Aren't 4MATIC's supposed to have NON-staggered wheels, well mine doesn't...
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Aren't 4MATIC's supposed to have NON-staggered wheels, well mine doesn't...
I thought that 4MATICs were supposed to have all equal wheel sizes (17x7.5), but mine has staggered wheels R:17x8.5 F:17x7.5
Is this weird? I doubt highly (knowing the history of the car) that these are not the originals.
Is this weird? I doubt highly (knowing the history of the car) that these are not the originals.
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I just checked out the MBUSA web site and the new 2012 C300 4MATIC Sport also shows staggered wheels. Hotel, what is the basis for your technical concern? MB seems to feel confident in offering the staggered setup for Sport AWD models. Wouldn't the issue be the similarity front to rear of the outer diameters, and not a modest increase in tire width which does not impact speed of rotation?
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I just checked out the MBUSA web site and the new 2012 C300 4MATIC Sport also shows staggered wheels. Hotel, what is the basis for your technical concern? MB seems to feel confident in offering the staggered setup for Sport AWD models. Wouldn't the issue be the similarity front to rear of the outer diameters, and not a modest increase in tire width which does not impact speed of rotation?
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The brochure must be a mistake. Maybe it was printed first and realized later that they'd stick with staggered for 4M.
It's nice to know that staggered wheels are okay on 4Ms, although they probably offer no benefit as they would on a RWD car, just maker it harder in the snow. Could you put non-staggered wheels on? Probably cause the luxury has them.
Taken from the 2008 brochure: http://www.ragtop.org/mbbrochures/2008/csportclass.pdf
The bottom is the wheel info:
It's nice to know that staggered wheels are okay on 4Ms, although they probably offer no benefit as they would on a RWD car, just maker it harder in the snow. Could you put non-staggered wheels on? Probably cause the luxury has them.
Taken from the 2008 brochure: http://www.ragtop.org/mbbrochures/2008/csportclass.pdf
The bottom is the wheel info:
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Hard to reconcile the conflilct between the sources, but I see the problem you are highlighting. Go to the mbusa.com website to see the other answer presented!
Yes, you can use non-staggered wheel/tire units of the same O.D., and, for snow tires, you should go no larger than 17".
Yes, you can use non-staggered wheel/tire units of the same O.D., and, for snow tires, you should go no larger than 17".
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I am pretty sure the difference lies in region. I know in 2008 the C 4matics came w NON staggered, remembered checking them out in the dealership when I almost bought one, thankfully I went w C350 RWD. BUT in canada they offer staggered setups on their 4matics. Most North American cars in AWD have non stagerred setups, its quite rare to see staggered OEM AWD cars....
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I am pretty sure the difference lies in region. I know in 2008 the C 4matics came w NON staggered, remembered checking them out in the dealership when I almost bought one, thankfully I went w C350 RWD. BUT in canada they offer staggered setups on their 4matics. Most North American cars in AWD have non stagerred setups, its quite rare to see staggered OEM AWD cars....
mine is 08 c350 4matic in Canada and came with stock staggered setup
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I don't know I'm kinda confused, the above posters are saying that North American 4MATIC cars have the non-staggered wheels except in Canada but Sportstick maintains that 4MATIC Sport models here in the US have staggered wheels who I humbly side with only because I have a North American Sport 4MATIC with staggered wheels, and the owners manual further proves it.
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maybe im wrong but I think the wheels are the same size. I doubt if you have a 4matic and different tire size and profile that you have same whee width front and rear. The factory usually goes very safe on tire sizes, they go anti stretch. Usually a 8.5 18" wheel gets a 255, thats what most run on a 9.5 inch rear, they dont want u to curb ur wheels so they go for safe usually not performance
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I don't know I'm kinda confused, the above posters are saying that North American 4MATIC cars have the non-staggered wheels except in Canada but Sportstick maintains that 4MATIC Sport models here in the US have staggered wheels who I humbly side with only because I have a North American Sport 4MATIC with staggered wheels, and the owners manual further proves it.
Wouldn't just reading the O.E. tire size on the sidewall should answer the question?
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I think that's dumb to put on the same size wheel. Don't you agree?
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225/45-17 overall diameter= 24.97 inches; circumference= 78.44 inches
245/40-17 overall diameter= 24.71 inches; circumference= 77.62 inches
Apparently, MB has concluded that these differences are minimal enough not to be an issue for a staggered setup.
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the critical factor is rolling circumference. cruise control, braking, etc all feed
into the processor. so it is important that the revolutions per mile (etc) all
be within critical specifications.
it *is* possible to have staggered rims, however upon careful selection and
balance of select tires, and that they have rolling measures within the
allowable window of measure.
into the processor. so it is important that the revolutions per mile (etc) all
be within critical specifications.
it *is* possible to have staggered rims, however upon careful selection and
balance of select tires, and that they have rolling measures within the
allowable window of measure.
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I have a 2009 and 2011 c300 4matic, both have staggered rims oem. I have replaced my 2009 thought with aftermarket non-staggered rims to allow me to rotate though... (These are North-American).
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does anyone know what the allowable difference is from the MB Factory?
I'm trying to decide on a staggered set up for my ML 4matic..
my difference from front to rear in diameter are 29 (295/30/22) front vs. 29.2 (305/30/22) rear.
This results in a 1.007 difference. An earlier example from the factory staggered setup is a 1.011 difference.
But I would really like to learn what is built in from the factory.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks,
I'm trying to decide on a staggered set up for my ML 4matic..
my difference from front to rear in diameter are 29 (295/30/22) front vs. 29.2 (305/30/22) rear.
This results in a 1.007 difference. An earlier example from the factory staggered setup is a 1.011 difference.
But I would really like to learn what is built in from the factory.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks,
