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Old 03-23-2017 | 11:46 AM
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New 2011 c250 owner - One major question re: ECU remaping

Hi guys,

I just bought a w204 c250 cgi (1.8 turbo) with AMG package.

Wanting to know thoughts on a remap.

I have looked all over and read many threads but wanted to start another one anyway.

I'm just wanting to know thoughts on if this is really worth it or not?
I have read that my modael can really benefit from a remap. Thoughts guys?
Old 03-24-2017 | 09:09 AM
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piggy back and call it a day. i havent seen a good ecu remap that provides verified gains for the money. for $300 on the DINAN or Burger piggy back you cant go wrong.
Old 03-26-2017 | 10:49 AM
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piggy back and call it a day. i havent seen a good ecu remap that provides verified gains for the money. for $300 on the DINAN or Burger piggy back you cant go wrong.
I've read so much about all this my mind is spinning.

I have an appointment with a tuning company this week. I'll see what they say.

I've heard Dinan is the one to go for but some people say it can damage your engine.
Confusing....
Old 03-26-2017 | 01:40 PM
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Seems to be a mistake but Dinan is a BMW tuner, plus a check on their website didn't show any Benz listing. There is no remap available for the c250 and any company that tells you is either lying to you or full of **** in willing to guinea pig your car's ECU. The W204 CGI engine uses a Continental ECU which the industry is not decrypting unlike MB's other models that use Bosch. You'll have to settle for a piggyback unit.
Old 03-26-2017 | 05:42 PM
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The Dinan unit is real, there are a few guys who claim to have them with good experiences but not much details:

https://www.dinancars.com/product/d4...?series=&mid=/
Old 03-26-2017 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fendmarson
The Dinan unit is real, there are a few guys who claim to have them with good experiences but not much details:

https://www.dinancars.com/product/d4...?series=&mid=/
Interesting, I stand corrected. I came from BMW so knew about Dinan but never heard of them venturing out of BMW.
Old 03-27-2017 | 09:28 AM
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yes I have the dinan on my 2013 and have been very happy with it. The app needs work, but knew this going in and for $300 its definitely worth the little extra performance bump you get out of it!. get one!
Old 03-27-2017 | 09:32 AM
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I emailed Dinan and waiting reply.

The unit they have is for a 2012+ c250,where as my one is a 2011.

If it works I just may try it.

Spoke to performance tuning company where I live and they will remap for $950 NZD.
Worried because they said they have done my model before but as Knightmare69 said, there is no official remap available....

Still confused.
So much info on here but not really on 2011 c250's.
Old 03-27-2017 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaime F
I emailed Dinan and waiting reply.

The unit they have is for a 2012+ c250,where as my one is a 2011.

If it works I just may try it.

Spoke to performance tuning company where I live and they will remap for $950 NZD.
Worried because they said they have done my model before but as Knightmare69 said, there is no official remap available....

Still confused.
So much info on here but not really on 2011 c250's.

if yours if the turbo model it will work. Dinan might have just missed the "cut off" date in terms of the actual year break.
Old 03-27-2017 | 09:39 AM
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Cool, thanks for your help mate.

I'll wait for the official response and grab one.
Wondering if I can get cheaper delivery. They charge $53 USD to send to NZ. Weird. It doesn't look heavy, wonder why the steep costs..
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Originally Posted by Jaime F
Cool, thanks for your help mate.

I'll wait for the official response and grab one.
Wondering if I can get cheaper delivery. They charge $53 USD to send to NZ. Weird. It doesn't look heavy, wonder why the steep costs..

suggest they send it by us post service, its a very small box and im sure that would be much less!
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also don't believe the C250 was here in the US until 2012 so that might also be why they show It as 2012-14. just a thought
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Originally Posted by subzero05
also don't believe the C250 was here in the US until 2012 so that might also be why they show It as 2012-14. just a thought
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Old 03-31-2017 | 12:02 AM
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After speaking with a great mechanic/engineer that used to work 12 for BMW and many years on euro cars etc I have decided not to do any tuning or remaping at all.
Old 03-31-2017 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaime F
After speaking with a great mechanic/engineer that used to work 12 for BMW and many years on euro cars etc I have decided not to do any tuning or remaping at all.
why is that? what did he say? The piggy back solutions seem relatively harmless as long as you arent overboosting constantly.
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The usual 'Not good for engine longevity', and such.

It wasn't such mind blowing stuff, just confirming what I had already read about.

I may do it later on if I get bored with how it drives, but at this stage it stays stock (apart from a K&N I put in last week).

Also, I won't go into his credentials here but the guy knew what he was talking about.

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Old 04-28-2017 | 02:32 PM
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Thanks for the post. I've been considering the Dinan Sport Performance Tuner for C250.
It's interesting, and maybe obvious: Tuners like Burger and Dinan say the 1.8L has a mild tune and the engine can take - with out harm - an increase in boost. Yet, the stealership and euro techs (well one) with whom I've spoken claim it will shorten engine life.
The bottom line, for me, is I really don't find a real world performance deficit with stock HP and Torque (201/229).

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Old 04-30-2017 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Polestar
Thanks for the post. I've been considering the Dinan Sport Performance Tuner for C250.
It's interesting, and maybe obvious: Tuners like Burger and Dinan say the 1.8L has a mild tune and the engine can take - with out harm - an increase in boost. Yet, the stealership and euro techs (well one) with whom I've spoken claim it will shorten engine life.
The bottom line, for me, is I really don't find a real world performance deficit with stock HP and Torque (201/229).



I am am located in HK same with Knightmare69. Remapping is possible
Old 04-30-2017 | 03:54 AM
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Yes we know it's possible but the question is, is it safe for the engine's life?

The answer the I come to is - The possible 30hp boost just isn't worth it for me.
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Originally Posted by Orangeforever



I am am located in HK same with Knightmare69. Remapping is possible
Its well after 3 years now. Whats the update? Is it good? Etc etc for the engine longevity?

I think as long as the torque does not exceeds 400nm which is the limitations of the gb, it should be ok?
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Originally Posted by Jaime F
The usual 'Not good for engine longevity', and such.

It wasn't such mind blowing stuff, just confirming what I had already read about.

I may do it later on if I get bored with how it drives, but at this stage it stays stock (apart from a K&N I put in last week).

Also, I won't go into his credentials here but the guy knew what he was talking about.

Ahhh , the K&N...

https://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html


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Good one gaz.

I get bored with the car. So i am recondition; change rotor to ventilated, steebraided hose, timing chain and tensioners, walnut shell blast the intake and valves, change to a lighter wheels.

And ive ordered the catless downpipe with wrap (i know ceramic coat is better but at this stage, the car is a bit too old and downpipe isnt that expensive anyway), quad tailpipe with 60mm of full exhaust system with valvetronic on both mufflers, from tornado the charge pipe, intercooler, and redesigned intake hose. Armaspeed cold air intake too. Well i know this wont filter small particulates and worse than the K&N you posted, but lets see. Mid of next month will tweak the ecu to 2nd stage. Lets see whats the outcome.

Probly ill break the GB in a short while. Trying to keep torque below or exact 400nm.

I really want to know whats the outcome or experiences of ecu remap thou.

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