Improve performance: C180 Petrol
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Improve performance: C180 Petrol
So far I'm enjoying my S205 1.6 petrol - in fact no gripes yet
However (rather obviously, I know) - when compared to my 325 it is somewhat lacking when it comes to performance. Getting a larger engine model is in principle for the extra wealthy, as new cars are taxed on a variety of factors, with the largest factors being vehicle weight, CO2 emissions and the biggest hitter: a HP/Kw tax.
Spurred on by a few other recent threads:
Anyone happen to know if the C180 engine has potential for a tune, or even if it's a 'reduced performance' model ? I'm a stranger to performance improvements, having been content to keep my fuel consumption low - but hope for suggestions for a faster ride
However (rather obviously, I know) - when compared to my 325 it is somewhat lacking when it comes to performance. Getting a larger engine model is in principle for the extra wealthy, as new cars are taxed on a variety of factors, with the largest factors being vehicle weight, CO2 emissions and the biggest hitter: a HP/Kw tax.
Spurred on by a few other recent threads:
Anyone happen to know if the C180 engine has potential for a tune, or even if it's a 'reduced performance' model ? I'm a stranger to performance improvements, having been content to keep my fuel consumption low - but hope for suggestions for a faster ride
- C180 - 1.6-liter with 156 HP (115 kW) and 250 Nm (184 lb-ft), fuel consumption of 5 liters / 100 km and CO2 emissions of 116 g/km
- C200 - 2.0-liter with 183 HP (135 kW) and 300 Nm (221 lb-ft), 6.4 liters / 100 km, 120 g/km
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Brabus sounds out of reach, just going by name alone.
Has anyone here chipped or otherwise tuned their C180? Does it affect manufacturers warranty - or are there solutions you use where you remove the tune before a service ?
Has anyone here chipped or otherwise tuned their C180? Does it affect manufacturers warranty - or are there solutions you use where you remove the tune before a service ?
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I have done it, works great, feels like this is the way the car should be delivered. Bought the piggyback box from eBay.de, install wasn't a breeze but not very hard either.
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Thanks everyone for your responses. I kinda guessed that manufacturer won't be overly impressed by tuning attempts, but nice regardless to be certain.
Given that the car shouldn't be in the garage (workshop) frequently the ideal solution sounds like a piggy-back ? Has anyone else chosen a solution based on removing the tune before a service ?
Given that the car shouldn't be in the garage (workshop) frequently the ideal solution sounds like a piggy-back ? Has anyone else chosen a solution based on removing the tune before a service ?
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http://www.cpa-chiptuning.de/en/chip...uning_2357.htm
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I got the Ultra, I dont think the 200 Euro extra would do any noticable difference.
Does not require external Power, however if you are not handy with a spanner you shouldnt attempt to fit it yourself as it requires removal of IC and IC bracket.
Does not require external Power, however if you are not handy with a spanner you shouldnt attempt to fit it yourself as it requires removal of IC and IC bracket.
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Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware of the removal of the IC. I have the installation instructions for the DTE-Box here, and it look like it's plug'n play. Maybe they use different connectors or just don't mention the removal of IC.
Here's a copy of the DTE instructions:
Here's a copy of the DTE instructions:
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Never seen that type of install, dont know why they would use the camshaft sensor.
The connector I am talking about used by the CPA unit is located below the IC, it uses both intake and manifold pressure sensors.
The connector I am talking about used by the CPA unit is located below the IC, it uses both intake and manifold pressure sensors.
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The camshaft sensors are probably used for the box to read the engine rpm
Edit: sorry my bad that's the crankshaft I was thinking about, but then again, you could probably read the engine rpm thru the camshaft sensor to..
Edit: sorry my bad that's the crankshaft I was thinking about, but then again, you could probably read the engine rpm thru the camshaft sensor to..
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2015 w205 C180 AMG line
I have 2015 Mercedes C180 and I am thinking to get chip tuning from CPA PowerBox Ultra or PowerBox Nitro. Does anybody know what would be fuel consuption and accelartaion,I cant find any dyno test on the site?