which required all the previous steps.
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Sorry for continuing to derail the topic, but after reading 930Pilot and Sportstick's comments, I looked into sway bars as well and found an earlier thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...sway-bars.html
I live in Cleveland, Ohio, and my C300S4M is my daily driver, which includes in the winters here. Lowering it may become a big concern when the snow is piled high, so sway bars seem like a superior option for improving handling without that risk?
Although I may end up doing both in the long run, I will only be able to consider one in the short term. Does having new sway bars on stock springs handle better than stock bars and a SuperSport suspension? There is also a significant cost difference after labor costs are involved, correct?
I live in Cleveland, Ohio, and my C300S4M is my daily driver, which includes in the winters here. Lowering it may become a big concern when the snow is piled high, so sway bars seem like a superior option for improving handling without that risk?
Although I may end up doing both in the long run, I will only be able to consider one in the short term. Does having new sway bars on stock springs handle better than stock bars and a SuperSport suspension? There is also a significant cost difference after labor costs are involved, correct?
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Another round of ICE
Sorry for continuing to derail the topic, but after reading 930Pilot and Sportstick's comments, I looked into sway bars as well and found an earlier thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...sway-bars.html
I live in Cleveland, Ohio, and my C300S4M is my daily driver, which includes in the winters here. Lowering it may become a big concern when the snow is piled high, so sway bars seem like a superior option for improving handling without that risk?
Although I may end up doing both in the long run, I will only be able to consider one in the short term. Does having new sway bars on stock springs handle better than stock bars and a SuperSport suspension? There is also a significant cost difference after labor costs are involved, correct?
I live in Cleveland, Ohio, and my C300S4M is my daily driver, which includes in the winters here. Lowering it may become a big concern when the snow is piled high, so sway bars seem like a superior option for improving handling without that risk?
Although I may end up doing both in the long run, I will only be able to consider one in the short term. Does having new sway bars on stock springs handle better than stock bars and a SuperSport suspension? There is also a significant cost difference after labor costs are involved, correct?
Figure about 4 hours total for front and rear at whatever your shop charges...around here, it's $95/hour at our indy shop. If you don't have someone reliable in Cleveland, Detroit is just about a 3 hour ride and MotorWerks in Commerce is outstanding! Ask for Shaj to do the work, who did mine, and is an outstanding tech.
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Who installed the springs? Did you realign the car? I want to drop mine by an inch for better handling and then install a bigger sway bar. However, when I spoke to my alignment guy today, he said don't do it - there are no adjustments on camber - or anything else. The stock set up already gives -1.6 camber and if you drop it from OEM, you'll go further (tire cupping and excessive wear, oversteer). To me, this is tough to believe. If its true, then these are truly grocery carts and not performance cars. You need to make adjustments when you modify/improve.
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08 C300
I know its only been a couple days but has it settle any more ? I am do for a drop on my car and am really indecisive about which springs to get HR SS or B&G.. I want the most DROP possible from springs.
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yeah dropped a little more Id say Hr ss on my part their great but idk b&G from what I do know Is ss is more of a drop and b&G right between ss and s well what I heard anyways
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but when my tires wear out i get new rims so .... you know the drill hahahahahhaha
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Lucky. Haha. But seeing as I just got new rears not that long ago and I JUST got a new one too because one of em caught fire, I'd want to savor the new tire while I have it. Which means I'd better start browsing for a good shop that does work on lowered cars.
