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AIRMATIC Package or not

Old Jun 4, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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AIRMATIC Package or not

I just order 2015 C400 today. (You can see the spec screenshot below)
I added most of the packages except for Driver Assistance Package.
But I'm scratching my head right now whether I should take out AIRMATIC package or not. I still have time to change my order but wanted to hear you guys who had experience with AIRMATIC package.
Can your body feel the difference by having this option?
Is it worth it to have this by paying $1190?
What's your opinion?
Thanks in advance.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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I would hope that it's worth it, being adjustable and all. I'm assuming no final price yet?
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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No price yet. Have you used AIRMATIC suspension before? How does it feel like?
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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Isn't AIRMATIC standard on the C400?
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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AGILITY SELECT is standard but not AIRMATIC. And it says its adjustable. Without seeing it in action, I don't know if I need it or not. Do you guys think I'm going to use it often?
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by J2brian703
AGILITY SELECT is standard but not AIRMATIC. And it says its adjustable. Without seeing it in action, I don't know if I need it or not. Do you guys think I'm going to use it often?
agility select is standard on a c400???

i thought there was a package for both agility select/airmatic...can anyone else confirm if agility select is standard on the c400?

thats good news to me, i will probably skip airmatic in that case. i wanted agility select but didnt care much for airmatic. i thought in order to have agility select i needed to get the whole package for $1190.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by c400benz
agility select is standard on a c400???

i thought there was a package for both agility select/airmatic...can anyone else confirm if agility select is standard on the c400?

thats good news to me, i will probably skip airmatic in that case. i wanted agility select but didnt care much for airmatic. i thought in order to have agility select i needed to get the whole package for $1190.
It's not just C400. It is standard on all C models as shown below screenshot.
But the only difference in the package is the adjustable suspension and AIRMATIC Air Suspension which I don't exactly know what that means. Can anyone explain?
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by J2brian703
It's not just C400. It is standard on all C models as shown below screenshot.
But the only difference in the package is the adjustable suspension and AIRMATIC Air Suspension which I don't exactly know what that means. Can anyone explain?
The main difference between the Airmatic and the standard suspension is that Airmatic uses compressed air to balance and dampen the car's struts and springs. The standard suspension uses ol' fashioned coiled steel. Another difference is that the Airmatic suspension is electronically semi-automatic and adjusts itself to compensate for road conditions, for example, the suspension lowers as you travel at higher speeds to improve aerodynamics and stability. This happens automatically and independently of what suspension setting the driver has selected through the Agility Select control. The Agility Select control is available with both Airmatic and the standard suspension so even if you drop Airmatic and stay with the standard suspension, you still get Agility Select (although you'd have two more Agility Select modes if you pick the Airmatic suspension).

Some people swear by Airmatic and say it noticeably improves ride comfort, stability, and handling versus the standard suspension. Others aren't so impressed and see it as one more barrier between driver and road feedback. I think it's a matter of personal taste so it's hard to say whether you'd like it.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 10:53 PM
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The main difference between the Airmatic and the standard suspension is that Airmatic uses compressed air to balance and dampen the car's struts and springs. The standard suspension uses ol' fashioned coiled steel. Another difference is that the Airmatic suspension is electronically semi-automatic and adjusts itself to compensate for road conditions, for example, the suspension lowers as you travel at higher speeds to improve aerodynamics and stability. This happens automatically and independently of what suspension setting the driver has selected through the Agility Select control. The Agility Select control is available with both Airmatic and the standard suspension so even if you drop Airmatic and stay with the standard suspension, you still get Agility Select (although you'd have two more Agility Select modes if you pick the Airmatic suspension).

Some people swear by Airmatic and say it noticeably improves ride comfort, stability, and handling versus the standard suspension. Others aren't so impressed and see it as one more barrier between driver and road feedback. I think it's a matter of personal taste so it's hard to say whether you'd like it.

What other modes do you get with Airmatic suspension?
Does this going to affect the car (in a bad way) when cornering on the winding road?
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by J2brian703
What other modes do you get with Airmatic suspension?
Does this going to affect the car (in a bad way) when cornering on the winding road?
Sorry, sloppy error on my part. You don't get any addition Agility Select modes with Airmatic. Agility Select with or without Airmatic has five modes: Individual (custom), Comfort, Eco, Sport and Sport Plus. What pairing Airmatic with Agility Select does do is affect the suspension settings when placed in the Sport or Sport Plus modes. The suspension in those two modes "exhibits particularly stiff springing and damping settings (vehicles with AIRMATIC)" to quote the W205 C-Class owner's manual. Without Airmatic, the suspension settings don't get altered when in Sport or Sport Plus mode although other parameters such as transmission shifts are changed.

Here's a fuller description from the Mercedes site:

The AGILITY SELECT switch is located in the centre console and enables comfortable activation of four pre-installed programs and one personalised one – all at the press of a button.

Depending on the mode, configured parameters regarding the engine, transmission, suspension and steering are adjusted automatically. The selected program is shown as a status in the instrument cluster and briefly as a pop-up display in the head unit.

The standard setting is the balanced COMFORT mode with optimised fuel consumption.

In the SPORT program, the steering and – in the case of vehicles with AIRMATIC – suspension are stiffer and more sportily attuned to each other, providing more agility and dynamism, a more spontaneous throttle response and modified gear change points (for vehicles with 7G-TRONIC PLUS).

In conjunction with AIRMATIC, the SPORT+ mode allows the sportiness to be increased yet further. The suspension and drive system are even more dynamically coordinated and the ECO start-stop function is deactivated.

The ECO drive program is designed to achieve the lowest possible fuel consumption. This is ensured through calmer engine response, early gear changes (with 7G-TRONIC PLUS) and modified seat heating, rear window heating and climate control. In combination with hybrid technology, the program supports the so-called "gliding" and "gliding+" modes: if the driver removes his or her foot from the accelerator, the vehicle uses its own kinetic energy and glides along the road in a fuel-saving way.

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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 11:35 PM
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i've had ABC in my S55/S600, Airmatics in R500/E63, and regular suspension in my 06 CLK55 cab. We have crappy roads in my area, but imho, that doesn't convince me to upgrade - I've driven C63s and my CLK55 daily driver and I think I'd be just as happy w/ regular suspension. Hope this helps, and good luck.
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 01:21 AM
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There's quite a few comments on the W205 airmatic versus standard suspension in this thread: http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/gener...uspension.html Most seem to think Airmatic is a worthwhile extra cost option although it's very much a personal preference. I'm looking forward to getting a test drive but I'm fairly sure Airmatic will be worth having now road surfaces in the UK are getting worse.
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Hello all,

new to the site,

I'm justo to order my c class w205 too, and I also have the question about airmatic or not,

Roads in my country are bad enough so the extra comfort it should provide is welcomed, as well as the ability of different settings,

Car is an AMG LINE with almost every available option ticked.

My question about airmatic has to do about ride height. Does the different modes of agility control also change the ride height? i.e. when set on sport plus, will it be as low as the amg line on sports steel suspension?? or will it be the same height just stiffer?

This is something that was not discussed before and its very important for my choice as the looks of a lowered amg line are the best part of the car for me.

thanks guys
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Originally Posted by kots
Hello all,

new to the site,

I'm justo to order my c class w205 too, and I also have the question about airmatic or not,

Roads in my country are bad enough so the extra comfort it should provide is welcomed, as well as the ability of different settings,

Car is an AMG LINE with almost every available option ticked.

My question about airmatic has to do about ride height. Does the different modes of agility control also change the ride height? i.e. when set on sport plus, will it be as low as the amg line on sports steel suspension?? or will it be the same height just stiffer?

This is something that was not discussed before and its very important for my choice as the looks of a lowered amg line are the best part of the car for me.

thanks guys

I don't think AGILITY SELECT itself will lower the body of the car but with AIRMATIC does that for you depends on the number of passengers and speed of the car.
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 11:17 PM
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But will a c class fitted with airmatic sit on the same ride height as a car with steel sports suspension?? Or will it be higher?

This is my question..
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