New device to disable Eco start stop
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Anyone else concerned with just the normal wear and tear that the turning off and on does to the motor and other components?
If you consider the starter alone (I'm assuming this is used to start the car after ECO shutoff), there are only so many times it is going to work, so this is accelerating the breakdown of the starter. In addition, I've always understood that starting your engine creates additional wear and tear.
So I'm more concerned with the wear and tear to the components than I am about the minimal gas mileage savings.
If you consider the starter alone (I'm assuming this is used to start the car after ECO shutoff), there are only so many times it is going to work, so this is accelerating the breakdown of the starter. In addition, I've always understood that starting your engine creates additional wear and tear.
So I'm more concerned with the wear and tear to the components than I am about the minimal gas mileage savings.
#54
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It stands to reason that the Starter motor has a finite number of cycles in it before it fails, so you're right...it likely hastens the failure to some extent. I never own a Benz once it's out of warranty but for those planning to hang on to theirs it's a consideration.
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8 Second Demo Video Here!
PURCHASE YOURS HERE!
Also, use coupon code MBWSEP10 for 10% off your purchase made in the month of September 2018!
Compatibility
ECO205
C Class sedan 2015-2018
C Class coupe 2016-2018
GLC 2015-2018
E Class 2017-2018
ECO212
C Class sedan 2012-2014
C Class coupe 2012-2015
CLA 2015-2018
CLS 2013-2018
E Class 2012-2016
G Wagon 2014-2018
GLK 2012-2015
GL 2012-2016
GLE 2016-2018
GLS 2016-2018
GLA 2015-2018
ML 2012-2015
Metris 2016-2018
SL 2013-2018
SLK 2012-2016
ECO222
S Class 2014-2018
GT S 2014-2018
ECO221
S Class 2012-2013
CL 2012-2013
#63
I wouldn't buy that device, but that's just me. This fix personally worked for me and it's free: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...rt-stop-2.html
#64
Senior Member
Or make one of these and adapt it to your car, seeing that the Smart is Mercedes the tech used should be the same.
https://www.evilution.co.uk/electric...f_at_start.htm
From what I can gather this little made up unit unit sends the canbus a signal just like you pressing the button to turn off the stop start, every time you start the car, then if you want the stop start feature for any reason ( I dont know why), then you can press the button to activate it, the way it should have come from the factory, as a option that you can activate if wanted.
I would say that the $150 OBD dongle does the same thing by sending a command to the canbus to deactivate stop start at start up just the same signal as if the button was pressed.
https://www.evilution.co.uk/electric...f_at_start.htm
From what I can gather this little made up unit unit sends the canbus a signal just like you pressing the button to turn off the stop start, every time you start the car, then if you want the stop start feature for any reason ( I dont know why), then you can press the button to activate it, the way it should have come from the factory, as a option that you can activate if wanted.
I would say that the $150 OBD dongle does the same thing by sending a command to the canbus to deactivate stop start at start up just the same signal as if the button was pressed.
Last edited by prktkljokr; 10-04-2020 at 10:35 AM.
#66
Senior Member
We all know you can use your hand, finger, mind control, whatever.
But I think the whole exercise of this thread was to find a way to deactivate it permanently for those who think that it should not have been a forced option, I myself dont like it, in my Merc I push the button, but in My Smart MHD which does a lot of short trips, stop start driving (having to start the car up to 20 times a day), I chose to use this little board to deactivate it, cost me like $9 AU ($4.50 US) to throw together, it does not alter any of the workings of the car just sends the signal to switch off, I dont have to think about it, I dont forget it, it just works, the way it should have come rather than just being on when I start.
Me personally, it annoys me that its even in the car, and when you buy the car it just comes with it, you dont have the choice.
I would have preferred that it had a switch in the dash to activate the option permanently or deactivate permanently, or a option in the menu like so many other options that I can program myself, we all know its there to show that the manufacturer is trying to make the car produce less emissions, im sure they dont care really how much fuel you use and the cost savings of having it are minimal, in the smart over its lifetime I might save $200, but it would cost me much more in maintenance by having it.
But I think the whole exercise of this thread was to find a way to deactivate it permanently for those who think that it should not have been a forced option, I myself dont like it, in my Merc I push the button, but in My Smart MHD which does a lot of short trips, stop start driving (having to start the car up to 20 times a day), I chose to use this little board to deactivate it, cost me like $9 AU ($4.50 US) to throw together, it does not alter any of the workings of the car just sends the signal to switch off, I dont have to think about it, I dont forget it, it just works, the way it should have come rather than just being on when I start.
Me personally, it annoys me that its even in the car, and when you buy the car it just comes with it, you dont have the choice.
I would have preferred that it had a switch in the dash to activate the option permanently or deactivate permanently, or a option in the menu like so many other options that I can program myself, we all know its there to show that the manufacturer is trying to make the car produce less emissions, im sure they dont care really how much fuel you use and the cost savings of having it are minimal, in the smart over its lifetime I might save $200, but it would cost me much more in maintenance by having it.
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#67
We all know you can use your hand, finger, mind control, whatever.
But I think the whole exercise of this thread was to find a way to deactivate it permanently for those who think that it should not have been a forced option, I myself dont like it, in my Merc I push the button, but in My Smart MHD which does a lot of short trips, stop start driving (having to start the car up to 20 times a day), I chose to use this little board to deactivate it, cost me like $9 AU ($4.50 US) to throw together, it does not alter any of the workings of the car just sends the signal to switch off, I dont have to think about it, I dont forget it, it just works, the way it should have come rather than just being on when I start.
Me personally, it annoys me that its even in the car, and when you buy the car it just comes with it, you dont have the choice.
I would have preferred that it had a switch in the dash to activate the option permanently or deactivate permanently, or a option in the menu like so many other options that I can program myself, we all know its there to show that the manufacturer is trying to make the car produce less emissions, im sure they dont care really how much fuel you use and the cost savings of having it are minimal, in the smart over its lifetime I might save $200, but it would cost me much more in maintenance by having it.
But I think the whole exercise of this thread was to find a way to deactivate it permanently for those who think that it should not have been a forced option, I myself dont like it, in my Merc I push the button, but in My Smart MHD which does a lot of short trips, stop start driving (having to start the car up to 20 times a day), I chose to use this little board to deactivate it, cost me like $9 AU ($4.50 US) to throw together, it does not alter any of the workings of the car just sends the signal to switch off, I dont have to think about it, I dont forget it, it just works, the way it should have come rather than just being on when I start.
Me personally, it annoys me that its even in the car, and when you buy the car it just comes with it, you dont have the choice.
I would have preferred that it had a switch in the dash to activate the option permanently or deactivate permanently, or a option in the menu like so many other options that I can program myself, we all know its there to show that the manufacturer is trying to make the car produce less emissions, im sure they dont care really how much fuel you use and the cost savings of having it are minimal, in the smart over its lifetime I might save $200, but it would cost me much more in maintenance by having it.
So for the ignorant egoist people here who thinks the start-stop is a good thing and it's as simple as pushing a button, try driving your car in a county where the traffic is 10 times worse that in Europe and North America.
Don't preach to people and let them do what they want to do with their cars, period.
#68
Super Member
Anyone else concerned with just the normal wear and tear that the turning off and on does to the motor and other components?
If you consider the starter alone (I'm assuming this is used to start the car after ECO shutoff), there are only so many times it is going to work, so this is accelerating the breakdown of the starter. In addition, I've always understood that starting your engine creates additional wear and tear.
So I'm more concerned with the wear and tear to the components than I am about the minimal gas mileage savings.
If you consider the starter alone (I'm assuming this is used to start the car after ECO shutoff), there are only so many times it is going to work, so this is accelerating the breakdown of the starter. In addition, I've always understood that starting your engine creates additional wear and tear.
So I'm more concerned with the wear and tear to the components than I am about the minimal gas mileage savings.
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