Squeaking noise after lowering with H&R
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Squeaking noise after lowering with H&R
Hi guys,
I lowered my car a couple of days ago, with H&R lowering springs.
Almost straight after, just a couple of KM after we installed it at the shop.
It started squeaking from the front of the car, first it sounded like it was coming from the center of the dashboard just underneath the window.
I'we had the car on the lift again, to check that everything was mounted correctly and that all the bolts were tightened. And everything looked perfect. The springs were seated correctly in the seat beds.
The whole job was a very simple task, so there isn't a lot that could go wrong. Especially in the front, there just the wheels of, taking out the 1 bolt at the bottom of the coil, and then just 3 simple nuts at the top.
Has anybody had anything like this? The car is still like new, only about 2000km on the clock. Is it the ball-joints, the bushings? Maybe cause they work in a different "area" then they are used to?
I need to get this sorted out, I HATE when cars are making noises, esp when I just bought the car brand new..
Grateful for any help and experiences like this.
I lowered my car a couple of days ago, with H&R lowering springs.
Almost straight after, just a couple of KM after we installed it at the shop.
It started squeaking from the front of the car, first it sounded like it was coming from the center of the dashboard just underneath the window.
I'we had the car on the lift again, to check that everything was mounted correctly and that all the bolts were tightened. And everything looked perfect. The springs were seated correctly in the seat beds.
The whole job was a very simple task, so there isn't a lot that could go wrong. Especially in the front, there just the wheels of, taking out the 1 bolt at the bottom of the coil, and then just 3 simple nuts at the top.
Has anybody had anything like this? The car is still like new, only about 2000km on the clock. Is it the ball-joints, the bushings? Maybe cause they work in a different "area" then they are used to?
I need to get this sorted out, I HATE when cars are making noises, esp when I just bought the car brand new..
Grateful for any help and experiences like this.
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We have now tried loosen the bolts to some bushings and etc when the car is on a lift with the wheels in normal mode, maybe it could be that there is a pressure in the bushings when everything is working in another angle. But that wasn't the problem either. The shop came to a conclusion that its probably the springs squeaking up against the rubber seat on top.
I have been in contact with H&R, and they are telling me I have to buy a tube that we put on the springs. But not enough that I have to pay extra for the tubes, we have to take appart everything again at a shop, and do another wheel alignment. I'm kinda pissed over this. They should warn you when you buy that this could occur. Then I would have bought it straight away. Its not the money for the tubes, but the whole job off doing everything over again.
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I was with them the whole time, I have myself probalby changed springs / shocks / coilovers on over 10 of my cars. So everything was done as it should and it is a very simple job.
We have now tried loosen the bolts to some bushings and etc when the car is on a lift with the wheels in normal mode, maybe it could be that there is a pressure in the bushings when everything is working in another angle. But that wasn't the problem either. The shop came to a conclusion that its probably the springs squeaking up against the rubber seat on top.
I have been in contact with H&R, and they are telling me I have to buy a tube that we put on the springs. But not enough that I have to pay extra for the tubes, we have to take appart everything again at a shop, and do another wheel alignment. I'm kinda pissed over this. They should warn you when you buy that this could occur. Then I would have bought it straight away. Its not the money for the tubes, but the whole job off doing everything over again.
We have now tried loosen the bolts to some bushings and etc when the car is on a lift with the wheels in normal mode, maybe it could be that there is a pressure in the bushings when everything is working in another angle. But that wasn't the problem either. The shop came to a conclusion that its probably the springs squeaking up against the rubber seat on top.
I have been in contact with H&R, and they are telling me I have to buy a tube that we put on the springs. But not enough that I have to pay extra for the tubes, we have to take appart everything again at a shop, and do another wheel alignment. I'm kinda pissed over this. They should warn you when you buy that this could occur. Then I would have bought it straight away. Its not the money for the tubes, but the whole job off doing everything over again.
It sounds like H&R is guessing and their proposed fix isn't even guaranteed to fix things.
I went down this road before with some aftermarket rims on an Audi 10+ years ago that required hub rings. Alignment and balance was never right after putting those rims on and after $1K+ trying to fix it I finally sold the rims and put the factory ones back on.
Sometimes it's just not worth the trouble.
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I was with them the whole time, I have myself probalby changed springs / shocks / coilovers on over 10 of my cars. So everything was done as it should and it is a very simple job.
We have now tried loosen the bolts to some bushings and etc when the car is on a lift with the wheels in normal mode, maybe it could be that there is a pressure in the bushings when everything is working in another angle. But that wasn't the problem either. The shop came to a conclusion that its probably the springs squeaking up against the rubber seat on top.
I have been in contact with H&R, and they are telling me I have to buy a tube that we put on the springs. But not enough that I have to pay extra for the tubes, we have to take appart everything again at a shop, and do another wheel alignment. I'm kinda pissed over this. They should warn you when you buy that this could occur. Then I would have bought it straight away. Its not the money for the tubes, but the whole job off doing everything over again.
We have now tried loosen the bolts to some bushings and etc when the car is on a lift with the wheels in normal mode, maybe it could be that there is a pressure in the bushings when everything is working in another angle. But that wasn't the problem either. The shop came to a conclusion that its probably the springs squeaking up against the rubber seat on top.
I have been in contact with H&R, and they are telling me I have to buy a tube that we put on the springs. But not enough that I have to pay extra for the tubes, we have to take appart everything again at a shop, and do another wheel alignment. I'm kinda pissed over this. They should warn you when you buy that this could occur. Then I would have bought it straight away. Its not the money for the tubes, but the whole job off doing everything over again.
You dont have to realign when just loosening the struts and fitting them again.
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A lot of times when you lower a car or stiffen a suspension it can cause squeaks. My Subaru was a big pain until I ripped all the interior out and re-padded all of the contact points.
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same thing happened to me. i used vogtland springs and now have the exact same squeak. sounds like its coming from the center console. i was just going to put the stock springs back on. the vogtland springs are way too stiff for me. i like taking corners with them but you feel every bump on the road and it takes big bumps HARD. really hard. so i was just going to swap back to stock and if it continues to squeak i was going to take it to the dealer.
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Lowering springs can cause the anti roll/sway bushings to be noisy. Try lubricating with rubber compatible spray or grease.
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I have now been send rubber tubes from H&R to put on, hopefully that will help. Cause its annoying the **** out of me.
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same thing happened to me. i used vogtland springs and now have the exact same squeak. sounds like its coming from the center console. i was just going to put the stock springs back on. the vogtland springs are way too stiff for me. i like taking corners with them but you feel every bump on the road and it takes big bumps HARD. really hard. so i was just going to swap back to stock and if it continues to squeak i was going to take it to the dealer.
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Just wanted to report that I think I've finally found the problem. After all these times at the workshop, trying to figure out what's wrong. Taking everything apart to be 110% sure everything is correctly mounted. It seems like it has nothing to do with my lowering springs..
I went to my dealership, and went in to the mechanics. They directly found a issue that's been reported on squeaking sounds from the front suspension. And a special lubricant oil is used. They didn't have time to do it there, so they borrowed me the oil and I lubricated it my self. It is the "rubber stop" or what ever it's called. That prevents the damper to fully compress. So I lubricated it as they told me. And for 2 days it's been good.
Pretty annoying from a brand new car, and the mechanics said they had a similar problem with the 204. And all this time I've been having headache over this annoying squeaking time. Well well let just hope this lubrication doesn't wear of to quickly.
I went to my dealership, and went in to the mechanics. They directly found a issue that's been reported on squeaking sounds from the front suspension. And a special lubricant oil is used. They didn't have time to do it there, so they borrowed me the oil and I lubricated it my self. It is the "rubber stop" or what ever it's called. That prevents the damper to fully compress. So I lubricated it as they told me. And for 2 days it's been good.
Pretty annoying from a brand new car, and the mechanics said they had a similar problem with the 204. And all this time I've been having headache over this annoying squeaking time. Well well
let just hope this lubrication doesn't wear of to quickly.
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Just wanted to report that I think I've finally found the problem. After all these times at the workshop, trying to figure out what's wrong. Taking everything apart to be 110% sure everything is correctly mounted. It seems like it has nothing to do with my lowering springs..
I went to my dealership, and went in to the mechanics. They directly found a issue that's been reported on squeaking sounds from the front suspension. And a special lubricant oil is used. They didn't have time to do it there, so they borrowed me the oil and I lubricated it my self. It is the "rubber stop" or what ever it's called. That prevents the damper to fully compress. So I lubricated it as they told me. And for 2 days it's been good.
Pretty annoying from a brand new car, and the mechanics said they had a similar problem with the 204. And all this time I've been having headache over this annoying squeaking time. Well well let just hope this lubrication doesn't wear of to quickly.
I went to my dealership, and went in to the mechanics. They directly found a issue that's been reported on squeaking sounds from the front suspension. And a special lubricant oil is used. They didn't have time to do it there, so they borrowed me the oil and I lubricated it my self. It is the "rubber stop" or what ever it's called. That prevents the damper to fully compress. So I lubricated it as they told me. And for 2 days it's been good.
Pretty annoying from a brand new car, and the mechanics said they had a similar problem with the 204. And all this time I've been having headache over this annoying squeaking time. Well well
let just hope this lubrication doesn't wear of to quickly.As you're now happy with the results, perhaps you can show off a bit with some new photos?
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I know this might sound counter intuitive but if the lubrication does not last try some belt spray. It is elastomer compatible. Contains no seal swell agents & is designed to work really hard for a long time.
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Mine's is squeeking too. Use a rubber hose and slide them up real nice. If it's hard to put in it, just use grease. Upper and lower sides. Now. it's all good. No more squeeking
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Hi am using H&r too.. just want to find out if i got exactly the same as you it.. its 1.2 inch drop front and rear bright blue color of the spring.. also , i find it stiffer compared to stock when the car is on high speed and car can be bouncy coming/approaching bridge or uneven road on HIGH speed... are they normal to h&r for 4matic sports suspension
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Hi am using H&r too.. just want to find out if i got exactly the same as you it.. its 1.2 inch drop front and rear bright blue color of the spring.. also , i find it stiffer compared to stock when the car is on high speed and car can be bouncy coming/approaching bridge or uneven road on HIGH speed... are they normal to h&r for 4matic sports suspension
For my new 4matic I haven't bought any yet, I think I'll wait for the spring to come. Just idiotic for me to lower it before the snow comes
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Just wanted to report that I think I've finally found the problem. After all these times at the workshop, trying to figure out what's wrong. Taking everything apart to be 110% sure everything is correctly mounted. It seems like it has nothing to do with my lowering springs..
I went to my dealership, and went in to the mechanics. They directly found a issue that's been reported on squeaking sounds from the front suspension. And a special lubricant oil is used. They didn't have time to do it there, so they borrowed me the oil and I lubricated it my self. It is the "rubber stop" or what ever it's called. That prevents the damper to fully compress. So I lubricated it as they told me. And for 2 days it's been good.
Pretty annoying from a brand new car, and the mechanics said they had a similar problem with the 204. And all this time I've been having headache over this annoying squeaking time. Well well let just hope this lubrication doesn't wear of to quickly.
I went to my dealership, and went in to the mechanics. They directly found a issue that's been reported on squeaking sounds from the front suspension. And a special lubricant oil is used. They didn't have time to do it there, so they borrowed me the oil and I lubricated it my self. It is the "rubber stop" or what ever it's called. That prevents the damper to fully compress. So I lubricated it as they told me. And for 2 days it's been good.
Pretty annoying from a brand new car, and the mechanics said they had a similar problem with the 204. And all this time I've been having headache over this annoying squeaking time. Well well
let just hope this lubrication doesn't wear of to quickly.
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w205 c400 c63s
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where can i get the belt spray? can you recommend brand? thanks
