Car just won't align :(
#1
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Car just won't align :(
I've been trying to get my car aligned since I purchased it about 2 years ago. It has been to the dealer for an alignment (with caster bolts added) and several several corrections since then. Every time the car is delivered I have the reports showing everything in spec. Then within a day or so I notice it's back to drifting or pulling to the right.
In that time it has also gotten new tires. I replaced the contiprocontacts with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. But it hasn't helped with the alignment problems. I have also gotten several road force balances done.
Often times they mess up the steering wheel too. It usually comes back anywhere between 2-4 degrees off center which drives me nuts.
I used a independent Mercedes shop this last time. Despite the wheel being to the left by 2.5 degrees the car felt better balanced but it feels like it's starting to pull right more and more as the days go by.
I'll go back to the shop but I'm at a loss here. Numerous alignments, caster bolts, new tires, road force balances, etc. and the car just wants to pull right. Should I just tell the shop to make the car pull left? lol This isn't a case of road camber. I know what that feels like.
It wouldn't be so bad but as sensitive and twitchy as the steering is in these cars it can get a bit tiring to drive.
In that time it has also gotten new tires. I replaced the contiprocontacts with Michelin Pilot Super Sports. But it hasn't helped with the alignment problems. I have also gotten several road force balances done.
Often times they mess up the steering wheel too. It usually comes back anywhere between 2-4 degrees off center which drives me nuts.
I used a independent Mercedes shop this last time. Despite the wheel being to the left by 2.5 degrees the car felt better balanced but it feels like it's starting to pull right more and more as the days go by.
I'll go back to the shop but I'm at a loss here. Numerous alignments, caster bolts, new tires, road force balances, etc. and the car just wants to pull right. Should I just tell the shop to make the car pull left? lol This isn't a case of road camber. I know what that feels like.
It wouldn't be so bad but as sensitive and twitchy as the steering is in these cars it can get a bit tiring to drive.
#2
Sounds like an issue with one side of your car. As you drive, settings change (toe, camber, etc). Have you checked all components? Seems maybe the right side is allowing the wheel to pull out under load (that didn't sound right). This would also explain the wheel being off. If they set it straight and did the alignment, as the car drives and pulls slightly to one side the steering wheel would follow suit.
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Thanks for the reply. I suspect they may do a little more digging around when I bring the car back. Whatever it is must not be obvious.
I think in this case the wheel was just a little off at the time the alignment was set. The last time the dealer had it off to the right. But I've been wondering why nobody can seem to make the steering wheel straight. Perhaps I'm too picky at being annoyed by 1.5 to 3 degrees but I notice it.
Some years ago I had to bring my VW to a shop that specialized in manual alignments. That's all they do. The place looked like a leftover from the 1950s. I was told they were highly recommended for Mercedes cars as well. I'm not sure why the old fashioned way would be better. But they did an amazing alignment.
I think in this case the wheel was just a little off at the time the alignment was set. The last time the dealer had it off to the right. But I've been wondering why nobody can seem to make the steering wheel straight. Perhaps I'm too picky at being annoyed by 1.5 to 3 degrees but I notice it.
Some years ago I had to bring my VW to a shop that specialized in manual alignments. That's all they do. The place looked like a leftover from the 1950s. I was told they were highly recommended for Mercedes cars as well. I'm not sure why the old fashioned way would be better. But they did an amazing alignment.
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Thanks for the reply. I suspect they may do a little more digging around when I bring the car back. Whatever it is must not be obvious.
I think in this case the wheel was just a little off at the time the alignment was set. The last time the dealer had it off to the right. But I've been wondering why nobody can seem to make the steering wheel straight. Perhaps I'm too picky at being annoyed by 1.5 to 3 degrees but I notice it.
Some years ago I had to bring my VW to a shop that specialized in manual alignments. That's all they do. The place looked like a leftover from the 1950s. I was told they were highly recommended for Mercedes cars as well. I'm not sure why the old fashioned way would be better. But they did an amazing alignment.
I think in this case the wheel was just a little off at the time the alignment was set. The last time the dealer had it off to the right. But I've been wondering why nobody can seem to make the steering wheel straight. Perhaps I'm too picky at being annoyed by 1.5 to 3 degrees but I notice it.
Some years ago I had to bring my VW to a shop that specialized in manual alignments. That's all they do. The place looked like a leftover from the 1950s. I was told they were highly recommended for Mercedes cars as well. I'm not sure why the old fashioned way would be better. But they did an amazing alignment.
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Thanks for the reply. I suspect they may do a little more digging around when I bring the car back. Whatever it is must not be obvious.
I think in this case the wheel was just a little off at the time the alignment was set. The last time the dealer had it off to the right. But I've been wondering why nobody can seem to make the steering wheel straight. Perhaps I'm too picky at being annoyed by 1.5 to 3 degrees but I notice it.
Some years ago I had to bring my VW to a shop that specialized in manual alignments. That's all they do. The place looked like a leftover from the 1950s. I was told they were highly recommended for Mercedes cars as well. I'm not sure why the old fashioned way would be better. But they did an amazing alignment.
I think in this case the wheel was just a little off at the time the alignment was set. The last time the dealer had it off to the right. But I've been wondering why nobody can seem to make the steering wheel straight. Perhaps I'm too picky at being annoyed by 1.5 to 3 degrees but I notice it.
Some years ago I had to bring my VW to a shop that specialized in manual alignments. That's all they do. The place looked like a leftover from the 1950s. I was told they were highly recommended for Mercedes cars as well. I'm not sure why the old fashioned way would be better. But they did an amazing alignment.
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My father once bought a pickup that was pulling to the right on accelleration and to the left on braking. We investigated and found a fixed component liked to the steering bent, but covered with mud, so difficult to see at 1st glance. If something is bend out of design, it will allow you the settings, but react out of norm as the suspention change height.
Try to push the car up and down and see if the front wheels stays in direction.
Try to push the car up and down and see if the front wheels stays in direction.
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** edit **
The math works out to 0.625 inches per foot for 3 degrees.
Last edited by michail71; 08-06-2017 at 05:45 PM.
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My father once bought a pickup that was pulling to the right on accelleration and to the left on braking. We investigated and found a fixed component liked to the steering bent, but covered with mud, so difficult to see at 1st glance. If something is bend out of design, it will allow you the settings, but react out of norm as the suspention change height.
Try to push the car up and down and see if the front wheels stays in direction.
Try to push the car up and down and see if the front wheels stays in direction.
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Any chance you might have a right front brake caliper that is not releasing fully and causing the vehicle to pull to the right? Alignment shouldn't drift off after only a couple of days. The off-centre steering wheel should be just the shop making sure the wheel is centred and locked in position before adjusting the tie rods.
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Did you get the camber/caster bolt kit as an add on to help with this exact problem?
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you mentioned the dealer did one of the alignments? why not keep bringing it back there until they get it right?
im going through similar situation with GLK. put new tires on, and asked the local shop to NOT do an alignment. they did... and it went from going straight as an arrow to slightly pulling right and the steering wheel is ever so slightly cocked right as well. truck is at the dealer right now for a alignment. hopefully they'll get it right.
i would trust a dealer that does these cars day in and day out for something like an alignment over an indy.
im going through similar situation with GLK. put new tires on, and asked the local shop to NOT do an alignment. they did... and it went from going straight as an arrow to slightly pulling right and the steering wheel is ever so slightly cocked right as well. truck is at the dealer right now for a alignment. hopefully they'll get it right.
i would trust a dealer that does these cars day in and day out for something like an alignment over an indy.
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I used to think the same way but I've had enough borked up dealership services. I like being able to meet and talk with the mechanics directly.
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The indy shop finally got the alignment! OMG, I finally feel like I don't hate my car anymore. The steering on these cars is so light and sensitive it can be a misery when it's off.
I needed to get a set of bolts for the front right. It has gotten a little odd in that the dealer said they installed them on the front left but the shop said there are none there. Either way I needed them on the right and the dealer never could get it aligned.
The shop was hesitant to recommend installing them as there was no guarantee it would fix the issue. He said some Mercedes cars just don't want to align properly.
I needed to get a set of bolts for the front right. It has gotten a little odd in that the dealer said they installed them on the front left but the shop said there are none there. Either way I needed them on the right and the dealer never could get it aligned.
The shop was hesitant to recommend installing them as there was no guarantee it would fix the issue. He said some Mercedes cars just don't want to align properly.
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The indy shop finally got the alignment! OMG, I finally feel like I don't hate my car anymore. The steering on these cars is so light and sensitive it can be a misery when it's off.
I needed to get a set of bolts for the front right. It has gotten a little odd in that the dealer said they installed them on the front left but the shop said there are none there. Either way I needed them on the right and the dealer never could get it aligned.
The shop was hesitant to recommend installing them as there was no guarantee it would fix the issue. He said some Mercedes cars just don't want to align properly.
I needed to get a set of bolts for the front right. It has gotten a little odd in that the dealer said they installed them on the front left but the shop said there are none there. Either way I needed them on the right and the dealer never could get it aligned.
The shop was hesitant to recommend installing them as there was no guarantee it would fix the issue. He said some Mercedes cars just don't want to align properly.
Get the bolt kit and have them do it again. If they can't get it within spec then tell them you'll write into MBUSA.
There are specs for a reason.
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Dealership here could not get my car to drive straight either. Always pulled to the right. I brought it back and they said it was fine.
Bull****.
I took my car to the auto body shop that fixes all the dealership cars and they did a perfect job for less than what the dealer charges.
My car drives perfect now as of yesterday morning. I would rather spend the $100 then try and go back to the dealership for a 3rd time.