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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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Yes of course, if the cars have the very same basic build pattern and options they all use the same spring, but it doesnt take much to get another spring.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 11:50 AM
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Looks like I can't quite figure out how to get to my build sheet to see what my SA code is for my suspension. I tried online and also called my dealer.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 12:10 PM
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Looks like I can't quite figure out how to get to my build sheet to see what my SA code is for my suspension. I tried online and also called my dealer.
Give me your VIN and I can check it out.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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Looks like I can't quite figure out how to get to my build sheet to see what my SA code is for my suspension. I tried online and also called my dealer.


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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 01:36 PM
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I see 485 with no description on it on the build. Does this mean that I have a non-sport suspension on my Sport C300?
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckieboy
I see 485 with no description on it on the build. Does this mean that I have a non-sport suspension on my Sport C300?
Correct - we have the same standard suspension
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 02:28 PM
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Now, capt slo, you are our last chance showing you have 485 option as well and 19" wheels can improve this situation

amo

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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 02:55 PM
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C300W4 with Sport Package, and 18 inch AMG 5 spoke rims. 28 inches at 3 corners, 27.75 at rear right. 2.5 inch gap top of tire to high point fender.

The car has 2K miles on it. And according to the data card, 485 (comfort running gear)

I looked up the data card here, using the VIN number : http://carinfo.kiev.ua/cars/vin/mercedes/vin_check
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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According to my calculations ( on paper ), the 19" wheels address the situation in the following way:

- top of the tire to fender - 30% better on 19" wheels than what you see on 18" setup
- top of the wheel to fender - close to the distance you see on the car equipped with sport suspension and 18" wheels.

questions are: are you ready to sacrifice some comfort ? are you ready to pay 200-3000$ to buy such a combo ?

in my case, choosing 485 suspension has been an assumed decision; I've discovered the situation before the car was built ( by my own reading ), so I could influence the situation. I've even seen and driven a car equipped with this suspension, same engine, etc and have been impressed by the ride quality.

the thing I wasn't able to foreseen was the impact the color will have on car's appearance: the test drive car was black while mine is iridium silver and the gap above the rear wheel appears to our eyes more pronounced on non-black colors

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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rustycruiser
C300W4 with Sport Package, and 18 inch AMG 5 spoke rims. 28 inches at 3 corners, 27.75 at rear right. 2.5 inch gap top of tire to high point fender.

The car has 2K miles on it. And according to the data card, 485 (comfort running gear)

I looked up the data card here, using the VIN number : http://carinfo.kiev.ua/cars/vin/mercedes/vin_check
So it looks like both RWD and 4Matic cars have the same gap and height when equipped with 18' wheels. This is making me suspicious that MB is putting the non-sport (taller) springs on the C300 Sport models in the US. So the suspension lowering on the C Class literature only applies to C400 models. This is disappointing.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 04:35 PM
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This is very confusing for US built cars since all the info states the sport-tuned suspension is part of the sport package. There is no stand-alone option to order different suspensions in the US so I don't understand how you would otherwise get it. Could this be another Alabama mix up...
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 02:14 PM
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So we have two different suspension setups showing up on C300s in the US that are all supposed to have "sports" suspension... its either a factory screw up which would be really bad or there is some other option that is causing the spring height to be swapped as well. If I had ordered the sports pak and got the 4x4 suspension I'd be marching the car right back to the dealer. the high suspension is a deal breaker for me on these cars.
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 06:34 PM
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It's been some time since I first started the thread but considering how new it was, it would have taken some time to get some responses. Looks like I'm not the only one with the wrong suspension setup.

I looked up the data card on my car and it did say 485 instead 486 even though going down the build list it listed:

P29 AMG LINE INTERIOR/AMG SPORTS PACKAGE INTERIOR
P31 AMG LINE EXTERIOR/AMG SPORTS PACKAGE EXTERIOR

So they should have installed the 486 option. I'll be going to the dealer on Monday, they're not too far from work and ask them to verify this.

There's another thread for the RWD C300 Sport that's having the same issue with the swapped 485 and 486 options.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...300-sport.html
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 03:46 AM
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As certain tires in the same dimensions could vary in size you should always measure the height from the centre of the wheel (Point of star) to the highest point in the wheel arch.
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vic viper
As certain tires in the same dimensions could vary in size you should always measure the height from the centre of the wheel (Point of star) to the highest point in the wheel arch.
I have a 0.3 inch difference in the ground to fender distance between the front wheels, higher height on driver's side. Is this in the tolerated limits? Is this going to have a negative impact on the tires wear?

Thanks
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 04:07 PM
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So I just checked on EPC net the build configuration on my car and under the suspension code, the 485 option is the only one listed. When I checked the VIN on another C300 4matic w/ sport, it had both the 485 and 486 options.

Does that mean based on the car's configuration/options that the 485 is the only option applicable for my car and it's not a mistake?

Hopefully, Vic can give his input.
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by oachim
Now, capt slo, you are our last chance showing you have 485 option as well and 19" wheels can improve this situation

amo
Sorry, I forgot to reply to this...my build sheet confirms that I have option code 485. I've left a couple of messages with my dealer but have yet to receive a repsonse.
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt Slo
Sorry, I forgot to reply to this...my build sheet confirms that I have option code 485. I've left a couple of messages with my dealer but have yet to receive a repsonse.
Confirmed my c300 with sport package has the sports suspension , The car is defiantly sitting lower than the earlier pics posted. Bellow are relevant codes. carinfo site is great gives you all the details.

477 TIRE PRESSURE LOSS WARNER
486 SPORTS SUSPENSION
772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT
782 AMG-SPOKEN WEELS 18" MIXED TIRES
VEHICLES WITH 4-MATIC-/ALL WHEEL DRIVE
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M20 DISPLACEMENT 2.0 LITER
M274 R4-OTTOMOTOR M274
P14 AVANTGARDE PACKAGE INTERIOR
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by crxsnow
So I just checked on EPC net the build configuration on my car and under the suspension code, the 485 option is the only one listed. When I checked the VIN on another C300 4matic w/ sport, it had both the 485 and 486 options.

Does that mean based on the car's configuration/options that the 485 is the only option applicable for my car and it's not a mistake?

Hopefully, Vic can give his input.


What is your VIN?
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 03:37 AM
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What is your VIN?
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by crxsnow
So I just checked on EPC net the build configuration on my car and under the suspension code, the 485 option is the only one listed. When I checked the VIN on another C300 4matic w/ sport, it had both the 485 and 486 options.

Does that mean based on the car's configuration/options that the 485 is the only option applicable for my car and it's not a mistake?

Hopefully, Vic can give his input.




Your car has the Comfort Running Gear SA code 485, it is not possible to have both 485 and 486
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Old May 16, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt Slo
Sorry, I forgot to reply to this...my build sheet confirms that I have option code 485. I've left a couple of messages with my dealer but have yet to receive a repsonse.
UPDATE - I called MB-USA about a month ago and lodged a complaint about the suspension (among a few other items). I dropped my car off at the dealer on Friday, May 8th and I still don't have an answer about what's going on. I'm getting fed up with this BS.
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Old May 16, 2015 | 05:17 PM
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UPDATE - I called MB-USA about a month ago and lodged a complaint about the suspension (among a few other items). I dropped my car off at the dealer on Friday, May 8th and I still don't have an answer about what's going on. I'm getting fed up with this BS.
i hope you get this resolved to your satisfaction, this was precisely the reason why i refused my initial order because it was delivered with the 485 suspension. My replacement order is due to arrive in about 3 weeks.
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Old May 16, 2015 | 06:34 PM
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i hope you get this resolved to your satisfaction, this was precisely the reason why i refused my initial order because it was delivered with the 485 suspension. My replacement order is due to arrive in about 3 weeks.
This forum has been a blessing...if I hadn't signed up and read others confirming their cars were built with the wrong springs I might have never complained to Mercedes about it. The icing on the cake was when I receieved a copy of my build sheet confirming the Comfort suspension, not Sport suspension.

That's not to say I am happy with the ride height because I definitely am not. I had already explored aftermarket springs but the Vogtlands (IMO) are too stiff. I'm hoping MB-USA or my dealer will do the right thing and put the proper suspension on the car. It's either that or get me out of the car and let me order one with Airmatic...that would make me very happy.

I'm not requesting anything special, just to get what I paid for.
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