Non-run flats for my C?
#1
Non-run flats for my C?
Just took my lease last Thursday. Love the car but knowing that the run flats will probably wear out before the 36k miles (I've heard anywhere from 10k - 25k) I figure I'll get non-run flats and store the OEMs. I'm considering the BFGoodrich G-Force Comp-2 A/S. Tirerack has them for $633 (but $583 with a mail-in rebate). Anyway are these a bad choice?
#2
I have a set of staggered 18's for sale with less than 400 miles on them, purchased and mounted 4/15/16. Replaced last Saturday. Great riding tire but a little chunky looking for my taste. I replaced them with Michelin Pilot SuperSports which look better but cost more and don't ride quite as nice
$500 shipped for the set. PM me if interested.
$500 shipped for the set. PM me if interested.
Last edited by Mike5215; 05-02-2016 at 09:09 PM.
#3
So I've just been informed that since the tires are staggered they can't be rotated. Not sure why I'm just now seeing that. So this leads me to ask: is it possible to switch to a non-staggered setup? Are there any possibilities of damaging the car?
Edit: I'm reading in a few places that it's ok to use the 225/45ZR18 (front) tires in the rear as well, even though the rear is slightly wider because this is done for winter tires. So the assumption is if winter tires are non-staggered then all season tires could be non-staggered as well. Then I could rotate and get 40k+ miles out of the tires.
Edit: I'm reading in a few places that it's ok to use the 225/45ZR18 (front) tires in the rear as well, even though the rear is slightly wider because this is done for winter tires. So the assumption is if winter tires are non-staggered then all season tires could be non-staggered as well. Then I could rotate and get 40k+ miles out of the tires.
Last edited by mmccaskill; 05-03-2016 at 12:53 AM. Reason: Additional information
#4
Yeah you could go square. No harm to the car either way. You'd want to replace the rear rims to match the width of the fronts though. Maybe EBay if you didn't want a whole new set of wheels. Staggered halves the tread life of any tire.
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#6
Originally Posted by mmccaskill
See I would assume I wouldn't as the snow tires are all the same size. I guess I'll call the dealer and ask.
#7
So does that mean if I wanted to put winter tires on then I'd have to get new rear rims?
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#8
Or don't rotate the snows. I'm kind of immune to tire sticker shock. My 221 went through $700 a set rears every 9k miles. But I'd just run staggered and live with the reduced tread life. You'll end up buying a set of tires before lease turn in regardless.
A tire manufacturer's tread life warranty lasts right down to the wear bars, but your lease close out requirements likely stipulate 4 good tires with some life left on them.
A tire manufacturer's tread life warranty lasts right down to the wear bars, but your lease close out requirements likely stipulate 4 good tires with some life left on them.
Last edited by Mike5215; 05-03-2016 at 11:50 AM.
#9
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2015 C300 Sport: Palladium, Premium, Multimedia, Leather, BLIS
Your OEM rear wheels will accommodate the narrower size, so you can run the same size tires on the wheels that the car comes with. I run the same size snow tires on both axles, which is what the factory recommends, with no adverse effects. Because of the staggered wheel sizes, I obviously can not do a tire rotation with either the snows or regular tires.
#10
Ok basically it seems that with the 18" AMG wheels it is not possible to have non-staggered tires then, right? If so then it really doesn't make sense to buy new tires right now since staggered can't be rotated it'd be a wasted of money.
#11
Right. The only rationale for replacing the run flats now and storing them for lease turn in later would be to get the improved ride and lower noise from non run flats, since you're going to be buying a set of tires at some point during the lease. If you like the RFs just run them down to the wear bars and then replace them when the time comes.
#13
Are there reasons not to like the OEM run-flat tires? For example, are there replacement tires for the C300 that are quieter, brake better, and handle better (all 3)? I always wonder about that because I generally assume that that the manufacturer knows how to strike a good balance on everything as they designed the car at the first place.
#14
Originally Posted by WhoIsThat
Are there reasons not to like the OEM run-flat tires? For example, are there replacement tires for the C300 that are quieter, brake better, and handle better (all 3)? I always wonder about that because I generally assume that that the manufacturer knows how to strike a good balance on everything as they designed the car at the first place.
So it becomes a question of which run flat sucks the least in terms of ride, noise and wear and which tire manufacturers can come in with the best price on 100,000 of them.
Objectively, the minute I drove the C Class I knew the tires sucked. Too stiff and too noisy. Obviously if a tire is stiff enough to hold up a two ton car whether it has air in it or not...
But run-flats or not they had to go. I absolutely love the car on 18" Michelin Pilot Super Sports and AirMatic. Handles great, very smooth and quiet. Totally different car.
Second choice would be the BFGs, only because they're a little funky looking, but they're every bit as good as the Michelins on the road.
#15
Are there reasons not to like the OEM run-flat tires? For example, are there replacement tires for the C300 that are quieter, brake better, and handle better (all 3)? I always wonder about that because I generally assume that that the manufacturer knows how to strike a good balance on everything as they designed the car at the first place.
#17
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2022 E53 AMG, 2020 C63s AMG, 2015 C400
I went with Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 because I live in Utah up on the east bench of the rocky mtns.
the OEM Pirelli lasted 11k miles and never were very pleasing.
new tires are a remarkable improvement.
IMO Pilot Super Sport are a bit overkill unless you have winter wheels and tires. Then they are a great option
the OEM Pirelli lasted 11k miles and never were very pleasing.
new tires are a remarkable improvement.
IMO Pilot Super Sport are a bit overkill unless you have winter wheels and tires. Then they are a great option
#18
I went with Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 because I live in Utah up on the east bench of the rocky mtns.
the OEM Pirelli lasted 11k miles and never were very pleasing.
new tires are a remarkable improvement.
IMO Pilot Super Sport are a bit overkill unless you have winter wheels and tires. Then they are a great option
the OEM Pirelli lasted 11k miles and never were very pleasing.
new tires are a remarkable improvement.
IMO Pilot Super Sport are a bit overkill unless you have winter wheels and tires. Then they are a great option
#19
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From: SLC, Utah
2022 E53 AMG, 2020 C63s AMG, 2015 C400
#20
All season makes more sense for me. Yeah I've heard good things about the P Zeros, too. Just trying to not have to spend $1k every 10k miles on tires lol.
#21
Yeah the MPSS are discontinued in the 18" size for our staggered fronts. TireRack still has some and then they're gone for good. I've run SS on everything I've owned since '07 (mostly S Class)
and aside from the rather brief lifespan on the rears and the price I've always been happy with them. They probably are overkill on a C but they're my kind of overkill
and aside from the rather brief lifespan on the rears and the price I've always been happy with them. They probably are overkill on a C but they're my kind of overkill
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#23
Hmmm that's interesting. My OEMs are the P7s and the tread looks almost like the PZero. Did you also have the P7s originally? Also did you have your MB dealer put them on or an independent shop? I've read some independent shops refuse to put non-run flats on cars that have OEM run flats.
#24
Hmmm that's interesting. My OEMs are the P7s and the tread looks almost like the PZero. Did you also have the P7s originally? Also did you have your MB dealer put them on or an independent shop? I've read some independent shops refuse to put non-run flats on cars that have OEM run flats.
#25
I had the conti runflats at first. they sucked. The P7's are also grand touring tires where as the Pzero's are "ultra-high performance" all seasons, so there will definitely be a difference. I had them installed at my dealer only because I was having 3 bent rims fixed (caused by the stupid runflats) at the same time.