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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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NEW W204 TAIL LIGHTS

Came across this and i was wondering if they will work properly here in the us because the price of two is the cost of one here at the dealer i asked they go for $360 + tax each tail light. if anyone has any knowledge about this it would be nice to share.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/ORIGINAL-MERC...item3f121b8ac1

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ORIGINAL MERCEDES W204 REAR LIGHTS SET NEW!
Taillights must be coded
(SDN CODING)
Coding can be used in any Mercedes Benz dealer will be made

MERCEDES C CLASS BRAKE LIGHTS ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT
including bulb holder
RATES NUMBER 204 820 54 64-204820 27 64

USED ​​IN VEHICLES
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 06:06 PM
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That vendor is selling units that have been invalidated by the manufacturer and are not fully functional (several German buyers received lights that had the fog light LEDs removed/never installed). Of course I can't attest to whether this is true for every shipment from this seller, but I would definitely be careful. The usual rule of thumb seems to apply here: if a deal is too good to be true, it is (directly from the dealer they are 400€ a pair in Germany).

And, although it has already been said a thousand times: The necessary coding can NOT be done by MB dealerships.

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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hannes
That vendor is selling units that have been invalidated by the manufacturer and are not fully functional (several German buyers received lights that had the fog light LEDs removed/never installed). Of course I can't attest to whether this is true for every shipment from this seller, but I would definitely be careful. The usual rule of thumb seems to apply here: if a deal is too good to be true, it is (directly from the dealer they are 400€ a pair in Germany).

And, although it has already been said a thousand times: The necessary coding can NOT be done by MB dealerships.
I have a price quote from MBenzNL in The Netherlands for a pair of Euro versions (yellow LED turn lights instead of red) for 400 Euros which includes shipping.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hannes
That vendor is selling units that have been invalidated by the manufacturer and are not fully functional (several German buyers received lights that had the fog light LEDs removed/never installed). Of course I can't attest to whether this is true for every shipment from this seller, but I would definitely be careful. The usual rule of thumb seems to apply here: if a deal is too good to be true, it is (directly from the dealer they are 400€ a pair in Germany).

And, although it has already been said a thousand times: The necessary coding can NOT be done by MB dealerships.
Ouch, i bought a pair from this seller, but mine is a german version on Dominican Republic, hope it might work.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hannes
That vendor is selling units that have been invalidated by the manufacturer and are not fully functional (several German buyers received lights that had the fog light LEDs removed/never installed). Of course I can't attest to whether this is true for every shipment from this seller, but I would definitely be careful. The usual rule of thumb seems to apply here: if a deal is too good to be true, it is (directly from the dealer they are 400€ a pair in Germany).

And, although it has already been said a thousand times: The necessary coding can NOT be done by MB dealerships.
I thought the rear fog light was still a bulb even on the 2012s? Not sure to be honest...
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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I thought the rear fog light was still a bulb even on the 2012s? Not sure to be honest...
The rear fog consists of four LEDS at the top of the assembly. Stays on when rear SAM recoding is not done along with other lights at lower voltage which is the reason for recoding.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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I took a quick look at the wiring harness on the new facelifted c63 tail lights and at first glance, it looks like the connectors are different so might not be a simple plug and play.

Everything is LED except the reverse lights which is a single 1156 bulb still.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 12:31 PM
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Brake lights aren't LED either (a bit weird, but oh well...). As already stated by RLE, the fog light is a row of LEDs at the top of the unit. Both left and right units have them, but if properly programmed, only the driver's side fog light should illuminate. If not programmed, in addition to the fog lights being on all the time, the brake light will also be activated continuously at limited output. The wiring fits without any changes, but due to the necessary programming it is basically "plug, but not play" .

In addition to the missing LED's, the units that surfaced in Germany from this vendor also had the manufacturer/Mercedes signs removed. Once again, of course I can't say whether this affects all units sold by this vendor, or whether he himself was just the victim of a bad batch. If you are going forward with purchasing from there – or have already done so – be sure to carefully inspect the lights and see whether you received a fully functional unit with Mercedes logos and all the regulatory writing intact.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hannes
Brake lights aren't LED either (a bit weird, but oh well...). As already stated by RLE, the fog light is a row of LEDs at the top of the unit. Both left and right units have them, but if properly programmed, only the driver's side fog light should illuminate. If not programmed, in addition to the fog lights being on all the time, the brake light will also be activated continuously at limited output. The wiring fits without any changes, but due to the necessary programming it is basically "plug, but not play" .

In addition to the missing LED's, the units that surfaced in Germany from this vendor also had the manufacturer/Mercedes signs removed. Once again, of course I can't say whether this affects all units sold by this vendor, or whether he himself was just the victim of a bad batch. If you are going forward with purchasing from there – or have already done so – be sure to carefully inspect the lights and see whether you received a fully functional unit with Mercedes logos and all the regulatory writing intact.
Right yeah, brake lights also aren't LED and are standard 1156 bayonets as well. To me, it seems like Mercedes kind of half-assed it. If you went to the trouble of redesigning these tail lights to be LED, why not just finish it and have the three remaining halogen bulbs also LED so you have a fully LED unit.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 05:11 AM
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This was posted over in the thread in the C63 section. (https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...fit-diy-7.html) The thread there is much more detailed and should apply directly to the non-AMG W204s as well.

Apparently they contacted this seller who made the control unit that would allow the new LED Tails to be retrofitted, however, this control unit applies only to the Euro LED tail light models (yellow turn signals, LED fog on the right side) as opposed to the US spec versions (red turn signals, LED fog on the left). I'm still following this too as I'd be happy to have this as my next project.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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I'm just gonna wait for the aftermarket ones that are half the price and plug and play. I'm sure they'll be on ebay in a couple months.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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I just got em from the dealer with my connects for wholesale price
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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To me, it seems like Mercedes kind of half-assed it. If you went to the trouble of redesigning these tail lights to be LED, why not just finish it and have the three remaining halogen bulbs also LED so you have a fully LED unit.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by snarlingchicken
http://ameblo.jp/prostuff/theme-10012057912.html

This was posted over in the thread in the C63 section. (https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...fit-diy-7.html) The thread there is much more detailed and should apply directly to the non-AMG W204s as well.

Apparently they contacted this seller who made the control unit that would allow the new LED Tails to be retrofitted, however, this control unit applies only to the Euro LED tail light models (yellow turn signals, LED fog on the right side) as opposed to the US spec versions (red turn signals, LED fog on the left). I'm still following this too as I'd be happy to have this as my next project.

There's also the issue with the driver side rear fogs always on which looks kind of retarded. That issue hasn't been resolved yet from what I've seen.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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There's also the issue with the driver side rear fogs always on which looks kind of retarded. That issue hasn't been resolved yet from what I've seen.
That's what reprogramming solves, among other things. There is a local MB tech who has figured it out. I will go to him for the fix after I order them from MBenzNL.

Just yesterday afternoon I followed a new Mars Red C300 which had the lights on and also saw braking and signalling and they are vastly better than the old style. Much brighter and more noticeable and the red LED turn lights were brighter than the old style. The yellow LEDS which I will be getting will be even more noticeable in daylight.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 12:21 AM
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sorry for the newb question but what exactly is the "SCN code"
is it literally a set of codes that can be inputed to STAR?

I have a friend with STAR that has full developer mode, how does one "find this code"
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If i just go to mercedes and order the OEM ones you thing that would fit in my 2008 c300? i already have a stock taillights that has the LED red signals.
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by vanbong84
If i just go to mercedes and order the OEM ones you thing that would fit in my 2008 c300? i already have a stock taillights that has the LED red signals.
yes mine is 08 also
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Normandie4life
yes mine is 08 also
dammit. i ment to say if i ordered the 2012 OEM tail lights, would that fit/work with my 2008 c300 which already has LED signal lights
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dammit. i meant to say if i ordered the 2012 OEM tail lights, would that fit/work with my 2008 c300 which already has LED signal lights
No, they will not work correctly without reprogramming the rear SAM. Whether or not the original rear lights contained LED turn lights is irrelevant.

Please go back to the first post in this thread and read every single post carefully since this question has been answered many times.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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No, they will not work correctly without reprogramming the rear SAM. Whether or not the original rear lights contained LED turn lights is irrelevant.

Please go back to the first post in this thread and read every single post carefully since this question has been answered many times.

they will work its just the rear fog needs to be programed its not a big deal too bad i havent had time to do it
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Just ordered mine! Time to hit up whipple for the reprogram... Anyone know how much he charges?
I want to do this as well, please tell us how much?
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