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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 12:30 AM
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What is Sport Mode and Sport Suspension?

Hi all. I got myself a 2012 C350 Sport, and was wondering about two things.

First off, what does Sport Mode really do? All I've read is that it puts the engine in first speed at the line instead of second speed. That can't be all.

Also, is the suspension an AMG suspension? How is it better or different than the "standard" suspension?

Just curious. Love the car, and just want to know more about it.

By the way, have had plenty of electrical problems, and got the fuse box replaced today, and Sport Mode finally works. I don't think it was working before.

Thanks!
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pdougklein
Hi all. I got myself a 2012 C350 Sport, and was wondering about two things.

First off, what does Sport Mode really do? All I've read is that it puts the engine in first speed at the line instead of second speed. That can't be all.

Also, is the suspension an AMG suspension? How is it better or different than the "standard" suspension?

Just curious. Love the car, and just want to know more about it.

By the way, have had plenty of electrical problems, and got the fuse box replaced today, and Sport Mode finally works. I don't think it was working before.

Thanks!
Sport mode will start off the line in 1st, it will hold the gears for longer letting you use the higher rpm band and shifts quicker.

Sports suspension isn't amg suspension, but it is lower than luxury suspension giving your car a lower centre of gravity and better/sportier handling, at the cost of some ride comfort.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 08:04 AM
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I'm not sure about the C350 but the E mode in the C250 is almost unusable and has an unpredictable throttle response. That seems to be a general complaint for everyone with a W204.

On the CLA the E mode is actually usable and the S mode it too aggressive.

There is also a Sports + package but I've only seen that on C250s. It will have red accents on the interior.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pdougklein
Hi all. I got myself a 2012 C350 Sport, and was wondering about two things.

First off, what does Sport Mode really do? All I've read is that it puts the engine in first speed at the line instead of second speed. That can't be all.

Also, is the suspension an AMG suspension? How is it better or different than the "standard" suspension?

Just curious. Love the car, and just want to know more about it.

By the way, have had plenty of electrical problems, and got the fuse box replaced today, and Sport Mode finally works. I don't think it was working before.

Thanks!
Did replacing the fuse box fix all of your problems...I am having some issues too with somethings not working, or only working half the time...would this fix the issue?
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 01:26 PM
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Did replacing the fuse box fix all of your problems...I am having some issues too with somethings not working, or only working half the time...would this fix the issue?
So far only a day in and the car isn't unpredictably not starting, or having warning messages on the screen that aren't real, etc. Will let you know if anything changes.

I bought this car in December as a CPO with 40K miles. Beautiful car. But it quickly wouldn't start and displayed lots of warning messages. They changed the battery. Then the same happened, and they changed the start/ignition module. Then it happened again, and they've changed the fuse box. We'll see.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by michail71
I'm not sure about the C350 but the E mode in the C250 is almost unusable and has an unpredictable throttle response. That seems to be a general complaint for everyone with a W204.

On the CLA the E mode is actually usable and the S mode it too aggressive.

There is also a Sports + package but I've only seen that on C250s. It will have red accents on the interior.
In another post, I was complaining about throttle response. E mode is fine on the car, though laggy off the line. Now that I've had the fuse box switched out, it seems that my S mode wasn't working before now. It is very loud and high RPM off the line (though still laggy), and doesn't feel like it's efficiently shifting - the E mode actually feels like it's shifting better at the top of the power curve than S. Ah well.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tejgambhir
Sport mode will start off the line in 1st, it will hold the gears for longer letting you use the higher rpm band and shifts quicker.

Sports suspension isn't amg suspension, but it is lower than luxury suspension giving your car a lower centre of gravity and better/sportier handling, at the cost of some ride comfort.
Thanks for this. Do you know where I can get specs for my suspension and see the differences between the "standard" and the AMG?
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 03:02 PM
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I really want to get the TCU flashed. I think it would help considerably.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 03:23 PM
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I really want to get the TCU flashed. I think it would help considerably.
$800 from Vivid Racing. Wow. Expensive.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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Yes, but seems to be well reviewed. It's not that high of a price in the flashing market. For the cost of performance upgrades software is actually on the cheaper side. Though I'm going to wait for next year's bonus.

I don't know much about C350 tuning as options are limited for the C250. There may be some ECU flash options for you.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pdougklein
Hi all. I got myself a 2012 C350 Sport, and was wondering about two things.

First off, what does Sport Mode really do? All I've read is that it puts the engine in first speed at the line instead of second speed. That can't be all.

Also, is the suspension an AMG suspension? How is it better or different than the "standard" suspension?
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Depends if the car originally had the "Dynamic Handling Package". If it does, then it changes the following...
>Start in 1st gear (like you already mentioned).
>Later shift points when left in auto.
>Shocks become stiffer
>Steering becomes stiffer.

You can tell if it has this package in 2 ways...

From the inside. Notice a dedicated "SPORT" button. On regular W204's the button near the shifter will say C/S instead of "M" for manual.





From the outside (engine bay) you will see a control module on top of each strut tower that is controlled electromagnetically.




If you do have this congrats. Generally, unless you specifically factory ordered it, you will not see this option in the US market.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by edgalang
Depends if the car originally had the "Dynamic Handling Package". If it does, then it changes the following...
>Start in 1st gear (like you already mentioned).
>Later shift points when left in auto.
>Shocks become stiffer
>Steering becomes stiffer.

You can tell if it has this package in 2 ways...
Great info, thank you. That's too bad. Someone else sent me the original sales brochures and options for the 2012 C350, and it implied it had all the Sport stuff available for the model - there didn't appear to be separate options as you list them. They referred to the model as the C350 Sport and grouped it among Sport models of the 250 when you chose those optional packages.

My shifter says E/S

I'll check my struts.

All your info is relevant to the 2012 C350? Just checking.

UPDATE: According to this link, "One of the most important features is the Dynamic Handling Package, which comes standard on the C350 and on option on the C250." http://www.guideautoweb.com/en/artic...into-the-fray/ - not sure how reliable his info is.

Cheers.

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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 05:48 PM
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Unless you are sure the previous owner specifically factory ordered the car, you will generally never see the "Dynamic Handling" option.

...and my info is from 1st hand experience.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by edgalang
Unless you are sure the previous owner specifically factory ordered the car, you will generally never see the "Dynamic Handling" option.

...and my info is from 1st hand experience.
Cool, thanks. Odd that nobody talks about the E/S that's on the shifter like mine is. I wonder how/why mine is different from the other C350s people discuss, including yours!

I do have "Blue Efficiency" on the side of my car, but assumed that's for all 2012 C350s.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 06:42 PM
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Cool, thanks. Odd that nobody talks about the E/S that's on the shifter like mine is. I wonder how/why mine is different from the other C350s people discuss, including yours!

I do have "Blue Efficiency" on the side of my car, but assumed that's for all 2012 C350s.
Nobody talks about it because what you have is the norm. E/S is for efficiency/sport and it only affects the transmission shift points.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 06:44 PM
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I've only seen it on C250 Sport with the Sports Plus package. There are a number of those in the US but they tend to not have premium audio, navigation and back up camera.

I test drove one and it was nice but it lacked all the other goods.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by edgalang
Nobody talks about it because what you have is the norm. E/S is for efficiency/sport and it only affects the transmission shift points.
Got it. That was ultimately my question - whether Sport Mode simply adjusted shift points, which I think it does. And I'm not really a fan of how it does it.

I guess mine has a slightly lower suspension than "normal," but not an AMG suspension or anything adjustable, from what I'm understanding, too.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 11:47 PM
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The C-Class came in Sport and Lux models. I think the Sport models are lower by around an inch or less.
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Originally Posted by michail71
The C-Class came in Sport and Lux models. I think the Sport models are lower by around an inch or less.
I haven't found any way to identify my car as one or the other. Either way, now that Sport mode is working after the fuse box replacement (not sure how the could have contributed to it not working before), I get plenty of noise and pick up if I want to zoom around town. Still that mash-the-pedal lag, but that's going to be a longer term project to fix.

Despite "wanting" to call my car "Sport," even if it's not, it's an incredible car that drives absolutely perfectly. Have raced it around turns in the mountains, and taken 300 mile trips very comfortably. Really a terrific purchase.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pdougklein
I haven't found any way to identify my car as one or the other. Either way, now that Sport mode is working after the fuse box replacement (not sure how the could have contributed to it not working before), I get plenty of noise and pick up if I want to zoom around town. Still that mash-the-pedal lag, but that's going to be a longer term project to fix.

Despite "wanting" to call my car "Sport," even if it's not, it's an incredible car that drives absolutely perfectly. Have raced it around turns in the mountains, and taken 300 mile trips very comfortably. Really a terrific purchase.
The C350 only came as Sport. There is no lux version.
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dynamic handing package is a option package on c350, i had to order it special on my 2012
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