48v issue problem
#51
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This place is a joke.
You know you point out that Chassis often mentions that his opinion of modern MB isn't very high. You'd be correct. Just re-read your responses in this very thread. Lewis Hamilton, hybrid in F1 first, blah blah over and over. Pot calling..something something black. You can't seem to help mentioning your engineer father in any section of this forum where someone is critical of MB. It's tiresome to read a thread irrespective of who's on repeat so perhaps don't perpetuate it.
FYI, Chassis is clueless and keeps recycling the same old, tired anti-MB rhetoric. The 48V hybrid system in the W206 is the same hybrid system that's been in the MB Formula 1 cars for a number of years now. This is the same configuration that Lewis Hamilton has won 7 FIA world championships with. The Formula 1 cars are a developmental engineering test bed whose technology eventually makes its way to the road going cars. My engineer father always taught me to never buy the first year of a new model as there are always unforeseen glitched that need to be worked out.
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#52
FYI, Chassis is clueless and keeps recycling the same old, tired anti-MB rhetoric. The 48V hybrid system in the W206 is the same hybrid system that's been in the MB Formula 1 cars for a number of years now. This is the same configuration that Lewis Hamilton has won 7 FIA world championships with. The Formula 1 cars are a developmental engineering test bed whose technology eventually makes its way to the road going cars. My engineer father always taught me to never buy the first year of a new model as there are always unforeseen glitched that need to be worked out.
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#53
Your own words make it abundantly clear that you're not an engineer and you have no clue to what you're talking about. You have no business being an MB World Ambassador because all you do is post your clueless MB attacks. Unlike you, my engineer father had bachelors and masters degrees in engineering, more than 40 years of aviation and automotive engineering work experience and was a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers. You have no such resume. For the record again, the 48v hybrid system now in the W206 is the hybrid system that's been extensively tested in Formula 1 by MB for years. It's abundantly clear that you don't follow Formula 1 either so you have no clue about that as well. I'm tired of your clueless anti MB rants and I have every right to call you out on it.
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#55
I spoke with a lemon law attorney who is very well aware of the 48V issue. For CA, you have a solid case if you have 3 documented trips to the shop on the defect.
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chassis (08-11-2022)
#56
For California, I "think" it's three major attempts and/or 30 days in the shop. I had an Audi bought back due to time. Somewhere I have an impressive picture of the entire interior removed and on the shop floor.
#57
Does the 30 day include time sitting in the shop due to massive dealer backlog of other cars in line waiting to get fixed?
#59
In California, the car has to be at the dealer for 30 days. the days do not have to be conssecutive.
here are the provisions of the California Lemon Law:
California Lemon Law
The California Lemon Law (Civ. Code, § 1793.2 et seq.) protects you when your vehicle is defective and cannot be repaired after a “reasonable” number of attempts.
The Lemon Law applies to most new vehicles purchased or leased in California that are still under a manufacturer’s new-vehicle warranty. Full-time active-duty members of the Armed Forces stationed or residing in California at the time of purchase or lease are protected by the Lemon Law even if their vehicles were purchased or registered outside of California. The Lemon Law also applies to used vehicles when they are still under a manufacturer’s new car warranty. Any remaining time left on the warranty protects the car’s new owner.
Under the Lemon Law, the manufacturer may be required to buy back or replace your vehicle if, after a “reasonable” number of repair attempts, it cannot repair a problem that:
Lemon vehicles that are bought back by dealers and then resold must be identified as a “lemon law buyback” and have a “lemon” sticker on their door. When lemon buybacks are not properly disclosed and sold “as is,” the buyer may still have rights under the Lemon Law. For additional information, see Lemon Law Buyback Vehicles.
Even if the Lemon Law does not apply in your case, other state and federal laws may protect you. These include laws that prohibit deceptive practices and require vehicles to meet minimum safety standards. For advice concerning your legal rights, consult an attorney.
here are the provisions of the California Lemon Law:
California Lemon Law
The California Lemon Law (Civ. Code, § 1793.2 et seq.) protects you when your vehicle is defective and cannot be repaired after a “reasonable” number of attempts.
The Lemon Law applies to most new vehicles purchased or leased in California that are still under a manufacturer’s new-vehicle warranty. Full-time active-duty members of the Armed Forces stationed or residing in California at the time of purchase or lease are protected by the Lemon Law even if their vehicles were purchased or registered outside of California. The Lemon Law also applies to used vehicles when they are still under a manufacturer’s new car warranty. Any remaining time left on the warranty protects the car’s new owner.
Under the Lemon Law, the manufacturer may be required to buy back or replace your vehicle if, after a “reasonable” number of repair attempts, it cannot repair a problem that:
- Is covered by the manufacturer’s new-vehicle warranty;
- Substantially impairs the use, value, or safety of the vehicle; and
- Is not caused by unauthorized or unreasonable use of the vehicle after sale.
- The problem first occurred within 18 months of delivery or 18,000 miles (whichever comes first);
- If required by the warranty or owner’s manual, you notified the manufacturer about the problem; and
- You have taken the vehicle in for repair by the manufacturer or its agents:
- Four or more times for the same problem and it still is not fixed, or
- Two or more times for the same problem, if that problem is big enough to cause death or serious injury, and it still is not fixed, or
- The vehicle has been out of service for repair for more than 30 days (the 30 days do not need to be in a row).
Lemon vehicles that are bought back by dealers and then resold must be identified as a “lemon law buyback” and have a “lemon” sticker on their door. When lemon buybacks are not properly disclosed and sold “as is,” the buyer may still have rights under the Lemon Law. For additional information, see Lemon Law Buyback Vehicles.
Even if the Lemon Law does not apply in your case, other state and federal laws may protect you. These include laws that prohibit deceptive practices and require vehicles to meet minimum safety standards. For advice concerning your legal rights, consult an attorney.
#61
I got the car back and promptly traded it in for another model without the 48V for the peace of mind. When you see any super low mileage MY 2022 CPO with the 48V at a dealer, I can almost guarantee you the car had some battery issue before.
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#62
Well done. What vehicle did you end up with?
#64
48v warning today
I left work today to drive home in my C200 W206 Estate bought new 6 weeks ago. Now with 2000 miles on the clock. Filled up with petrol at a service station and was greeted by the 48v warning and car would not start. Embarrassing as the filling station was very busy and the car was broken at the pump. Gutted to say the least. Left I for about 15 mins and it started OK, but seems to have lost mild 48v hybrid power. Strangely my charging pad for phone stopped working about 2 weeks ago which I consider a combat indicator for the ensuing problem!!
#65
I left work today to drive home in my C200 W206 Estate bought new 6 weeks ago. Now with 2000 miles on the clock. Filled up with petrol at a service station and was greeted by the 48v warning and car would not start. Embarrassing as the filling station was very busy and the car was broken at the pump. Gutted to say the least. Left I for about 15 mins and it started OK, but seems to have lost mild 48v hybrid power. Strangely my charging pad for phone stopped working about 2 weeks ago which I consider a combat indicator for the ensuing problem!!
#66
I left work today to drive home in my C200 W206 Estate bought new 6 weeks ago. Now with 2000 miles on the clock. Filled up with petrol at a service station and was greeted by the 48v warning and car would not start. Embarrassing as the filling station was very busy and the car was broken at the pump. Gutted to say the least. Left I for about 15 mins and it started OK, but seems to have lost mild 48v hybrid power. Strangely my charging pad for phone stopped working about 2 weeks ago which I consider a combat indicator for the ensuing problem!!
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