Ground to fender height
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W205 250cdi 4matic, amg ext/int, 485 suspension
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W205 250cdi 4matic, amg ext/int, 485 suspension
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C250 CDI coupe, Obsidian Black Vision Pack, Drive Assist Plus pack, Comfort Pack, Rev Camera
It's a c250 petrol with AMG line.
All options except Airmatic. Steel sport suspension lowered 15mm
I'll upload another when I get it out of the garage. Have to move 2 cars to get there! I'll also measure the height and gap.
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Audi S4
I'd be really suprised if they aren't using different springs for 300 vs the heavier 400.
Typically there is a difference in spring rates between cars with different options to account for weight (ie engine size/type, sedan vs. wagon, AWD vs RWD, etc.). A diesel wagon will be heavier up front and in the rear than a gasoline sedan.
Typically there is a difference in spring rates between cars with different options to account for weight (ie engine size/type, sedan vs. wagon, AWD vs RWD, etc.). A diesel wagon will be heavier up front and in the rear than a gasoline sedan.
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W205 250cdi 4matic, amg ext/int, 485 suspension
Springs should be different - 100kg+ Weight on c400.
However I am concerned about the 1inch+ difference in tire to fender distance (c300 vs c400). The look changes completely ... Having so many springs types should avoid these situations. Am I right?
Also, is it true the distance might decrease a bit over time ?
Amo
However I am concerned about the 1inch+ difference in tire to fender distance (c300 vs c400). The look changes completely ... Having so many springs types should avoid these situations. Am I right?
Also, is it true the distance might decrease a bit over time ?
Amo
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Yes it might drop a few millimeters due to bushings and joints settling, but don't expect to much.
If you are concerned about height I would get a lowering spring kit or if your wallet is up for it, a coilover set.
If you are concerned about height I would get a lowering spring kit or if your wallet is up for it, a coilover set.
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2015 C300 Sport
Anyone know if MB uses any shipping casters or pucks for the transport of our cars to the dealer?
There are some thread about the new VW Gti not getting their pucks removed during the dealer prep which caused the springs to not drop.
There are some thread about the new VW Gti not getting their pucks removed during the dealer prep which caused the springs to not drop.
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2015 C300 Sport
Is your car AWD or RWD and when was it manufactured?
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W205 250cdi 4matic, amg ext/int, 485 suspension
would you please confirm you're both on 18" wheels 225/45 front and 245/40 rear ? if so, the difference you see (1/4 inch ) might come from tires' heights difference.
to try to understand the difference in ground to fender distance, would you please mention the main options there : 4matic, automatic transmission, pano roof, burmester, hand free boot, anything you consider might add significant weight to your car ?
amo
to try to understand the difference in ground to fender distance, would you please mention the main options there : 4matic, automatic transmission, pano roof, burmester, hand free boot, anything you consider might add significant weight to your car ?
amo
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2015 c300
would you please confirm you're both on 18" wheels 225/45 front and 245/40 rear ? if so, the difference you see (1/4 inch ) might come from tires' heights difference.
to try to understand the difference in ground to fender distance, would you please mention the main options there : 4matic, automatic transmission, pano roof, burmester, hand free boot, anything you consider might add significant weight to your car ?
amo
to try to understand the difference in ground to fender distance, would you please mention the main options there : 4matic, automatic transmission, pano roof, burmester, hand free boot, anything you consider might add significant weight to your car ?
amo
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'15 C300 4Matic
On the plus side, the ride should be slightly better.
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W205 250cdi 4matic, amg ext/int, 485 suspension
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2015 C300 Sport
My options
Here are my options. I have the same tire sizes as posted above.
So I wonder if they are putting non-sport springs on the RWD Sport models.
Mine was one of the first RWD C300's send to my dealership in Texas.
So I wonder if they are putting non-sport springs on the RWD Sport models.
Mine was one of the first RWD C300's send to my dealership in Texas.
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'15 C300 4Matic
Try to look online for the build sheet of your car by VIN. And look and see if it says SA Code 485 or 486 for suspension.
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Where can I find this info online? I have a print out that my dealer gave me when they located a car for me. It shows code 321 "Sport Package" but doesn't say sports suspension anywhere. I know I've got it, just wondering where to go to get a bit more detailed information. Thanks.
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2015 C300 Luxury
All Mercs has a point system for calculating spring stiffness, the C400 have more points in the base build pattern and then you add points for every option added, such as Auto transmission, moon roof and so on.
This should make every vehicle similar in height but they will never be exactly the same.
I am surprised how Mercedes over time always seem to have chosen a rather large weheel gap, even on sport models,
looking at the competition such as BMW or Audi they usually have a much more aggressive stance.
This should make every vehicle similar in height but they will never be exactly the same.
I am surprised how Mercedes over time always seem to have chosen a rather large weheel gap, even on sport models,
looking at the competition such as BMW or Audi they usually have a much more aggressive stance.
These cars are mass produced using the same calibrated suspension systems, and so every identically configured vehicle should have identical ride heights. And Airmatic equipped vehicles should also because it's supposed to adjust on the fly.
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The chassis equipment are always the same in each of the different SA setups, but the springs are different due to car equipment and weight.
However if you have sports suspension the springs fitted to these vehicles are always labeled (coded) with the SA number, so there is only a specific range of springs used for sports suspension and so on.
However if you have sports suspension the springs fitted to these vehicles are always labeled (coded) with the SA number, so there is only a specific range of springs used for sports suspension and so on.
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2015 C300 Luxury
The chassis equipment are always the same in each of the different SA setups, but the springs are different due to car equipment and weight.
However if you have sports suspension the springs fitted to these vehicles are always labeled (coded) with the SA number, so there is only a specific range of springs used for sports suspension and so on.
However if you have sports suspension the springs fitted to these vehicles are always labeled (coded) with the SA number, so there is only a specific range of springs used for sports suspension and so on.
Here is an example of a common dealer configuration in the US:
C300 4Matic
Premium Package
Sports Package
Pano Roof
Backup Camera
Blind Sport Monitor
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EVERY car of this configuration (and the dealers do carry a lot of these identical configured cars) should have identical ride heights. We can't choose our Suspension options here, we only have Luxury Package, Standard (no Sports Package), or Sports Package - 3 suspension choices and they come in packages.
