utsenmo

a friend of mine said that Euro diesels are more "refined", better quality fuels than we have here in north america. so there is no way you can get their mpg, adding to that different unit measures.

djejglk

I tried to do your build and keep coming up with $47,400.

The premium and leather together is already $5000, and the base is 40,400. That right there is 45,400. Luxury is 650, and rearview is 460. And then there's the destination charge of almost $1000.

How are you getting that price?

CorradoJr

Not true. The US has has ULSD since 2007, at it is essentially the same as Diesel in other parts of the world (UK, Europe, etc.)

CorradoJr

My original post took the UK fuel consumption figures in Imperial MPG, and converted it to US mpg. The fuel consumption of the C220 BlueTEC is 78.5 highway and 53.3 city IMPERIAL Mpg. That converts to 65 highway/ 44 city.

My main point, however, is that there has been virtually no increase in fuel efficiency for the C-Class in years. 31 highway has been the upper limit since 2012. Looking at competitors like Audi and BMW, I see better results.

Audi's current A4 Quattro is rated at 20 / 29 (Diesel model coming 2015)
BMW 320 xDrive is rated at 23 /35
BMW 328d xDrive is rated at 31 / 43

I really like the new C-Class, but I wish MB were more flexible in the engine options department.

joshg1001

^^ that is true that 31 has been the upper limit but luxury makers have to balance power with efficiency. If they detuned all their engines, they could get much higher MPG numbers but the US marketplace would not equate that with luxury.

31 upper limit but also an increase of 40 horsepower. I think that is a nice trade off

alsyli

Point taken. I do wonder how the 9-speed will change the fuel economy and when it'll be available. I do find the fuel economy of my C250 rather unimpressive (but the C350 was out of my price range). Despite the hp inc, the fuel econ numbers for the W205 C300 aren't good, considering that the 328 has similar power and better fuel economy....

M12Power

MBUSA understanbly price the W205 very similarly to the F30 3 Series. I’m still very disappointed that they won’t offer C400 RWD here. BMW offers 335i RWD, so why can't Mercedes offer C400 RWD? I thought I'd wait for the C300 RWD, but after configuring a C300 the way I want it, it’s still at least $7K more than a Lexus IS 350 RWD with the F-Sport package. I can probably stomach it if it were a C400 but probably not with a C300…

I will certainly be interested in the C450 AMG Sport (provided it’s RWD) if they do bring it to the States, but I don’t think I want to wait any longer. I like the W205 a lot and really want to get one, but the 4MATIC is a deal breaker for me (it’s the same reason why I would never consider an Audi). The way it is now, I think I may have to settle for the Lexus or just cough up the money and get the F80 M3.

NYC-Style

I live in an area where 4matic won't be of any real advantage. However what's the disadvantage?? When I drove the demo last week there was no noticeable difference.

MDMercedesGuy

4Matic adds more weight over the front axle, the steering has a different feel (at least on the W204), it's one more thing to fail (has shown to be problematic over time with the 7G-Tronic), and overall makes the car feel less responsive.

joshg1001

not to mention reduced MPG numbers from what it really could be.

Lets not forget we are talking about 24/31 on the 4matic C300. The 328x is only rated at 22/33, and that is 20 ft lbs less. I think we can see similar numbers as the 328i

alsyli

Good question. Didn't realize the ash/blue wasn't a choice in leather initially. So, when I selected that color option, I automatically de-selected the leather package (and simply wasn't paying attention). It totals $45900.

Sorry about that.

Oddly enough, though, I normally would've rounded up to $46000, so I assume I must've de-selected something else by accident to get it closer to $45000, although I'm not sure what that might've been. ::sigh::

abstractls

The one I have on order comes in at a whopping $64k. Looks like it's time to start selling myself on the street corner lol

NYC-Style

It appears those concerns were a non-issue as late as 2012...you might want to read it...

http://www.autoguide.com/manufacture...view-1888.html

MDMercedesGuy

Certainly. You might want to take a trip through the W204 forum and see the input from actual owners of the cars. It's a great system for those who feel they need it, but it comes with compromise and a higher rate of component failure.

Failure Example 1
Failure Example 2
Failure Example 3
Failure Example 4
Failure Example 5

The list goes on. As far as steering feel, go drive a RWD and a 4Matic back to back and judge for yourself.

NYC-Style

Thanks...I'll continue to view the W204 forum...I'm interested in seeing if there have been any problems since 2012...the cars in the examples you listed range from 2008 - 2010. This will be my first MB...did you get the warranty on yours and was it worth it??