Mercedes craps on C class - no carplay till 2017 model year
Here's a few facts:
Apple does not play nice with other companies. Their licensing deals are one sided and costly.
Apple is competing with MB in the autonomous vehicle space and unlike google, they have no intention of making any of their advances open source in order to encourage development of the tech. There is very little benefit to MB from collaborating with Apple on infotainment, telematics, or any other vehicle tech.
1st gen carplay is nothing to write home about and all of these functions are available though the voice activation clients from, Apple, Google, and Samsung.
The overblown screen interface is already dated. Future vehicle tech will all revolve around voice, and gesture control for human controlled vehicles.
The fact that in many large corporations the senior executive are equipped solely with Apple products, or that IT Security does not allow Android devices onto the corporate network due to security concerns, doesn't play into your "middle management" or "no talent" paradime.
I've owned both iPhones and Androids. Vastly prefer IOS. Not trying to make a social statement, just prefer Apple.
samsung phones are state of the art every time. however since they release a new one every 8~12 months, the value plunges ever so fast. so they are not worth it to buy new. it's much better to buy them second hand.
Also, ios eco system is very strong and easy to use. i gotta hand the software side to apple, they got that right.
i'm in my mid 30s, i no longer have time to be messing with custom roms, i just want something that works.
And apple just works.
Apple is sort of like a benz. you pay premium for their eco-system and designs. hardware is similar to entry-level androids. so it's garbage.
benz you get design with fit and finish plus prestige. but hardware? 4 cylinder piece of ***** on a $50k car, LOL.
Agreed. Companies, especially tech companies, are starting to catch onto the BYOD push. I wouldn't say the security is identical. iOS has the edge there.
Essentially.
You're only "locked into" a product if you have specific software or infrastructure hooks that either require a specific phone and OS or your personal organization choices. If you like Facetime and iMessage and Apple Calendar and use iTunes for your movie/music purchases and etc then of course you're going to use an iPhone.
Last edited by pek; Sep 7, 2016 at 02:01 PM.
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I've owned both iPhones and Androids. Vastly prefer IOS. Not trying to make a social statement, just prefer Apple.
i just checked mbusa.com, 2017 CLA does have android auto and apple carplay as a option.
You're only "locked into" a product if you have specific software or infrastructure hooks that either require a specific phone and OS or your personal organization choices. If you like Facetime and iMessage and Apple Calendar and use iTunes for your movie/music purchases and etc then of course you're going to use an iPhone.
Anyone who has spent any time in the Android forums (I'm an ex moderator) knows the sheer volume of devices supported by the OS is enough to make any IT group shiver at thoughts of support, so BYOD is not the norm that I have seen in the field.
Personally, from my perspective in the industry, iPhones are simply easier to deploy and support for IT and the layperson is less apt to run afoul. Performance wise? Give me a rooted Samsung or HTC any day.
Board decided one day we were moving to Apple because a few software engineers used Apple so everyone got a new MacBook and iPhone!
Board decided one day we were moving to Apple because a few software engineers used Apple so everyone got a new MacBook and iPhone!





APPLE ISSUES URGENT IPHONE UPDATE TO FIX SECURITY FLAW
http://6abc.com/technology/dont-igno...pdate/1447137/
used a macbook pro for 3 months, couldn't stand it any longer.
it was very well built compared to any PC laptop, but mac osx was not my cup of tea.
instead i took the it guys to a night out and got them to give me full admin rights on my pc laptop.
now i can watch **** and install whatever i want on my corporate laptop, LOL
i get to play overwatch (awesome game btw) while at work whenever i don't have much to do. yay
Traffic re-routing and navigation with the command system is terrible. Its estimation on traffic volume is always off. Obviously Mercedes Benz is not leveraging the intrusive collection of user data that google or apple uses.
Example 1
Morning commute to work. This takes me about an hour with traffic. No traffic it's only 35 minutes.
Command system always estimates 30 to 35 minutes
Google maps and apple maps will estimate 45 minutes to an hour.
The phone estimate is closer but, the command eventually catches up. As I drive along my morning commute the ETA steadily goes up.
In this example Command is not taking into account any historical averages or user data.
Edit: By the way I'm not trying to pick on the command system. That's just the nature of currently available infotainment and navigation systems for automobiles. It's just natural that a phone with a persistent LTE connection will outperform a system that hits an API every five minutes.
Example 2
Road trip...heading home from Myrtle beach.
Lonely stretch of road leaving Myrtle beach...rarely any cars. Command system shows all green for traffic.
Phone shows all green with a tiny spot of red (heavy traffic) ahead of me. When I get to the spot all I see is a cop who pulled over another driver.
Wow.
Obviously the command system does not leverage user data like a phone can.
I've read and watched a few explanations on CarPlay/Android Auto. It's explained that map integration will combine the map data over mobile network with the GPS antenna of the car and present this to the user through the cars display screen.
This is why smart phone integration into vehicles is so powerful.
Last edited by mjones800; Sep 29, 2016 at 09:53 AM.




It has a touch screen which, for CarPlay, makes more sense than the COMAND jog wheel.
It has a touch screen which, for CarPlay, makes more sense than the COMAND jog wheel.
Traffic re-routing and navigation with the command system is terrible. Its estimation on traffic volume is always off. Obviously Mercedes Benz is not leveraging the intrusive collection of user data that google or apple uses.
Example 1
Morning commute to work. This takes me about an hour with traffic. No traffic it's only 35 minutes.
Command system always estimates 30 to 35 minutes
Google maps and apple maps will estimate 45 minutes to an hour.
The phone estimate is closer but, the command eventually catches up. As I drive along my morning commute the ETA steadily goes up.
In this example Command is not taking into account any historical averages or user data.
Edit: By the way I'm not trying to pick on the command system. That's just the nature of currently available infotainment and navigation systems for automobiles. It's just natural that a phone with a persistent LTE connection will outperform a system that hits an API every five minutes.
Example 2
Road trip...heading home from Myrtle beach.
Lonely stretch of road leaving Myrtle beach...rarely any cars. Command system shows all green for traffic.
Phone shows all green with a tiny spot of red (heavy traffic) ahead of me. When I get to the spot all I see is a cop who pulled over another driver.
Wow.
Obviously the command system does not leverage user data like a phone can.
I've read and watched a few explanations on CarPlay/Android Auto. It's explained that map integration will combine the map data over mobile network with the GPS antenna of the car and present this to the user through the cars display screen.
This is why smart phone integration into vehicles is so powerful.
I'd love to use the maps from my phone, the sheer speed of loading and finding my route is one reason.
My Merc navi sometimes tells me I'm off road. I mentioned it at first service but it didn't improve and when I went to the dealer to see the coupe for my next car I was told it wasn't normal and something should've been done about it. I've got 2 months left, bit late now.

The voice command is rubbish, and it's quicker to type with the dial which itself is painfully slow.
The COMAND is the only thing I don't love about my merc.



