C450 AMG Sport discussion only.
#3026
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From: San Jose
2016 C450 AMG, 2009 C300, 2001 C320 2001 CLK430, 95 E500
I’m currently still in the break in period, have 250 miles on the car now..only five days of driving. Should probably put another 350 on the car before next week.
The car is just lovely. Lovely to drive, lovely to fiddle with the tech, lovely to start, etc. I waited a bit too long before getting a new car and realize now that I need to shorten my cycles a bit. Lifes too short not to enjoy things like driving. If that’s ONE of your things. ;-)
I’ve had a few things occur that I am trying to sort out, some with the tech and some with the car.
But, the big question I have for others who are in or hopefully, BEYOND the break in period is
Do you have any sort of rough transmission experience in S+, when accelerating but then decelerating somewhat quickly?
I haven’t actually pushed the car at all, but I have used S+ sometimes to vary the revs with the engine at similar speeds in order to have the engine exercise at different outputs levels but at the same speeds. Either on city streets, or on the highway. Easy way to cycle through gears or revs and let both the engine and the transmission settle in with a wider range or effort.
What I have encountered sometimes when coming from a standstill (at a stoplight say) in S+ and accelerating away I of course find myself going TOO fast 45 in a 35 say, and then tap the break a bit which apparently leads to a 1 or 2 gear rapid downshift and this is where there is a THUNK or a rough downshift, almost like driving over a big bump or pothole. I THINK it’s an aggressive transmission downshifting rapidly which really decelerates the car, and this might just be a speed range and shift ratio where the move is more apparent. OR, it could be an issue that I don’t yet know about as I’m not really able to try and repeat it while letting the car break in…
Anyone notice anything like that, or is there anything one can do to TEST things out? Or, best just to let it settle, break in as usual and IF it persists say after the 1000 miles of break in then start dealing with it?
The car is just lovely. Lovely to drive, lovely to fiddle with the tech, lovely to start, etc. I waited a bit too long before getting a new car and realize now that I need to shorten my cycles a bit. Lifes too short not to enjoy things like driving. If that’s ONE of your things. ;-)
I’ve had a few things occur that I am trying to sort out, some with the tech and some with the car.
But, the big question I have for others who are in or hopefully, BEYOND the break in period is
Do you have any sort of rough transmission experience in S+, when accelerating but then decelerating somewhat quickly?
I haven’t actually pushed the car at all, but I have used S+ sometimes to vary the revs with the engine at similar speeds in order to have the engine exercise at different outputs levels but at the same speeds. Either on city streets, or on the highway. Easy way to cycle through gears or revs and let both the engine and the transmission settle in with a wider range or effort.
What I have encountered sometimes when coming from a standstill (at a stoplight say) in S+ and accelerating away I of course find myself going TOO fast 45 in a 35 say, and then tap the break a bit which apparently leads to a 1 or 2 gear rapid downshift and this is where there is a THUNK or a rough downshift, almost like driving over a big bump or pothole. I THINK it’s an aggressive transmission downshifting rapidly which really decelerates the car, and this might just be a speed range and shift ratio where the move is more apparent. OR, it could be an issue that I don’t yet know about as I’m not really able to try and repeat it while letting the car break in…
Anyone notice anything like that, or is there anything one can do to TEST things out? Or, best just to let it settle, break in as usual and IF it persists say after the 1000 miles of break in then start dealing with it?
#3027
On dealership side at least here in France, AMG sport buyers have the same advantages in terms of events, invites etc... At least that's what the dealer told me.
#3028
I’m currently still in the break in period, have 250 miles on the car now..only five days of driving. Should probably put another 350 on the car before next week.
The car is just lovely. Lovely to drive, lovely to fiddle with the tech, lovely to start, etc. I waited a bit too long before getting a new car and realize now that I need to shorten my cycles a bit. Lifes too short not to enjoy things like driving. If that’s ONE of your things. ;-)
I’ve had a few things occur that I am trying to sort out, some with the tech and some with the car.
But, the big question I have for others who are in or hopefully, BEYOND the break in period is
Do you have any sort of rough transmission experience in S+, when accelerating but then decelerating somewhat quickly?
I haven’t actually pushed the car at all, but I have used S+ sometimes to vary the revs with the engine at similar speeds in order to have the engine exercise at different outputs levels but at the same speeds. Either on city streets, or on the highway. Easy way to cycle through gears or revs and let both the engine and the transmission settle in with a wider range or effort.
What I have encountered sometimes when coming from a standstill (at a stoplight say) in S+ and accelerating away I of course find myself going TOO fast 45 in a 35 say, and then tap the break a bit which apparently leads to a 1 or 2 gear rapid downshift and this is where there is a THUNK or a rough downshift, almost like driving over a big bump or pothole. I THINK it’s an aggressive transmission downshifting rapidly which really decelerates the car, and this might just be a speed range and shift ratio where the move is more apparent. OR, it could be an issue that I don’t yet know about as I’m not really able to try and repeat it while letting the car break in…
Anyone notice anything like that, or is there anything one can do to TEST things out? Or, best just to let it settle, break in as usual and IF it persists say after the 1000 miles of break in then start dealing with it?
The car is just lovely. Lovely to drive, lovely to fiddle with the tech, lovely to start, etc. I waited a bit too long before getting a new car and realize now that I need to shorten my cycles a bit. Lifes too short not to enjoy things like driving. If that’s ONE of your things. ;-)
I’ve had a few things occur that I am trying to sort out, some with the tech and some with the car.
But, the big question I have for others who are in or hopefully, BEYOND the break in period is
Do you have any sort of rough transmission experience in S+, when accelerating but then decelerating somewhat quickly?
I haven’t actually pushed the car at all, but I have used S+ sometimes to vary the revs with the engine at similar speeds in order to have the engine exercise at different outputs levels but at the same speeds. Either on city streets, or on the highway. Easy way to cycle through gears or revs and let both the engine and the transmission settle in with a wider range or effort.
What I have encountered sometimes when coming from a standstill (at a stoplight say) in S+ and accelerating away I of course find myself going TOO fast 45 in a 35 say, and then tap the break a bit which apparently leads to a 1 or 2 gear rapid downshift and this is where there is a THUNK or a rough downshift, almost like driving over a big bump or pothole. I THINK it’s an aggressive transmission downshifting rapidly which really decelerates the car, and this might just be a speed range and shift ratio where the move is more apparent. OR, it could be an issue that I don’t yet know about as I’m not really able to try and repeat it while letting the car break in…
Anyone notice anything like that, or is there anything one can do to TEST things out? Or, best just to let it settle, break in as usual and IF it persists say after the 1000 miles of break in then start dealing with it?
according to the manual, you are supposed to avoid rapid downshifts as you described during breakin. I drove in comfort for about 600 miles then adjusted accordingly. I think the manual said eco mode though.
#3029
Breaking in, what is that?
Over 3 weeks i will pick up my C450. From start i will push the throttle, but only after the engine has the right temperature. Breaking is not necessary. Never done it, and never had problems with my cars. My current BMW 530 diesel has 110k miles, and without any engine problems.
Over 3 weeks i will pick up my C450. From start i will push the throttle, but only after the engine has the right temperature. Breaking is not necessary. Never done it, and never had problems with my cars. My current BMW 530 diesel has 110k miles, and without any engine problems.
#3030
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Joined: Jan 2016
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From: Sweden
2016 AMG C63S, Lamborghini Gallardo, 2016, A-class 180
Breaking in, what is that?
Over 3 weeks i will pick up my C450. From start i will push the throttle, but only after the engine has the right temperature. Breaking is not necessary. Never done it, and never had problems with my cars. My current BMW 530 diesel has 110k miles, and without any engine problems.
Over 3 weeks i will pick up my C450. From start i will push the throttle, but only after the engine has the right temperature. Breaking is not necessary. Never done it, and never had problems with my cars. My current BMW 530 diesel has 110k miles, and without any engine problems.
#3031
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Joined: Aug 2003
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From: San Jose
2016 C450 AMG, 2009 C300, 2001 C320 2001 CLK430, 95 E500
indeed, it really was un-intentional though, didn't mean to get going so fast so fast and decided to de-celerate and then had this experience. Ill continue to monitor and ride in C.. E seems pretty silly IMHO.
#3032
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Joined: Aug 2003
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From: San Jose
2016 C450 AMG, 2009 C300, 2001 C320 2001 CLK430, 95 E500
Glad to hear you have not had any issues. Only proves that BMW builds great engines Nothing else. However i am guessing your Beemer didnt have 2 turbos and working so closely to the edge right?. I would not take this guys word for anything. New engines need time to run in. Period!
#3033
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Joined: Mar 2012
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From: Hammond, La
2018 E63S: Former cars 2016 C450, 2013 C350, 2009 C300
Meisterschaft and Detroit auto show
This Saturday I will leave the Louisiana and head to Detroit to check out the Detroit auto show and then to Chicago to drop my car of at miesterchraft for a turbo back exhaust system to be installed on the c450 if anyone is in the area please reach out so that we can meet up.
#3034
^Have a good trip, look forward to the exhaust review.
I'm at 612 and have flirted with S+ a couple times but still haven't pushed it. I still noticed a bit of jerkiness during shifting but as everybody else has claimed that it feels much better after 1K, I'm not too worried. I am curious to know what it is to actually stop the jerky shifts because I highly doubt the car just knows that it's reached 1K and now it's time to go smooth.
I’m currently still in the break in period, have 250 miles on the car now..only five days of driving. Should probably put another 350 lovely. Lovely to drive, lovely to fiddle with the tech, lovely to start, etc. I
Anyone notice anything like that, or is there anything one can do to TEST things out? Or, best just to let it settle, break in as usual and IF it persists say after the 1000 miles of break in then start dealing with it?
Anyone notice anything like that, or is there anything one can do to TEST things out? Or, best just to let it settle, break in as usual and IF it persists say after the 1000 miles of break in then start dealing with it?
#3035
Breaking in, what is that?
Over 3 weeks i will pick up my C450. From start i will push the throttle, but only after the engine has the right temperature. Breaking is not necessary. Never done it, and never had problems with my cars. My current BMW 530 diesel has 110k miles, and without any engine problems.
Over 3 weeks i will pick up my C450. From start i will push the throttle, but only after the engine has the right temperature. Breaking is not necessary. Never done it, and never had problems with my cars. My current BMW 530 diesel has 110k miles, and without any engine problems.
#3036
God news, bad news, I don't know !
Car dealer called me today, the car has just arrived! 2 months ahead of schedule! Shall I take it now (winter has just started here in Belgium), shall I postpone a few weeks, if I postpone will it be well kept (inside)?
I remember the guy explained the production start date was scheduled on December the 23rd but with the transportation (from South Africa to Germany and then to Belgium), an additional 2 months was needed! I don't understand how a gap of 2 months can happen in car manufacturing/transport !
Car dealer called me today, the car has just arrived! 2 months ahead of schedule! Shall I take it now (winter has just started here in Belgium), shall I postpone a few weeks, if I postpone will it be well kept (inside)?
I remember the guy explained the production start date was scheduled on December the 23rd but with the transportation (from South Africa to Germany and then to Belgium), an additional 2 months was needed! I don't understand how a gap of 2 months can happen in car manufacturing/transport !
#3037
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From: San Jose
2016 C450 AMG, 2009 C300, 2001 C320 2001 CLK430, 95 E500
I remember the guy explained the production start date was scheduled on December the 23rd but with the transportation (from South Africa to Germany and then to Belgium), an additional 2 months was needed! I don't understand how a gap of 2 months can happen in car manufacturing/transport !
#3039
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From: Tampa, FL
2019 E450 4Matic & 2018 E400 4Matic
God news, bad news, I don't know !
Car dealer called me today, the car has just arrived! 2 months ahead of schedule! Shall I take it now (winter has just started here in Belgium), shall I postpone a few weeks, if I postpone will it be well kept (inside)?
I remember the guy explained the production start date was scheduled on December the 23rd but with the transportation (from South Africa to Germany and then to Belgium), an additional 2 months was needed! I don't understand how a gap of 2 months can happen in car manufacturing/transport !
Car dealer called me today, the car has just arrived! 2 months ahead of schedule! Shall I take it now (winter has just started here in Belgium), shall I postpone a few weeks, if I postpone will it be well kept (inside)?
I remember the guy explained the production start date was scheduled on December the 23rd but with the transportation (from South Africa to Germany and then to Belgium), an additional 2 months was needed! I don't understand how a gap of 2 months can happen in car manufacturing/transport !
#3040
God news, bad news, I don't know !
Car dealer called me today, the car has just arrived! 2 months ahead of schedule! Shall I take it now (winter has just started here in Belgium), shall I postpone a few weeks, if I postpone will it be well kept (inside)?
I remember the guy explained the production start date was scheduled on December the 23rd but with the transportation (from South Africa to Germany and then to Belgium), an additional 2 months was needed! I don't understand how a gap of 2 months can happen in car manufacturing/transport !
Car dealer called me today, the car has just arrived! 2 months ahead of schedule! Shall I take it now (winter has just started here in Belgium), shall I postpone a few weeks, if I postpone will it be well kept (inside)?
I remember the guy explained the production start date was scheduled on December the 23rd but with the transportation (from South Africa to Germany and then to Belgium), an additional 2 months was needed! I don't understand how a gap of 2 months can happen in car manufacturing/transport !
I'm surprised you are still thinkimg if you take it or not... When I knew mine was ready I shortened my stay aboard and came back for it. It is may be passion speaking for me...
I have a question for you since you're based in Europe like me.
When you get your car can you check if like me and unlike US owners:
- you have normal tires non run flat
- you don't have remote start in the remote online functions.
Thx
#3041
Car dealer told me the car was built in South Africa and shipped to Germany before being delivered in Belgium. Seems strange but that's what he said!
The reasons I am not rushing to get it (although I am waiting for it since 4 months already): winter, (better) synchronization with the sale of current car (to avoid overlapping of insurance and renting). Will probably end up somewhere between passion and reason, ie delivery mid feb !
I will have normal (summer) tyres (non run flat), I specifically ordered them with the B51 kit anti crevaison "tirefit" (there were 3 options: summer tyres, winter tyres, runflats)
Will check remote start!
The reasons I am not rushing to get it (although I am waiting for it since 4 months already): winter, (better) synchronization with the sale of current car (to avoid overlapping of insurance and renting). Will probably end up somewhere between passion and reason, ie delivery mid feb !
I will have normal (summer) tyres (non run flat), I specifically ordered them with the B51 kit anti crevaison "tirefit" (there were 3 options: summer tyres, winter tyres, runflats)
Will check remote start!
#3042
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From: San Jose
2016 C450 AMG, 2009 C300, 2001 C320 2001 CLK430, 95 E500
Car dealer told me the car was built in South Africa and shipped to Germany before being delivered in Belgium. Seems strange but that's what he said!
The reasons I am not rushing to get it (although I am waiting for it since 4 months already): winter, (better) synchronization with the sale of current car (to avoid overlapping of insurance and renting). Will probably end up somewhere between passion and reason, ie delivery mid feb !
I will have normal (summer) tyres (non run flat), I specifically ordered them with the B51 kit anti crevaison "tirefit" (there were 3 options: summer tyres, winter tyres, runflats)
Will check remote start!
The reasons I am not rushing to get it (although I am waiting for it since 4 months already): winter, (better) synchronization with the sale of current car (to avoid overlapping of insurance and renting). Will probably end up somewhere between passion and reason, ie delivery mid feb !
I will have normal (summer) tyres (non run flat), I specifically ordered them with the B51 kit anti crevaison "tirefit" (there were 3 options: summer tyres, winter tyres, runflats)
Will check remote start!
#3045
I just picked up my Obsidian black C450 loaded and I guess I was expecting the door handles to match the body color but they came Chrome? Did I miss something do some colours or packages change this? It's a Canadian car and the night package was not an option but it doesn't look to affect door handles though.
#3046
I just picked up my Obsidian black C450 loaded and I guess I was expecting the door handles to match the body color but they came Chrome? Did I miss something do some colours or packages change this? It's a Canadian car and the night package was not an option but it doesn't look to affect door handles though.
#3048
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Joined: Aug 2003
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From: San Jose
2016 C450 AMG, 2009 C300, 2001 C320 2001 CLK430, 95 E500
Oh I definitely went with the "standard" performance seat and not the funky AMG performance seats.. I tried those seats, they were NOT comfortable. The standard perf seat has nice bolster, nice support, great firmness and adjustability.. makes for a nice longer trip driver.
#3049
Strange Vinny this build in SA. Mine was built in Germany with the normal workflow. I had no option for tires. It is a lottery you get the tires they decide. I had by default the kit anti crevaison which comes only with non runfllats. Tires I got are Dunlop sport maxx.
I spoke to the technicians today. The remote online doesn't have remote start here. Anyone who can send me a screenshot of remote start please share.
Another small bad news: inbuilt wifi doesn't wotrk here in France. The norm is not the same as in Germany and it seems this is the reason why. I don't care too much as I use the shared connectivity from iPhone through Bluetooth. But I will shout with dealership as this is sold as a default option !!
Regarding seats I still have a small adaptation issue. I still didn't find a comfortable position with the normal leather seats. I feel like bounce forward whatever the setting i do for the various seat parts... Already seen such a comment somewhere but for sure it is due to the fact that I'm used to Audi where the seats position is great in a cockpit mode.
I spoke to the technicians today. The remote online doesn't have remote start here. Anyone who can send me a screenshot of remote start please share.
Another small bad news: inbuilt wifi doesn't wotrk here in France. The norm is not the same as in Germany and it seems this is the reason why. I don't care too much as I use the shared connectivity from iPhone through Bluetooth. But I will shout with dealership as this is sold as a default option !!
Regarding seats I still have a small adaptation issue. I still didn't find a comfortable position with the normal leather seats. I feel like bounce forward whatever the setting i do for the various seat parts... Already seen such a comment somewhere but for sure it is due to the fact that I'm used to Audi where the seats position is great in a cockpit mode.
#3050
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Joined: Aug 2012
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From: Montreal
2016 C450 AMG // 2015 ML550 // 2014 911 Carrera 4
If you are in shape, then go with the AMG ones. You won't regret it! Oh, and you don't lose any options - to the contrary. You will have to upgrade to premium leather package on top of the AMG performace option...so you will end up with the really nice and smooth leather in your car.
Last edited by LogicDSS; 01-15-2016 at 05:31 PM.