Burmeister issues and settings
01-07-2016, 02:14 PM
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There are preloaded optimized presets onboard, based on how your installer configured the outputs. Those are a good place to start, and may be all you need. Since the tunings are stored as a computer file, like any computer file you can use "Save As...", give the new tune a new name and save it. Then if you wander too far off into the woods experimenting, just re-load the old file and start over.
Since you're listening to the system as you monkey with stuff, it's pretty intuitive to see what exactly controls what and how each change affects the system overall. You can also "solo" individual speakers or sets of speakers...the tweeters and mids for instance...and just hear those playing, so you can experiment with some EQ, or whatever, and then un-solo everything and see how the performance changes.
I usually start by soloing mids and highs, getting the harshness out, then soloing the bass and midbass, getting the looseness out and tightening the kick drum sound, then I start holistically tweaking the whole system, using several "reference tracks" that I know really well.
Or email me your config file as an attachment and tell me what's bugging you and I'll send you back the revision. It won't be perfect since I can't hear your car, but it will get you close.
Since you're listening to the system as you monkey with stuff, it's pretty intuitive to see what exactly controls what and how each change affects the system overall. You can also "solo" individual speakers or sets of speakers...the tweeters and mids for instance...and just hear those playing, so you can experiment with some EQ, or whatever, and then un-solo everything and see how the performance changes.
I usually start by soloing mids and highs, getting the harshness out, then soloing the bass and midbass, getting the looseness out and tightening the kick drum sound, then I start holistically tweaking the whole system, using several "reference tracks" that I know really well.
Or email me your config file as an attachment and tell me what's bugging you and I'll send you back the revision. It won't be perfect since I can't hear your car, but it will get you close.
as i understand you have to use the app to listen to music if you want to integrate your custom presets correct?
01-07-2016, 02:25 PM
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its a bummer it can't be integrated into iTunes.. i.e.: iTunes has its own eq presets. click "custom1" (one made from the app) and you can still use iTunes.
as i understand you have to use the app to listen to music if you want to integrate your custom presets correct?
as i understand you have to use the app to listen to music if you want to integrate your custom presets correct?
Last edited by Mike5215; 01-07-2016 at 02:29 PM.
01-07-2016, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blackedbenzo
thanks for the help, ill update later when in the car
This was the curve for the Audio 20. That little trough at 4k is key to getting the brassyness out of the mid range.
Last edited by Mike5215; 01-07-2016 at 03:15 PM.
01-11-2016, 05:14 PM
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My best suggestion is under the Audio menu, you can select "Boost" vs. Standard audio levels. Make sure to have your Bluetooth device (iPhone, Samsung, etc.) with at least 1 or two volume bars below the max. That way you won't have any distortion. Once Boost kicks in, you're at at least 50% increase in volume on Bluetooth.
01-11-2016, 05:41 PM
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wow, I have a loaner right now with base audio and I can't believe mercedes put that system in a car. an iHome sounds better than that! not trying to insult anyone with base audio but damn!
01-11-2016, 06:19 PM
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My best suggestion is under the Audio menu, you can select "Boost" vs. Standard audio levels. Make sure to have your Bluetooth device (iPhone, Samsung, etc.) with at least 1 or two volume bars below the max. That way you won't have any distortion. Once Boost kicks in, you're at at least 50% increase in volume on Bluetooth.
yeah unfortunately this isnt an option for USB, which is what i use
01-11-2016, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by topsider
wow, I have a loaner right now with base audio and I can't believe mercedes put that system in a car. an iHome sounds better than that! not trying to insult anyone with base audio but damn!
Audison Prima 8.9, Focal KRS100 4" components in the front door and mirror sail panels, Hertz 4" coaxial in the rear doors, small sub box in the trunk and a custom tune on the Prima would do it.
01-11-2016, 08:02 PM
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I swear I'm not imagining this, but when I first got my car, I felt like the Burmeister was way louder than it is now. I played my music at a very high volume back then, and now it seems like it doesnt get as loud.
Also, has anyone else noticed that when controlling the volume with the knob next to the touchpad that the system is VERY finicky in terms of the bass response? For instance you could have a lot of bass at one particular volume, but move the knob one tick down, and the bass drops substantially? Then move it 1 more tick down and the bass is back close to where it was before?
Finally, what are the optimal settings for mid, treble, and bass settings that you guys have found?
Also, has anyone else noticed that when controlling the volume with the knob next to the touchpad that the system is VERY finicky in terms of the bass response? For instance you could have a lot of bass at one particular volume, but move the knob one tick down, and the bass drops substantially? Then move it 1 more tick down and the bass is back close to where it was before?
Finally, what are the optimal settings for mid, treble, and bass settings that you guys have found?
Have you tried turning off the auto volume noise adjustment option ?
01-12-2016, 08:16 AM
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01-12-2016, 08:19 AM
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It's pretty thin and brassy. I could get a car with that system sounding as nice as a Burmester car, but I'd have to spend more than the entire P1 package that includes the Burmester.
Audison Prima 8.9, Focal KRS100 4" components in the front door and mirror sail panels, Hertz 4" coaxial in the rear doors, small sub box in the trunk and a custom tune on the Prima would do it.
Audison Prima 8.9, Focal KRS100 4" components in the front door and mirror sail panels, Hertz 4" coaxial in the rear doors, small sub box in the trunk and a custom tune on the Prima would do it.
01-12-2016, 08:25 AM
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I have a new S550. I am not thrilled with the sound. I had a 2010 E and the sound was much better. I see in the new S the front speaker on the dash does not run the entire length of the dash, only in front of the driver. The Harman Kardon seemed much stronger. It's good, but not what I would expect for the $$. I might have to enhance it.
02-05-2016, 11:40 PM
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02-06-2016, 02:06 AM
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I seriously thought it was just me , some days I feel like my stereo is so much louder than other days , usually with my iPhone the volume is far from overwhelming at max volume . I'm starting to think it has to do with my phone because a CD for example can get much louder
02-06-2016, 09:19 AM
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Anyone know where the auto volume adjustment is on US models? I thought the dealer would have mentioned something about it by now since I've taken it in 3 times for this issue...
02-06-2016, 10:18 AM
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It's not in any of the sound menus. I can't look it up right now, but I think it's in one of the vehicle settings menus. Make sure it is not checked, since it does degrade the sound quality dramatically.
02-06-2016, 11:13 AM
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Harmon Kardon vs. Burmester
I have a new S550. I am not thrilled with the sound. I had a 2010 E and the sound was much better. I see in the new S the front speaker on the dash does not run the entire length of the dash, only in front of the driver. The Harman Kardon seemed much stronger. It's good, but not what I would expect for the $$. I might have to enhance it.
Worse, the bass obviously emanates from the trunk. It's as obvious as cheap LPs at the beginning of stereo era. Record producers would take a mono recording and create the two stereo channels by using tone controls to boost the treble in the left channel and the bass in the right. You know, violins on the left, low strings on the right!. In the E350, it's treble in front, bass in back.
02-06-2016, 12:36 PM
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why would it degrade the sound at all, all it should be doing is increasing the volume slider automatically with speed/ambient sound?
02-06-2016, 01:11 PM
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02-06-2016, 01:31 PM
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02-06-2016, 02:31 PM
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I would verify the audio source before troubleshooting the system. If the source is mixed mp3 files on a thumb drive the levels on different tracks could vary quite a bit.
OP needs to establish a control audio source, then use that same control for all testing or troubleshooting of the system.
I know this is an obvious 1st principle thing for all you advanced audiophile guys, but it hasn't been mentioned yet.
OP needs to establish a control audio source, then use that same control for all testing or troubleshooting of the system.
I know this is an obvious 1st principle thing for all you advanced audiophile guys, but it hasn't been mentioned yet.
Last edited by Mr. J; 02-06-2016 at 02:41 PM.
