Has anyone got a C350e on Order / Feedback ?
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Skoda Octavia
oh no, I wish I wouldn't have read all of this, especially as our first 350e was literally being delivered as I did so.
I am a salesman, but don't do as much mileage as I used to. I was told once not to charge the battery from fuel as it uses as much as the fuel itself.
I have just given back a 1.6 Octavia DSG and just going to and from work, and the usual family stuff, I would get average about 38 to gallon. If I get the same with this (which I should get more as about 1/2 of my driving will be electric) I will be happy.
For the journeys I only get 25-30 it will be frustrating, but I Will still be saving over all.
The company pays my fuel for work so, as long as I get to do most of my journeys on electric that's all I really want, but am very surprised as to the low MPG reported as I never expected 143, but would have thought 70-80
I am a salesman, but don't do as much mileage as I used to. I was told once not to charge the battery from fuel as it uses as much as the fuel itself.
I have just given back a 1.6 Octavia DSG and just going to and from work, and the usual family stuff, I would get average about 38 to gallon. If I get the same with this (which I should get more as about 1/2 of my driving will be electric) I will be happy.
For the journeys I only get 25-30 it will be frustrating, but I Will still be saving over all.
The company pays my fuel for work so, as long as I get to do most of my journeys on electric that's all I really want, but am very surprised as to the low MPG reported as I never expected 143, but would have thought 70-80
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Mercedes 350e estate
It is the longer journeys that pull the average mileage down, I live around 20 miles from the office and depending on weather and traffic conditions I seem to achieve over 70mpg and sometimes in the 90mpg range, none of it is motorway driving though, I do get caught in traffic queues and it takes me around 45-50 mins to do the journey. I don't do many long journeys so my average should be ok, my average came tumbling down after I had done an 180mile round trip.
I am now pre-heating the car, although it hasn't been that cold yet so I am guessing I will see a drop in mpg when it does get cold as the heater will have to work harder. In the summer I guess the mpg will go back up, I am not a great lover of air conditioning so hopefully it won't hammer it although I will have it on but not too cold. I can't worry about summer yet though, have to get past Christmas first
It will be interesting to see how this technology develops over the next few years and where we will finish up, it has to get better as it strikes me the omissions and mpg figures are just a spin on numbers.
I am now pre-heating the car, although it hasn't been that cold yet so I am guessing I will see a drop in mpg when it does get cold as the heater will have to work harder. In the summer I guess the mpg will go back up, I am not a great lover of air conditioning so hopefully it won't hammer it although I will have it on but not too cold. I can't worry about summer yet though, have to get past Christmas first
It will be interesting to see how this technology develops over the next few years and where we will finish up, it has to get better as it strikes me the omissions and mpg figures are just a spin on numbers.
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C350e
Check Your Coolant (The Pink One)
So I took the car back to MB yesterday as I am having low range on the battery and at first they thought it was some sort of software issue or something like that.
But on further inspection, they realised there was a leak in the battery coolant (the pink one) which is used to cool the battery. My coolant had completely been drained to empty and it was only by good luck that I took it to the dealer as there could be some serious damage (if not already). They don't know how to fix it yet as they need to refer back to Mercedes Germany. So please check your coolant levels.
On another note, I think charging mode somehow uses more fuel than non-charging mode on petrol. I can't 100% verify this but it would seem so. And yes, the petrol mileage is not great but then again I only really drive it relatively short distances everyday so utilise the battery as much as possible.
But on further inspection, they realised there was a leak in the battery coolant (the pink one) which is used to cool the battery. My coolant had completely been drained to empty and it was only by good luck that I took it to the dealer as there could be some serious damage (if not already). They don't know how to fix it yet as they need to refer back to Mercedes Germany. So please check your coolant levels.
On another note, I think charging mode somehow uses more fuel than non-charging mode on petrol. I can't 100% verify this but it would seem so. And yes, the petrol mileage is not great but then again I only really drive it relatively short distances everyday so utilise the battery as much as possible.
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Skoda Octavia
I have got it :) :) :)
I haven't driven it yet (except to park it!!) and am looking forward to my drive home.
It arrived with 1/2 a tank of fuel, so I think I might charge it on the way home, but already have the home charger, so will charge it properly tonght.
My drive home is about an hour in traffic so lots of time to play!!!
It arrived with 1/2 a tank of fuel, so I think I might charge it on the way home, but already have the home charger, so will charge it properly tonght.
My drive home is about an hour in traffic so lots of time to play!!!
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Skoda Octavia
I have a lot of learning to do.
Lovely drive home last night, sitting in traffic playing with all the gadgets.
Charged the car overnight, pre-acclimatised and the car showed 16 miles at the start of my journey.
The charge ran out at....... TEN!!!!!
I noticed that the car was set to comfort, when I presume it should have been on eco.
did try and read the manual last night, but it is so big and bulky, I think I will need to learn by trial and error.
The real test will be once I fill the car up full (with petrol), and then drive until it is empty and see how many miles I get as I can only compare that I would get 400 miles or so to £40-45 of diesel.
Charged the car overnight, pre-acclimatised and the car showed 16 miles at the start of my journey.
The charge ran out at....... TEN!!!!!
I noticed that the car was set to comfort, when I presume it should have been on eco.
did try and read the manual last night, but it is so big and bulky, I think I will need to learn by trial and error.
The real test will be once I fill the car up full (with petrol), and then drive until it is empty and see how many miles I get as I can only compare that I would get 400 miles or so to £40-45 of diesel.
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Skoda Octavia
It is the longer journeys that pull the average mileage down, I live around 20 miles from the office and depending on weather and traffic conditions I seem to achieve over 70mpg and sometimes in the 90mpg range, none of it is motorway driving though, I do get caught in traffic queues and it takes me around 45-50 mins to do the journey. I don't do many long journeys so my average should be ok, my average came tumbling down after I had done an 180mile round trip.
I am now pre-heating the car, although it hasn't been that cold yet so I am guessing I will see a drop in mpg when it does get cold as the heater will have to work harder. In the summer I guess the mpg will go back up, I am not a great lover of air conditioning so hopefully it won't hammer it although I will have it on but not too cold. I can't worry about summer yet though, have to get past Christmas first
It will be interesting to see how this technology develops over the next few years and where we will finish up, it has to get better as it strikes me the omissions and mpg figures are just a spin on numbers.
I am now pre-heating the car, although it hasn't been that cold yet so I am guessing I will see a drop in mpg when it does get cold as the heater will have to work harder. In the summer I guess the mpg will go back up, I am not a great lover of air conditioning so hopefully it won't hammer it although I will have it on but not too cold. I can't worry about summer yet though, have to get past Christmas first
It will be interesting to see how this technology develops over the next few years and where we will finish up, it has to get better as it strikes me the omissions and mpg figures are just a spin on numbers.
Thanks.
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C350e
Lovely drive home last night, sitting in traffic playing with all the gadgets.
Charged the car overnight, pre-acclimatised and the car showed 16 miles at the start of my journey.
The charge ran out at....... TEN!!!!!
I noticed that the car was set to comfort, when I presume it should have been on eco.
did try and read the manual last night, but it is so big and bulky, I think I will need to learn by trial and error.
The real test will be once I fill the car up full (with petrol), and then drive until it is empty and see how many miles I get as I can only compare that I would get 400 miles or so to £40-45 of diesel.
Charged the car overnight, pre-acclimatised and the car showed 16 miles at the start of my journey.
The charge ran out at....... TEN!!!!!
I noticed that the car was set to comfort, when I presume it should have been on eco.
did try and read the manual last night, but it is so big and bulky, I think I will need to learn by trial and error.
The real test will be once I fill the car up full (with petrol), and then drive until it is empty and see how many miles I get as I can only compare that I would get 400 miles or so to £40-45 of diesel.
The battery mileage figure doesn't seem to relate to anything. And it doesn't take into account the last 1/4 of the batteries available charge. If you put your foot down then the charge seems to vanish in seconds. (Incidentally I get the 0-100 time at about 15 seconds! That's pretty impressive)
Regardless, if you manage more than 40MPG on a long journey I would be surprised. Figures above 100MPG only appear on journeys shorter than about 25miles. And even then you have to drive like an angel to keep the figure at 99.9mpg.
I have an issue with the electric seats. They are always on when the car is opened. How do you stop them coming on!? I have to manually turn off the passenger side so as not to waste battery ever time I start the car. I am wondering whether I need to connect to the online system to resolve this one. Do your heated seats come automatically?
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Its going to take ages to learn!!!!
So this morning I came out and the car had not pre climated itself. I am not sure if I changed a setting, or it had to be set each day. Anyone know??
When I got in the car showed 13 miles on charge which I presume was because the car was not warm, however I decided that today I am going to see the total MPG of my daily commute so I reset the trip and the battery then showed 18.
My journey is 13 miles with 95% slow main and side roads. I had the car in hybrid and I got 6 miles. However after the 13 miles the car is showing 72mpg. The battery I presume is now flat, so tonight will be interesting. All I am really hoping for is that I can get an average of 40mpg on my daily commute, especially as I hear petrol should be below £1 per litre by the end of the month.
With regards to the question on heated seats, mine were on yesterday when the car was warming up but I only had it set to warm drivers side.
Anybody got any suggestions on the best mode to drive in for this type of journey??
When I got in the car showed 13 miles on charge which I presume was because the car was not warm, however I decided that today I am going to see the total MPG of my daily commute so I reset the trip and the battery then showed 18.
My journey is 13 miles with 95% slow main and side roads. I had the car in hybrid and I got 6 miles. However after the 13 miles the car is showing 72mpg. The battery I presume is now flat, so tonight will be interesting. All I am really hoping for is that I can get an average of 40mpg on my daily commute, especially as I hear petrol should be below £1 per litre by the end of the month.
With regards to the question on heated seats, mine were on yesterday when the car was warming up but I only had it set to warm drivers side.
Anybody got any suggestions on the best mode to drive in for this type of journey??
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Skoda Octavia
First Issue with the car (aside from the MPG!!)
noticed yesterday that one of the wheels is squeaking. Called Mercedes and the first chance they have to look at it is the 6th of Jan. Would it be worth calling out Mercedes rescue to have a look?
Also, for those of you who have their cars, are you just putting the car in P, or are you using the handbrake as well (botton at the side of the steering wheel)??
Also, for those of you who have their cars, are you just putting the car in P, or are you using the handbrake as well (botton at the side of the steering wheel)??
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Hi
Am thinking of ordering one of these. our deal at work makes it very attractive, a sport premium plus, with hud etc. for 350 pm, which includes insurance and servicing. That's £40 less than the MX-5 I've currently got.
The only issue is I don't have anywhere to plug in either at work or at home, so will for the most part be charging the batteries from the engine. I do about 2000 miles a month, and its a complete mix of driving. My worry is what sort of of mgp I can expect? I tend to drive economically anyway, but anything below about 35 will be an issue in running costs, as the Cx-5 does 47.
Anyone got any experience of the MPG without charging from a socket? Or of the motorway mpg? Also do you have to tell it to charge the batteries from the engine, or can this be set automatically? Once full does it then switch to a more economical mode, how long does that take? If it is charging from the engine, does it make a significant dent in the mpg, whist doing so? Appricate all of these questions greatly depend on the conditions but an indication would be really helpful.
Hoping its still relatively economical without having to plug in as this is a seriously nice car!
Thanks
Am thinking of ordering one of these. our deal at work makes it very attractive, a sport premium plus, with hud etc. for 350 pm, which includes insurance and servicing. That's £40 less than the MX-5 I've currently got.
The only issue is I don't have anywhere to plug in either at work or at home, so will for the most part be charging the batteries from the engine. I do about 2000 miles a month, and its a complete mix of driving. My worry is what sort of of mgp I can expect? I tend to drive economically anyway, but anything below about 35 will be an issue in running costs, as the Cx-5 does 47.
Anyone got any experience of the MPG without charging from a socket? Or of the motorway mpg? Also do you have to tell it to charge the batteries from the engine, or can this be set automatically? Once full does it then switch to a more economical mode, how long does that take? If it is charging from the engine, does it make a significant dent in the mpg, whist doing so? Appricate all of these questions greatly depend on the conditions but an indication would be really helpful.
Hoping its still relatively economical without having to plug in as this is a seriously nice car!
Thanks
Last edited by smudger64; Dec 13, 2015 at 02:21 PM. Reason: spelling
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C350e
Hi
Am thinking of ordering one of these. our deal at work makes it very attractive, a sport premium plus, with hud etc. for 350 pm, which includes insurance and servicing. That's £40 less than the MX-5 I've currently got.
The only issue is I don't have anywhere to plug in either at work or at home, so will for the most part be charging the batteries from the engine. I do about 2000 miles a month, and its a complete mix of driving. My worry is what sort of of mgp I can expect? I tend to drive economically anyway, but anything below about 35 will be an issue in running costs, as the Cx-5 does 47.
Anyone got any experience of the MPG without charging from a socket? Or of the motorway mpg? Also do you have to tell it to charge the batteries from the engine, or can this be set automatically? Once full does it then switch to a more economical mode, how long does that take? If it is charging from the engine, does it make a significant dent in the mpg, whist doing so? Appricate all of these questions greatly depend on the conditions but an indication would be really helpful.
Hoping its still relatively economical without having to plug in as this is a seriously nice car!
Thanks
Am thinking of ordering one of these. our deal at work makes it very attractive, a sport premium plus, with hud etc. for 350 pm, which includes insurance and servicing. That's £40 less than the MX-5 I've currently got.
The only issue is I don't have anywhere to plug in either at work or at home, so will for the most part be charging the batteries from the engine. I do about 2000 miles a month, and its a complete mix of driving. My worry is what sort of of mgp I can expect? I tend to drive economically anyway, but anything below about 35 will be an issue in running costs, as the Cx-5 does 47.
Anyone got any experience of the MPG without charging from a socket? Or of the motorway mpg? Also do you have to tell it to charge the batteries from the engine, or can this be set automatically? Once full does it then switch to a more economical mode, how long does that take? If it is charging from the engine, does it make a significant dent in the mpg, whist doing so? Appricate all of these questions greatly depend on the conditions but an indication would be really helpful.
Hoping its still relatively economical without having to plug in as this is a seriously nice car!
Thanks
If you never plug it in you should expect economy of 35-40mpg. Nearer to 35 than 40. Motorway on long journeys will be in the 36mpg area.
In general, yes you have to tell it to charge. When charging I seem to get 15-20mpg out of it. And you have to tell it to charge as it has such a ferocious effect on economy.
Ultimately, if you cant plug it in I wouldn't recommend one. If you want an economical car for mid length journeys I wouldn't recommend one either. If you do short journeys ( less than 30 miles between charges) and want to cheat the tax man, then I would highly recommend it.
This car is pointless if you aren't going to plug it in each night.
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C350e
noticed yesterday that one of the wheels is squeaking. Called Mercedes and the first chance they have to look at it is the 6th of Jan. Would it be worth calling out Mercedes rescue to have a look?
Also, for those of you who have their cars, are you just putting the car in P, or are you using the handbrake as well (botton at the side of the steering wheel)??
Also, for those of you who have their cars, are you just putting the car in P, or are you using the handbrake as well (botton at the side of the steering wheel)??
Opening the door applies P and the hand brake (Unless I am mistaken, which I may well be). Also I keep getting out without turning it off (How am I meant to know when it makes no noise!)
I still find that gear selector stalk a bit odd. I keep moving it to try and wash the windows! Odd car
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Skoda Octavia
I have been doing exactly the same. It is lucky the R is not down!!
Scraped one of the alloys yesterday as I was using park assist. Went back further than the assist wanted me to and got a message 'park assist cancelled'. I felt like it was holding its hands up and saying 'you plonka, told you to stop!!!!!'
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Skoda Octavia
I completely agree
Read the previous posts and all will become clear.
If you never plug it in you should expect economy of 35-40mpg. Nearer to 35 than 40. Motorway on long journeys will be in the 36mpg area.
In general, yes you have to tell it to charge. When charging I seem to get 15-20mpg out of it. And you have to tell it to charge as it has such a ferocious effect on economy.
Ultimately, if you cant plug it in I wouldn't recommend one. If you want an economical car for mid length journeys I wouldn't recommend one either. If you do short journeys ( less than 30 miles between charges) and want to cheat the tax man, then I would highly recommend it.
This car is pointless if you aren't going to plug it in each night.
If you never plug it in you should expect economy of 35-40mpg. Nearer to 35 than 40. Motorway on long journeys will be in the 36mpg area.
In general, yes you have to tell it to charge. When charging I seem to get 15-20mpg out of it. And you have to tell it to charge as it has such a ferocious effect on economy.
Ultimately, if you cant plug it in I wouldn't recommend one. If you want an economical car for mid length journeys I wouldn't recommend one either. If you do short journeys ( less than 30 miles between charges) and want to cheat the tax man, then I would highly recommend it.
This car is pointless if you aren't going to plug it in each night.
I used to cover 2-3000 miles a month and would never consider this car. I mainly cover 26 miles round trip (only one of these can be done on charge - although rumour has it that we are getting a charger at work
)I am driving very carefully to try and get a good range, but at the weekend if I am doing short journeys I am not really that bothered as I can keep charging it. This is when the average goes up (and I think on a normal car you waste most fuel).
Stunning car, but I would go for a diesel c class.
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Hello againSo I have now done around 1100 miles in the car, the on board computer says I am getting an average of 64mpg. I charge at work and home and my commute is 22 miles or so, I have done one journey that was 190 miles so that would have brought the average down. Not bad I guess but I do wonder how much it is costing me to charge the car each time, I think it is around 30-40p a charge but can't be 100% sure.
I do preheat the car now which has helped the range a bit I think, I have noticed that if I leave work during daylight my range improves, so lights etc are clearly effecting the battery range. It hasn't even got cold yet so I am betting my range will drop when winter kicks in.
I still think the battery range is poor, the engine starts to kick in and out at around a range of 10 miles. Also at the weekend if I am doing short journeys in traffic around town I am lucky to see 6 miles on battery, just sitting there is queues using battery.
I generally run the car on Hybrid and comfort mode, I only change to esave when doing a longer journey to conserve the battery. I haven't tried to charge the battery from the engine, can't be worth it better to run with engine just charging when it wants, eg downhill or something. I did read the reviews and comments on here suggest don't ever try and charge from the engine.
How Tesla do it so well I don't know, I now they are fully electric but their technology seems well advanced when compared but then so is the price
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Skoda Octavia
Finally Managed it
For the first time today (having had the car for just over a week) I managed to get to work fully on electric.
One thing I did was switch the heater OFF!!! luckily I had my coat on.
I am still looking at each journey individually, but as a total I am on 430 miles on a single tank of fuel at about 45mpg.
The thing that scared me was that of the mileage on this tank it is showing 225 miles on electric, so without that I would be burning HUGE amounts of Petrol.
What I am trying to explain to people in the office is that for my journeys I am getting about the same MPG as my old Octavia 1.6DSG, the difference is the cost to me of the car.
The sooner people realise that Merc have built this car for company car drivers to save tax, and not for economy the better. Maybe do a manic 5 miles on the motorway using the flappy paddles and you will realise that this is a 2ltr petrol with a huge amount of grunt!!
One thing I did was switch the heater OFF!!! luckily I had my coat on.
I am still looking at each journey individually, but as a total I am on 430 miles on a single tank of fuel at about 45mpg.
The thing that scared me was that of the mileage on this tank it is showing 225 miles on electric, so without that I would be burning HUGE amounts of Petrol.
What I am trying to explain to people in the office is that for my journeys I am getting about the same MPG as my old Octavia 1.6DSG, the difference is the cost to me of the car.
The sooner people realise that Merc have built this car for company car drivers to save tax, and not for economy the better. Maybe do a manic 5 miles on the motorway using the flappy paddles and you will realise that this is a 2ltr petrol with a huge amount of grunt!!
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Thanks for the replies.
As much as I'd like to go for this, without charging it daily its not worth the savings on tax etc. However apparently there is a scheme by which councils can install a public charging point outside your home (as long as they've signed up for it). If that's the case and they agree I'll order one.
I do a 20, each way mile commute everyday, so that would work well for me. However any idea if I have it fully charged how far it will run in hybrid mode before it flattens the batteries? Assume it will then be about 35mpg onwards? I do a few 80 mile trips each week too.
Thanks
As much as I'd like to go for this, without charging it daily its not worth the savings on tax etc. However apparently there is a scheme by which councils can install a public charging point outside your home (as long as they've signed up for it). If that's the case and they agree I'll order one.
I do a 20, each way mile commute everyday, so that would work well for me. However any idea if I have it fully charged how far it will run in hybrid mode before it flattens the batteries? Assume it will then be about 35mpg onwards? I do a few 80 mile trips each week too.
Thanks
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Skoda Octavia
Charging point
Thanks for the replies.
As much as I'd like to go for this, without charging it daily its not worth the savings on tax etc. However apparently there is a scheme by which councils can install a public charging point outside your home (as long as they've signed up for it). If that's the case and they agree I'll order one.
I do a 20, each way mile commute everyday, so that would work well for me. However any idea if I have it fully charged how far it will run in hybrid mode before it flattens the batteries? Assume it will then be about 35mpg onwards? I do a few 80 mile trips each week too.
Thanks
As much as I'd like to go for this, without charging it daily its not worth the savings on tax etc. However apparently there is a scheme by which councils can install a public charging point outside your home (as long as they've signed up for it). If that's the case and they agree I'll order one.
I do a 20, each way mile commute everyday, so that would work well for me. However any idea if I have it fully charged how far it will run in hybrid mode before it flattens the batteries? Assume it will then be about 35mpg onwards? I do a few 80 mile trips each week too.
Thanks
I had a chargemaster unit installed that cost me £200.00, Still not sure if it would have been more cost effective to have just had a plug point installed.
This car is in no way a good choice for high mileage drivers.
Last night I filled up for the first time and it cost me £43.00 for the 435 or so miles I had done. This is about the same as my old Octavia but I have not taken into account the cost of electricity (which actually would not have been more than about £5).
Drove to work in Hybrid today as opposed to pure electric and the engine kicked in a couple of times when I pulled away at roundabouts which I think it probably better.
I really love this car, and after the first 2/3 months of looking at my payslip (I was paying out about £200 POST tax for my old car) I will be happy if things stay the same.
Good luck with the choices.
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Honda Civic 1.6 i-DTEC EX (Replacing with Mercedes C350e Estate)
Another company car driver here....and a new forum member.
Just about to order my c350e estate.
Have there been improvements to the lead times? Is there much difference between the estate and the saloon for lead times to the UK?
Just the Sport spec for me (Tax and cost reasons) but hoping to get the 360 camera and the online services as extras. Getting the brilliant blue
Just about to order my c350e estate.
Have there been improvements to the lead times? Is there much difference between the estate and the saloon for lead times to the UK?
Just the Sport spec for me (Tax and cost reasons) but hoping to get the 360 camera and the online services as extras. Getting the brilliant blue
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W205 c350e, B180CDi, Audi S4 Cabriolet
Hi all
First post here because I finally had my c350e Estate, tannanite grey delivered in Nov 15, after about 10 months on order. I had mine in P+ with all available extras, incl towbar.
On the positive side, its a lovely refined drive with great safety features (the steering and distronic nearly make it a self-driven car in cruise control!); it has excellent rear seat and boot space.
However, the overall MPG is really disappointing at about 32 on a longer journey. Worse still is the electric range, which is the subject of much debate with MB. The car has been in the dealer twice, it still there since before Xmas and their lead mechanic who drove it with me, agrees that the actual range (in ECO etc) is between 6-9 miles, even though they have now apparently managed to get the initial range on 100% charge to show as 17-18 miles. One team in MB agree this is an issue, whilst MB technical in Germany has told the dealer this is the real road conditions, not an EU test! Anyway, I shall keep you updated of progress when I do get the car back.
Anecdotally, I totally agree with Veegtec that the MPG in Charge mode seems a lot lower. According to the manual (which I partly read!), the car should be driven in COMFORT rather than ECO
On a separate note, does anybody have the issue where the PETROL range no longer shows as soon as it reaches the warning range (approx. 60 miles)? I reported this but got laughed at!
First post here because I finally had my c350e Estate, tannanite grey delivered in Nov 15, after about 10 months on order. I had mine in P+ with all available extras, incl towbar.
On the positive side, its a lovely refined drive with great safety features (the steering and distronic nearly make it a self-driven car in cruise control!); it has excellent rear seat and boot space.
However, the overall MPG is really disappointing at about 32 on a longer journey. Worse still is the electric range, which is the subject of much debate with MB. The car has been in the dealer twice, it still there since before Xmas and their lead mechanic who drove it with me, agrees that the actual range (in ECO etc) is between 6-9 miles, even though they have now apparently managed to get the initial range on 100% charge to show as 17-18 miles. One team in MB agree this is an issue, whilst MB technical in Germany has told the dealer this is the real road conditions, not an EU test! Anyway, I shall keep you updated of progress when I do get the car back.
Anecdotally, I totally agree with Veegtec that the MPG in Charge mode seems a lot lower. According to the manual (which I partly read!), the car should be driven in COMFORT rather than ECO
On a separate note, does anybody have the issue where the PETROL range no longer shows as soon as it reaches the warning range (approx. 60 miles)? I reported this but got laughed at!
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My home charger is a tethered Rolec 7KW as I recall, fitted in a couple of hours for £195 - all good. Have tried pre-heat whilst still on the charger and although it is temperamental (the driver's seat heating is always on 3 bars), the 100% elec starting range did not improve (12-14miles shown), even after reset (as MB recommend!)
One other point (I am not a techie so apologies if this is all said in layman terms)... the car does not support rapid charge and as such I was unable to use Ecotricity points (the motorway and major road network, as well as IKEA etc). Email from Ecotricity states:
I understand from your email that you were unable to charge your Mercedes C350e on our charge point at IKEA Southampton. The Mercedes C350e isn’t compatible with our 43Kw AC rapid chargers due to the way the vehicle has been designed by Mercedes. Your vehicle is able to charge on our medium 22Kw chargers (where the lower rate of charge is compatible with your vehicle) using a type 2 Mennekes cable. We don’t have 22kWh chargers available at every location – this is because we’re focussed on providing rapid charging to allow compatible vehicles to charge in around 30 minutes. You can check where our 22kWh chargers are located using our online map - these chargers are shown at sites with blue pins and are separate to the rapid chargers coloured green and yellow.
Probably not as much of an issue as I initially thought, since you can set 'CHARGE' mode whilst driving, although of course a further downside to MPG.
One other point (I am not a techie so apologies if this is all said in layman terms)... the car does not support rapid charge and as such I was unable to use Ecotricity points (the motorway and major road network, as well as IKEA etc). Email from Ecotricity states:
I understand from your email that you were unable to charge your Mercedes C350e on our charge point at IKEA Southampton. The Mercedes C350e isn’t compatible with our 43Kw AC rapid chargers due to the way the vehicle has been designed by Mercedes. Your vehicle is able to charge on our medium 22Kw chargers (where the lower rate of charge is compatible with your vehicle) using a type 2 Mennekes cable. We don’t have 22kWh chargers available at every location – this is because we’re focussed on providing rapid charging to allow compatible vehicles to charge in around 30 minutes. You can check where our 22kWh chargers are located using our online map - these chargers are shown at sites with blue pins and are separate to the rapid chargers coloured green and yellow.
Probably not as much of an issue as I initially thought, since you can set 'CHARGE' mode whilst driving, although of course a further downside to MPG.
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I'm getting the feeling that they might as well have just made this a normal hybrid car which would have gotten about the same real world mpg? I guess that would have been ok in itself. The plugin aspect seems like a waste in this car. Certainly hardly worth bothering with. In other words it seems that you might as well just set it for self charging hybrid style operation and never plug it in. Am I missing something?
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I had the problem with this morning with the petrol range not displaying once it warned I need to refill the tank, I agree that is crazy I didn't know what my situation was, if it is 60 miles on average at this point it is worth knowing although that can change depending on the way you drive I guess. Never had a car do that before and it wasn't a nice feeling!!!
I don't think charging the car from the engine is a good idea, I agree the electric range is poor to say the least but charging from the engine is not worth the cost.
I don't think charging the car from the engine is a good idea, I agree the electric range is poor to say the least but charging from the engine is not worth the cost.
