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Old Sep 12, 2021 | 04:39 PM
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2014 C250 rattle noise on deceleration

Hi all,

This rattle noise started a few months ago. Took it to my mechanic and he doesn't know what it is. It only happens when I let off the gas and before coming to a stop. More in sport mode than eco mode.
  1. It sounds like metal on metal vibrating.
  2. Camshaft adjusters were replaced recently.
  3. Timing chain is fine
  4. RADO downpipe is installed/No primary cat
  5. Turbo was replaced a little over a year ago.
  6. Can't pinpoint which side the sound is coming from.
  7. No rattle noise on startup, idle or when I put it in neutral.
    Starting this thread to see if anyone else has had this issue. I've checked a lot of places and haven't had any luck with finding someone with a similar issue with the M271 engine. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old Sep 12, 2021 | 06:55 PM
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna_be_63
Hi all,

This rattle noise started a few months ago. Took it to my mechanic and he doesn't know what it is. It only happens when I let off the gas and before coming to a stop. More in sport mode than eco mode.
  1. It sounds like metal on metal vibrating.
  2. Camshaft adjusters were replaced recently.
  3. Timing chain is fine
  4. RADO downpipe is installed/No primary cat
  5. Turbo was replaced a little over a year ago.
  6. Can't pinpoint which side the sound is coming from.
  7. No rattle noise on startup, idle or when I put it in neutral.
    Starting this thread to see if anyone else has had this issue. I've checked a lot of places and haven't had any luck with finding someone with a similar issue with the M271 engine. Any help would be appreciated.
Point number 1 - metal on metal vibrating sounds like a clearance problem.
Exhaust systems are often the source for these kinds of noises.
Can you get the car off the ground? With insulated gloves the exhaust pipe can be shaken hard by hand when hot. This may show where the interference is. Banging on it the with a rubber mallet may also be useful.
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Odd Piggy
Point number 1 - metal on metal vibrating sounds like a clearance problem.
Exhaust systems are often the source for these kinds of noises.
Can you get the car off the ground? With insulated gloves the exhaust pipe can be shaken hard by hand when hot. This may show where the interference is. Banging on it the with a rubber mallet may also be useful.
I haven't looked into but but I definitely will now. Thank you!
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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 10:46 PM
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I have had something that sounds similar every time I have done anything with the exhaust on my MBs. Look for interference with heat shields and things like that. Hopefully it's the exhaust because that is an easy and no cost fix. Keep us informed.
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Old May 12, 2022 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna_be_63
Hi all,

This rattle noise started a few months ago. Took it to my mechanic and he doesn't know what it is. It only happens when I let off the gas and before coming to a stop. More in sport mode than eco mode.
  1. It sounds like metal on metal vibrating.
  2. Camshaft adjusters were replaced recently.
  3. Timing chain is fine
  4. RADO downpipe is installed/No primary cat
  5. Turbo was replaced a little over a year ago.
  6. Can't pinpoint which side the sound is coming from.
  7. No rattle noise on startup, idle or when I put it in neutral.
    Starting this thread to see if anyone else has had this issue. I've checked a lot of places and haven't had any luck with finding someone with a similar issue with the M271 engine. Any help would be appreciated.
Hi, I have the same issue with mine, I drive a c250 w204 and it usually starts rattling around 80 mph, 2.5k rpm for me. I looked up online and it seems like its a common c250 problem.
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna_be_63
Hi all,

This rattle noise started a few months ago. Took it to my mechanic and he doesn't know what it is. It only happens when I let off the gas and before coming to a stop. More in sport mode than eco mode.
  1. It sounds like metal on metal vibrating.
  2. Camshaft adjusters were replaced recently.
  3. Timing chain is fine
  4. RADO downpipe is installed/No primary cat
  5. Turbo was replaced a little over a year ago.
  6. Can't pinpoint which side the sound is coming from.
  7. No rattle noise on startup, idle or when I put it in neutral.
    Starting this thread to see if anyone else has had this issue. I've checked a lot of places and haven't had any luck with finding someone with a similar issue with the M271 engine. Any help would be appreciated.
Update: It's been hard to manage focusing on this due to work, but I have attached 2 videos. 1 is the rattling sound and the other one is the squeaking sound. Any response with ideas are greatly appreciated. The car is bogging while normal driving. Very rough cold starts, the engine even shakes while idling/warming up. A few times it even jolted a liftle forward every other second when I put it in drive. It's getting very frustrating and I'm at the point of putting in a new engine in it at this point. I still feel like it's the timing chain and belt tensioner causing the issue, but it was replaced by the dealership a year ago. My mechanic says the timing chain looks fine, nithing wrong with it. List of repairs being completed as of right now:

O2 seonsors on cat: replaced
Air sensors are being replaced
Valve job

Not sure if this will do anything, but I'm desperate to get it fixed.

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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 03:32 PM
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C250 M271 Misfire/squeaking/rough cold start

Hi all,

This rattle noise started back in June of 2021. Now it also has a squeaking noise on startup and the car is bogging while driving normal at low rpm's. The rattle only happens when I let off the gas and before coming to a stop. More in sport mode than eco mode. Very rough cold start, car idles very loud for 10 seconds while misfiring and then idles normally right after and the squeaking starts until the car is fully warm and then it goes away.
  1. It sounds like metal on metal grinding.
  2. Camshaft adjusters/timing chain were replaced 6/04/21 at a dealership
  3. Timing chain is fine according to my mechanic
  4. O2 sensors and air sensors are being replaced.
  5. Crankcase breather was replaced
Valve job is currently being completed at my mechanic's shop.

Attched are 2 videos directly from my phone. One is the grinding sound and the other one is the squeaking. Any information or idea on this will be greatly appreciated.
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Old Oct 17, 2022 | 03:12 PM
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Hi all,

This rattle noise started back in June of 2021. Now it also has a squeaking noise on startup and the car is bogging while driving normal at low rpm's. The rattle only happens when I let off the gas and before coming to a stop. More in sport mode than eco mode. Very rough cold start, car idles very loud for 10 seconds while misfiring and then idles normally right after and the squeaking starts until the car is fully warm and then it goes away.
  1. It sounds like metal on metal grinding.
  2. Camshaft adjusters/timing chain were replaced 6/04/21 at a dealership
  3. Timing chain is fine according to my mechanic
  4. O2 sensors and air sensors are being replaced.
  5. Crankcase breather was replaced
Valve job is currently being completed at my mechanic's shop.

Attched are 2 videos directly from my phone. One is the grinding sound and the other one is the squeaking. Any information or idea on this will be greatly appreciated.

UPDATE: Stretched timing chain was the issue. 1 piston went bad and had to be replaced, intake manifold flap was not working(replaced). Squeaking was from the alternator. Car's fully fixed and running normally now
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Old Oct 17, 2022 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna_be_63
Hi all,

This rattle noise started a few months ago. Took it to my mechanic and he doesn't know what it is. It only happens when I let off the gas and before coming to a stop. More in sport mode than eco mode.
  1. It sounds like metal on metal vibrating.
  2. Camshaft adjusters were replaced recently.
  3. Timing chain is fine
  4. RADO downpipe is installed/No primary cat
  5. Turbo was replaced a little over a year ago.
  6. Can't pinpoint which side the sound is coming from.
  7. No rattle noise on startup, idle or when I put it in neutral.
    Starting this thread to see if anyone else has had this issue. I've checked a lot of places and haven't had any luck with finding someone with a similar issue with the M271 engine. Any help would be appreciated.
Update: Rattle noise was from the timing chain. It was later inspected and was stretched. Got replaced and the sound is gone now.
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Old Oct 17, 2022 | 03:53 PM
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Hello,

We may have similar problems, would you be kind enough to check these two YouTube videos to see whether the noise I'm having is similar to what you were experiencing? I also have rattle on deceleration. - I haven't taken it to the mechanic yet, will do so soon
Thank you


my original post here in case you're interested
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...w204-c250.html
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Old Nov 7, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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Hello,

We may have similar problems, would you be kind enough to check these two YouTube videos to see whether the noise I'm having is similar to what you were experiencing? I also have rattle on deceleration. - I haven't taken it to the mechanic yet, will do so soon
Thank you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OptN...e=emb_imp_woyt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIks...e=emb_imp_woyt

my original post here in case you're interested
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...w204-c250.html
did u find the problem. My does this exact same thing
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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 09:25 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 11:21 PM
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did u find the problem. My does this exact same thing
mines starting to do that same thing as all you guys. I’ve replaced cam adjusters, tensioner 2 different times with new ones. Same thing is happening. I have the timing chain by fibi bilstein I’m dredding to put in but at this point I’m 98% sure that’s it. Sad sad I wanna cry my eye ***** out
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 08:13 PM
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mines starting to do that same thing as all you guys. I’ve replaced cam adjusters, tensioner 2 different times with new ones. Same thing is happening. I have the timing chain by fibi bilstein I’m dredding to put in but at this point I’m 98% sure that’s it. Sad sad I wanna cry my eye ***** out
Hello, did you replace the timing chain? Did it fix the problem? Thank you very much.
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Originally Posted by spb147
Hello,

We may have similar problems, would you be kind enough to check these two YouTube videos to see whether the noise I'm having is similar to what you were experiencing? I also have rattle on deceleration. - I haven't taken it to the mechanic yet, will do so soon
Thank you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OptN...e=emb_imp_woyt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIks...e=emb_imp_woyt

my original post here in case you're interested
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...w204-c250.html
Hello, mine does the exact same sound, with the same symptoms. Did you by any chance ended up fixing it or finding the solution? Thank you very much.
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Old Oct 31, 2024 | 06:49 AM
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Same Rattle while decelerating C250 cuoğe

Is there anybody else that solve this problem. My C250 coupe 1.8 CGI engine makes the same sound. No CEL by the way. :/ Is it exactly related to cam adjusters and timing chain?
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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 10:44 PM
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Is there anybody else that solve this problem. My C250 coupe 1.8 CGI engine makes the same sound. No CEL by the way. :/ Is it exactly related to cam adjusters and timing chain?
Hi,
I want to share my experience and solution with the ratting noise problem. Hopefuly some of you are having the same problem. I had about the same problem as well, the engine produced a rattling noise like metal ***** hitting within the cylinders, or valve knocking or a loosen drive-chain slapping on the engine cover etc. It will occur for a short 2 to 3 seconds when the car come into its final deceleration. The rattling will occur when the engine get warmed up. Point to note is my engine also had a whining noise like there is a bad bearing somewhere.
I replaced many components but it didnt solve the problem until a mechanic told me it was the Balance Shaft that had caused both the rattling and whining. True enough, the ratting and whining noise were resolved after the balance shaft was replaced. Hope this info can be useful to all.

The balance shaft can be costly in the region of around U$3k to U$4k. If it is left unattended, the problem can cause engine failure like piston rod damage or breaking the cam shaft etc. So do pay attention if you have similar problem.

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