2012 C250
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First, allow me to say that your work is incredible! I'm super stoaked about the possibilities you guys might come up with. What are your thoughts about meth on a tuned c250, and what do you think the yields would be with cat delete?
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Has been tested on a C200CGI and on this car it has +13hp
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Twin turbo
Sorry guys. The C250 CDI is a twin turbo, not the gas engine C250 CGI. My mistake!!!
#30
Thanks.. There is some potential there but the main issue is the small turbo and weak supporting hardware. That limits the benefit of say methanol injection. A cat delete/downpipe should work wonders, but at the moment we're focused on the easy stuff. Stage1 tuning.
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Check the Brabus website, perhaps the latest chips and performance boosts on a dyno are now available for the C250 CDI. Some of the past improvements were very impressive, 50 HP and more torque.
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I apologize, having read thread #27 with its CDI link.
At the San Diego Auto Show a few days ago, a surprise was the new 2012 BMW 528i sedan with a 2.0L 4 cylinder twin turbo, which replaces the inline 6, now history. 240 HP and 260 lb-ft torque. About 10% more than the C250 I4.
However the new 5 weighs about 200 lbs more than the previous, at 3800 lbs. Even so BMW claims the 0 to 60 will be around 0.4 seconds faster than the six cylinder 2011 528i. Read low 6 seconds here.
Walking around the Auto Show and lusting after the 400 Hp and up models, after filling up the gas tank of my V12, this new "less is more" philosophy is beginning to convince me. As we will soon see $6, $10 and even higher gasoline prices per US gallon, perhaps the next car purchase will be one that averages 28 MPG city+hwy or above.
As for performance improvement, after following the i4 C250 for about a year, to date I havent seen any significant hardware or software upgrades. Much the same as the 3.0L engine it replaces, which also resists tuning and intake efforts.
Those wishing better acceleration should opt for the C350 while they are still produced, as the new 3.5L CGI will probably also be the last of the medium-sized naturally-aspirated MB engines. AMG may figure a way to shoehorn-in the 5.5L twin turbo into the W204 or upcoming W205, so say goodbye to the 6.3 also.
At the San Diego Auto Show a few days ago, a surprise was the new 2012 BMW 528i sedan with a 2.0L 4 cylinder twin turbo, which replaces the inline 6, now history. 240 HP and 260 lb-ft torque. About 10% more than the C250 I4.
However the new 5 weighs about 200 lbs more than the previous, at 3800 lbs. Even so BMW claims the 0 to 60 will be around 0.4 seconds faster than the six cylinder 2011 528i. Read low 6 seconds here.
Walking around the Auto Show and lusting after the 400 Hp and up models, after filling up the gas tank of my V12, this new "less is more" philosophy is beginning to convince me. As we will soon see $6, $10 and even higher gasoline prices per US gallon, perhaps the next car purchase will be one that averages 28 MPG city+hwy or above.
As for performance improvement, after following the i4 C250 for about a year, to date I havent seen any significant hardware or software upgrades. Much the same as the 3.0L engine it replaces, which also resists tuning and intake efforts.
Those wishing better acceleration should opt for the C350 while they are still produced, as the new 3.5L CGI will probably also be the last of the medium-sized naturally-aspirated MB engines. AMG may figure a way to shoehorn-in the 5.5L twin turbo into the W204 or upcoming W205, so say goodbye to the 6.3 also.
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I apologize, having read thread #27 with its CDI link.
At the San Diego Auto Show a few days ago, a surprise was the new 2012 BMW 528i sedan with a 2.0L 4 cylinder twin turbo, which replaces the inline 6, now history. 240 HP and 260 lb-ft torque. About 10% more than the C250 I4.
However the new 5 weighs about 200 lbs more than the previous, at 3800 lbs. Even so BMW claims the 0 to 60 will be around 0.4 seconds faster than the six cylinder 2011 528i. Read low 6 seconds here.
Walking around the Auto Show and lusting after the 400 Hp and up models, after filling up the gas tank of my V12, this new "less is more" philosophy is beginning to convince me. As we will soon see $6, $10 and even higher gasoline prices per US gallon, perhaps the next car purchase will be one that averages 28 MPG city+hwy or above.
As for performance improvement, after following the i4 C250 for about a year, to date I havent seen any significant hardware or software upgrades. Much the same as the 3.0L engine it replaces, which also resists tuning and intake efforts.
Those wishing better acceleration should opt for the C350 while they are still produced, as the new 3.5L CGI will probably also be the last of the medium-sized naturally-aspirated MB engines. AMG may figure a way to shoehorn-in the 5.5L twin turbo into the W204 or upcoming W205, so say goodbye to the 6.3 also.
At the San Diego Auto Show a few days ago, a surprise was the new 2012 BMW 528i sedan with a 2.0L 4 cylinder twin turbo, which replaces the inline 6, now history. 240 HP and 260 lb-ft torque. About 10% more than the C250 I4.
However the new 5 weighs about 200 lbs more than the previous, at 3800 lbs. Even so BMW claims the 0 to 60 will be around 0.4 seconds faster than the six cylinder 2011 528i. Read low 6 seconds here.
Walking around the Auto Show and lusting after the 400 Hp and up models, after filling up the gas tank of my V12, this new "less is more" philosophy is beginning to convince me. As we will soon see $6, $10 and even higher gasoline prices per US gallon, perhaps the next car purchase will be one that averages 28 MPG city+hwy or above.
As for performance improvement, after following the i4 C250 for about a year, to date I havent seen any significant hardware or software upgrades. Much the same as the 3.0L engine it replaces, which also resists tuning and intake efforts.
Those wishing better acceleration should opt for the C350 while they are still produced, as the new 3.5L CGI will probably also be the last of the medium-sized naturally-aspirated MB engines. AMG may figure a way to shoehorn-in the 5.5L twin turbo into the W204 or upcoming W205, so say goodbye to the 6.3 also.
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Surely there are many serious companies attempting to boost HP from this new generation of inline 4's. However the question still if there will be a SIGNIFICANT improvement in performance?
One of Brabus' solutions to the 3.5L V6 was to just bore it larger and redo the heads, as this and the 3.0L engines (basically the same) refused improvement. In the end the Brabus C cost nearly the C63. Of course with additional suspension and cosmetic changes.
Hopefully reasonable solutions will be offered and evaluated for the C250 CGI.
One of Brabus' solutions to the 3.5L V6 was to just bore it larger and redo the heads, as this and the 3.0L engines (basically the same) refused improvement. In the end the Brabus C cost nearly the C63. Of course with additional suspension and cosmetic changes.
Hopefully reasonable solutions will be offered and evaluated for the C250 CGI.
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Surely there are many serious companies attempting to boost HP from this new generation of inline 4's. However the question still if there will be a SIGNIFICANT improvement in performance?
One of Brabus' solutions to the 3.5L V6 was to just bore it larger and redo the heads, as this and the 3.0L engines (basically the same) refused improvement. In the end the Brabus C cost nearly the C63. Of course with additional suspension and cosmetic changes.
Hopefully reasonable solutions will be offered and evaluated for the C250 CGI.
One of Brabus' solutions to the 3.5L V6 was to just bore it larger and redo the heads, as this and the 3.0L engines (basically the same) refused improvement. In the end the Brabus C cost nearly the C63. Of course with additional suspension and cosmetic changes.
Hopefully reasonable solutions will be offered and evaluated for the C250 CGI.
#40
Anyway, as I'm sure you already know we offer the C250 Stage1 tuning, and also a C250 performance intake.