Retrofit CarPlay in W205
#226
Was that through a dealer? If so, where?
#227
Senior Member
the shop was recommended by my local Mercedes Benz dealer. They use a aftermarket shop for extra luxury stuff for Benz here in China. Its actually West Coast Customs division in Shanghai that did it for me.. Took 4 hrs to install.. Took a long time due to firmware update being slow with internet connection between China and Germany...
#228
Are both options official Mercedes solutions? Is the new head unit the bigger version in the new models or just the same ones with different programming?
#229
Senior Member
2nd is from Benz. Mine is made in Czech see photos enclosed
#230
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As i have been telling people , i doubt there will be an official retrofit as the whole head unit must be replaced.
But it is literally as simple as swapping head unit and card reader and a code. THen you have car play.
#231
Senior Member
This what I got installed. Numbers are on the photo.
My Benz guy told me numbers might vary from country to country.
Keep jn mind my car was built in the Beijing plant in China.
My Benz guy told me numbers might vary from country to country.
Keep jn mind my car was built in the Beijing plant in China.
can you verify part numbers on both of those components for us? What are they?
As i have been telling people , i doubt there will be an official retrofit as the whole head unit must be replaced.
But it is literally as simple as swapping head unit and card reader and a code. THen you have car play.
As i have been telling people , i doubt there will be an official retrofit as the whole head unit must be replaced.
But it is literally as simple as swapping head unit and card reader and a code. THen you have car play.
#232
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yep looks good. thanks!! yes it is true that different segments of world have different part numbers for same part. But usually there is only one digit that is different.
This confirms everything for me. SO all they did was change the card reader and radio? Anything else? did they change wiring from card reader to radio? What about backup camera? did they change that?
Does everything work as it did before?
This confirms everything for me. SO all they did was change the card reader and radio? Anything else? did they change wiring from card reader to radio? What about backup camera? did they change that?
Does everything work as it did before?
#233
Senior Member
yep looks good. thanks!! yes it is true that different segments of world have different part numbers for same part. But usually there is only one digit that is different.
This confirms everything for me. SO all they did was change the card reader and radio? Anything else? did they change wiring from card reader to radio? What about backup camera? did they change that?
Does everything work as it did before?
This confirms everything for me. SO all they did was change the card reader and radio? Anything else? did they change wiring from card reader to radio? What about backup camera? did they change that?
Does everything work as it did before?
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#234
Thanks.
#235
Senior Member
i bought mine from Westcoast customs in Shanghai. I can ask them if they can ship to US or maybe you can get from westcoast customs in USA.
The coding was done by Westcoast they have access to the Benz system to upgrade the unit
#236
I am from melbourne, Australia. Not sure if we have westcoast here. Would appreciate if we know how much it costs for the headunit and card reader? I know you said your's cost 900$ but that included installing. What exactly do you mean by coding? You mean to say the headunit should be coded to our car's VIN number?
#237
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I am from melbourne, Australia. Not sure if we have westcoast here. Would appreciate if we know how much it costs for the headunit and card reader? I know you said your's cost 900$ but that included installing. What exactly do you mean by coding? You mean to say the headunit should be coded to our car's VIN number?
I am not sure if the asia version head unit will work for you. it may work just fine. i know the USA part number is different.
#238
Senior Member
Coding is the wrong term. Its firmware flash.
They an open some more menus. I got illumination as an aftermarket install... they had to open the software to access the illumination menu etc.
900$ was incl install... Keep in mind installs are damn cheap in china due low labor cost.
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2015 c220cdi 7g avangarde
How can I check which NTG I have in my car - 2/2015, w205 C220d, audio 20cd with touchpad, option 522 522AUDIO 20 RADIO NAVIGATION CAPABLE NTG5 - https://www.datamb.com/vin/8MjxRadXjxB2eoXrm ? I suppose 5*2. :/
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#240
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Got some awesome news for those with 2018 C-Sedans or Coupes.
Visited the specialized Benz auto tech thats mentioned often here (dude is a guru) and found out theres currently a retrofit being specifically developed for those with NTG 5.5 COMAND systems (basically 2018 C class with the Multimedia package and bigger screen). Supposed to be ready to go in a few weeks. Cool thing is, theres no risk of voiding the warranty as its hidden away in the console but utilizes the same USB ports you'd normally use. It's basically programmed where you hold a particular button and carplay comes right up. Only annoyance is that it's not directly integrated into the Mercedes interface (this would require literally swapping out the whole radio, cutting wires, running upwards of 7 or 8k and voiding your warranty), which is not a huge deal to me. Just wanted to let you all know .
Visited the specialized Benz auto tech thats mentioned often here (dude is a guru) and found out theres currently a retrofit being specifically developed for those with NTG 5.5 COMAND systems (basically 2018 C class with the Multimedia package and bigger screen). Supposed to be ready to go in a few weeks. Cool thing is, theres no risk of voiding the warranty as its hidden away in the console but utilizes the same USB ports you'd normally use. It's basically programmed where you hold a particular button and carplay comes right up. Only annoyance is that it's not directly integrated into the Mercedes interface (this would require literally swapping out the whole radio, cutting wires, running upwards of 7 or 8k and voiding your warranty), which is not a huge deal to me. Just wanted to let you all know .
#242
Got some awesome news for those with 2018 C-Sedans or Coupes.
Visited the specialized Benz auto tech thats mentioned often here (dude is a guru) and found out theres currently a retrofit being specifically developed for those with NTG 5.5 COMAND systems (basically 2018 C class with the Multimedia package and bigger screen). Supposed to be ready to go in a few weeks. Cool thing is, theres no risk of voiding the warranty as its hidden away in the console but utilizes the same USB ports you'd normally use. It's basically programmed where you hold a particular button and carplay comes right up. Only annoyance is that it's not directly integrated into the Mercedes interface (this would require literally swapping out the whole radio, cutting wires, running upwards of 7 or 8k and voiding your warranty), which is not a huge deal to me. Just wanted to let you all know .
Visited the specialized Benz auto tech thats mentioned often here (dude is a guru) and found out theres currently a retrofit being specifically developed for those with NTG 5.5 COMAND systems (basically 2018 C class with the Multimedia package and bigger screen). Supposed to be ready to go in a few weeks. Cool thing is, theres no risk of voiding the warranty as its hidden away in the console but utilizes the same USB ports you'd normally use. It's basically programmed where you hold a particular button and carplay comes right up. Only annoyance is that it's not directly integrated into the Mercedes interface (this would require literally swapping out the whole radio, cutting wires, running upwards of 7 or 8k and voiding your warranty), which is not a huge deal to me. Just wanted to let you all know .
#243
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updating the thread later this week
https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...attempt-3.html
performing carplay upgrade on 2017 c43
https://mbworld.org/forums/c450-c43-...attempt-3.html
performing carplay upgrade on 2017 c43
#244
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Dear,
From middle 2017, W205 with MY808 and 522 has an option like '154' .
This 154 means that the manufacturer was changed from MELCO to PANASONIC, only for Entry models ( Audio20 ).
This new Panasonic Entry HU become NTG5s2 and has the same HW as Panasonic NTG5s1 from A, B, CLA, GLA, ML/GLE.
So, any W205, W253, V447 with Audio 20 can be retrofitted with new Entry HU. No extra harness, no new SD reader, only a new, genuine, no activated NTG5s1 Garmin SD Card for offline maps.
Any software attempts on old HU ( from MELCO ) has nothing to do with Carplay/Android Auto.
Hope this clarify all the aspects,
From middle 2017, W205 with MY808 and 522 has an option like '154' .
This 154 means that the manufacturer was changed from MELCO to PANASONIC, only for Entry models ( Audio20 ).
This new Panasonic Entry HU become NTG5s2 and has the same HW as Panasonic NTG5s1 from A, B, CLA, GLA, ML/GLE.
So, any W205, W253, V447 with Audio 20 can be retrofitted with new Entry HU. No extra harness, no new SD reader, only a new, genuine, no activated NTG5s1 Garmin SD Card for offline maps.
Any software attempts on old HU ( from MELCO ) has nothing to do with Carplay/Android Auto.
Hope this clarify all the aspects,
i have found the wiring from the headunit to USB must be replaced with new part number and usb hub or the wiring must be changed. I could not get carplay to work with old usb hub. How did you get to work? Did you change wiring?
#245
Response from MB uk regarding car play
Thank you for contacting Mercedes-Benz Customer Service.
I am writing in response to your enquiry regarding Apple CarPlay and your C-Class Model. I can confirm that C-Class Models post June 2017 are compatible with Apple CarPlay (this can be found on page 67 of the June 2017 brochure and page 35 of the June 2018 brochure). It would appear that the Apple website listing compatible Mercedes-Benz vehicles is out of date.
The reason previous C-Class Models were not fitted with Apple CarPlay was neither a software nor a hardware issue. At the time your car was produced it was simply not an optional extra for C-Class vehicles. However, as stated above, our current C-Class Models do offer the possibility of integrating your Apple products.
As per your request, your feedback on this issue has been escalated to the highest level. I understand your frustration regarding this matter, and I can assure you that your feedback will be taken seriously by Mercedes-Benz Customer Service.
Should you have any further requirements, please do not hesitate to contact me or any of my colleagues.
Yours sincerely,
Customer Service UK
I am intrigued it says this is not a hardware or software issue but based on some messages on the forums it seems that is both .. would get back to them...
Thank you for contacting Mercedes-Benz Customer Service.
I am writing in response to your enquiry regarding Apple CarPlay and your C-Class Model. I can confirm that C-Class Models post June 2017 are compatible with Apple CarPlay (this can be found on page 67 of the June 2017 brochure and page 35 of the June 2018 brochure). It would appear that the Apple website listing compatible Mercedes-Benz vehicles is out of date.
The reason previous C-Class Models were not fitted with Apple CarPlay was neither a software nor a hardware issue. At the time your car was produced it was simply not an optional extra for C-Class vehicles. However, as stated above, our current C-Class Models do offer the possibility of integrating your Apple products.
As per your request, your feedback on this issue has been escalated to the highest level. I understand your frustration regarding this matter, and I can assure you that your feedback will be taken seriously by Mercedes-Benz Customer Service.
Should you have any further requirements, please do not hesitate to contact me or any of my colleagues.
Yours sincerely,
Customer Service UK
I am intrigued it says this is not a hardware or software issue but based on some messages on the forums it seems that is both .. would get back to them...
#246
Former Vendor of MBWorld
Carplay Box
Dear all
We offer the Carplay box for Mercedes C Class W205 and GLC, it has build in Carplay, Android Auto, Mirrolink and parking guide line function, suitable for car with original 7.2'' or 8.4'' screen, please let us know your car is 7.2'' screen(audio 20) or 8.4'' screen(command online) if you want to buy so we can send you correct goods.
Product link: https://www.sardincar.com/mercedes-b...x253-gla-x156/
Price inquiry please email us: sales@sardincar.com
We offer the Carplay box for Mercedes C Class W205 and GLC, it has build in Carplay, Android Auto, Mirrolink and parking guide line function, suitable for car with original 7.2'' or 8.4'' screen, please let us know your car is 7.2'' screen(audio 20) or 8.4'' screen(command online) if you want to buy so we can send you correct goods.
Product link: https://www.sardincar.com/mercedes-b...x253-gla-x156/
Price inquiry please email us: sales@sardincar.com
#247
New here. Recently got my hands on a late 2014 C Class with Premium Plus. Lovely car but don’t really like the navi system and expensive live traffic.
Found a a couple of CarPlay retrofit products but couldn’t find much discussion here. Any thoughts?
£480: Braybrooks:
http://www.braybrooks.co.uk/product/...s-with-comand/
£406: Unique Auto Developments
https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/merc...tion-retrofit/
Found a a couple of CarPlay retrofit products but couldn’t find much discussion here. Any thoughts?
£480: Braybrooks:
http://www.braybrooks.co.uk/product/...s-with-comand/
£406: Unique Auto Developments
https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/merc...tion-retrofit/
#248
New here. Recently got my hands on a late 2014 C Class with Premium Plus. Lovely car but don’t really like the navi system and expensive live traffic.
Found a a couple of CarPlay retrofit products but couldn’t find much discussion here. Any thoughts?
£480: Braybrooks:
http://www.braybrooks.co.uk/product/...s-with-comand/
£406: Unique Auto Developments
https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/merc...tion-retrofit/
Found a a couple of CarPlay retrofit products but couldn’t find much discussion here. Any thoughts?
£480: Braybrooks:
http://www.braybrooks.co.uk/product/...s-with-comand/
£406: Unique Auto Developments
https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/merc...tion-retrofit/
#249
Former Vendor of MBWorld
Re:
https://www.sardincar.com/mercedes-b...x253-gla-x156/
#250
Senior Member
When Apple's next IOS update comes out Carplay is supposed to support Google maps and Waze. Will your Carplay box support those in Carplay mode or only using Mirorlink?