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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 01:37 PM
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No Heat Coming, Just Cold Air - 2009 C350

After warming up the car, no heat comes on. It just blows cold air. Set to auto on the hottest temp does nothing. I'm here in Los Angeles so frozen water trapped is not an issue.

I suppose a bad relay would not produce a CEL.

Has anyone dealt with this?
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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You might want get the heating shutoff valve looked at to verify it's working properly - It's at the back of the engine on the drivers side near/somewhat underneath the vacuum pump
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Originally Posted by Funkwagen
You might want get the heating shutoff valve looked at to verify it's working properly - It's at the back of the engine on the drivers side near/somewhat underneath the vacuum pump
I presume this throws a code or it just that obvious?
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An HVAC problem will not cause a CEL. But you may find the issue if you scan with DAS
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Old Dec 4, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LILBENZ230
An HVAC problem will not cause a CEL. But you may find the issue if you scan with DAS
Ok, is the heater valve a common failure?
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Old Dec 5, 2016 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicholi2007
I presume this throws a code or it just that obvious?

It won't show a CEL, a fault might be stored either in the HVAC control unit or the engine ECU though.

I accidentally left my heater shutoff valve unplugged when I put in my new intake manifold, and never got any codes or errors at all..
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So I ended up replacing the thermostat and that solved the problem. Now it's back.

FCP Euro says to change out the thermostat every 50,000 miles. That seems premature.

With today's case and the previous case, the car temp went up a little but not much.

The fan comes on occasionally.

I always thought a failing thermostat lead to major overheating at some point.

Opinons?


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Old Oct 25, 2021 | 07:29 PM
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Thermostats are common but not that fast. Try checking if its as simple as an air bubble in the cooling system. Open the coolant reservoir tank and squeeze the upper and lower radiator hoses a few times, if there's an air bubble, that should get it out.
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Thermostats are common but not that fast. Try checking if its as simple as an air bubble in the cooling system. Open the coolant reservoir tank and squeeze the upper and lower radiator hoses a few times, if there's an air bubble, that should get it out.
Just unscrewed the cap and some fluid came out as it was still slightly under pressure. The fluid was at the very top.

I squeezed the hose a few times but did not see any bubbles.

I have 145K miles. I think when I replaced it last was 80K-ish...
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Is there no heat at all? These usually fail in an open position or the seal in them fails so the engine takes longer to get to operating temperatures. If you're seeing low engine temperatures and no heat, its most definitely the thermostat.
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Is there no heat at all? These usually fail in an open position or the seal in them fails so the engine takes longer to get to operating temperatures. If you're seeing low engine temperatures and no heat, its most definitely the thermostat.
Ok so the heat came back on. I parked the car and it went back to cold air when I restarted the car. The fan started to rev up.

I took it in for an oil change a month ago. I presume the guy must have opened it to check the fluid.

I’m amazed how air gets in the system so easily.

I’ll try to bleed it some more. I remember waiting 2 hours before and took a couple of times..

i have not changed the coolant in 2 years…

Thanks for your help.

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Had the same issue come up with the fan and erratic heat even after changing the thermostat again.

Changed the radiator cap.

Issues when away. Probably something I'll do on any car going forward once they hit 70K.

I can't believe I did not think of this before..
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Had the same issue come up with the fan and erratic heat even after changing the thermostat again.

Changed the radiator cap.

Issues when away. Probably something I'll do on any car going forward once they hit 70K.

I can't believe I did not think of this before..
Yeh these thermostats usually only last about 80-100k max on these cars. I went through 2 of them, original lasted to 80k, second one lasted a little longer but started being lazy in the cold at 180k.

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Yeh these thermostats usually only last about 80-100k max on these cars. I went through 2 of them, original lasted to 80k, second one lasted a little longer but started being lazy in the cold at 180k.
Interesting. It's really surprising since the W203 I had, the thermo lasted way over that.
Not anywhere near as much power as the C350. Thermostat 1 was around 80K if memory serves correct.

I'm hoping to get into a C450. The C400 is tempting but the gearbox is not much to be desired. I hear mixed reviews about the C43 depending on year.

The heart says yes. The mind says stay in the car for 2 more years.

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Ended up replacing the radiator cap as the seal looked questionable.

Issue went away. No more air and no more fan for take off sound! Sometimes it's the simple things.
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