Sourced Two 2012 CLS63 AMG's Thoughts...
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a car that gets very poor gas mileage.
Congrats vic!
Great choice, but I'm slightly biased.
Although, the 793RS might look interesting (and are right out of the gate new, so you could very well be the first MBZ with them), my vote goes to the P43's in Satin Black.
Great choice, but I'm slightly biased.
Although, the 793RS might look interesting (and are right out of the gate new, so you could very well be the first MBZ with them), my vote goes to the P43's in Satin Black.
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Owning both cars- I actually feel, on throttle, that my CLS is louder by about 10%. Serious.
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Very nice.
Seeing as to how you now have the E and CLS, being basically two rebodied versions of each other, more or less (performance and drivetrain aside, of course), how do you like each of them VS the other? Any notable differences in the construction or quality of the cars or interiors, and comfort, etc.? How about the interior ambiance (with the CLS's smaller greenhouse VS the E's airier one). And finally, you're E is so sharp, I'm curious as to how you feel both cars compare with one another on a visual level, as someone who can see and feel the cars side by side on a regular basis.
Reason I ask is because I keep considering the CLS if or when I'd move on from the E, but I have a few reservations about the styling still, and the incredibly limited headroom in the front, for a 6'4 person like me, unfortunately almost makes it a deal breaker.
Seeing as to how you now have the E and CLS, being basically two rebodied versions of each other, more or less (performance and drivetrain aside, of course), how do you like each of them VS the other? Any notable differences in the construction or quality of the cars or interiors, and comfort, etc.? How about the interior ambiance (with the CLS's smaller greenhouse VS the E's airier one). And finally, you're E is so sharp, I'm curious as to how you feel both cars compare with one another on a visual level, as someone who can see and feel the cars side by side on a regular basis.
Reason I ask is because I keep considering the CLS if or when I'd move on from the E, but I have a few reservations about the styling still, and the incredibly limited headroom in the front, for a 6'4 person like me, unfortunately almost makes it a deal breaker.
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a car that gets very poor gas mileage.
K-A,
I highly recommend you sit inside one.
There's only so much you can gather from reading about it here.
I don't believe you'll have issues once inside, however, it does have a lower roofline so getting in and out will be more of a concern.
The interior appointments exude class through and through.
The design and materials used rival an Aston Martin Vantage and (dare I say) look better than even a Bentley Continental.
You'll fall in love once inside:
One other thing I almost forgot to mention.....
If you happen to test drive one, take it inside somewhere dark (i.e Mall parking garage, etc.)
The interior ambient lighting just might seal the deal.
I highly recommend you sit inside one.
There's only so much you can gather from reading about it here.
I don't believe you'll have issues once inside, however, it does have a lower roofline so getting in and out will be more of a concern.
The interior appointments exude class through and through.
The design and materials used rival an Aston Martin Vantage and (dare I say) look better than even a Bentley Continental.
You'll fall in love once inside:
One other thing I almost forgot to mention.....
If you happen to test drive one, take it inside somewhere dark (i.e Mall parking garage, etc.)
The interior ambient lighting just might seal the deal.
Last edited by Centurion; Oct 25, 2011 at 12:39 AM.
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Yeah I have actually sat in several. Unfortunately, I guess due to a tall torso especially, my head was pressed up against the roof, even at the seats lowest setting. Pretty remarkable that M-B can't design a car with a sloping roofline, with 4-Doors, and that weighs over 4,000 lbs that can provide more than a meager (comparable to Ferrari 360 Modena) 36.9" headroom. Plenty of cars with lower or as low of rooflines have much more headroom (new 6-Series *Coupe* is one). But, whaddaya gonna do.
It's an extremely nice cabin indeed. Clearly related to and based upon the E-Class, but with more attention to detail in the refinement and "soft touch" aspects (kind of like taking an interior I already love to the next level in terms of luxury appointments). However, is the ambient lighting much different from the W212's? I thought it was basically the exact same thing?
It's an extremely nice cabin indeed. Clearly related to and based upon the E-Class, but with more attention to detail in the refinement and "soft touch" aspects (kind of like taking an interior I already love to the next level in terms of luxury appointments). However, is the ambient lighting much different from the W212's? I thought it was basically the exact same thing?
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Very nice.
Seeing as to how you now have the E and CLS, being basically two rebodied versions of each other, more or less (performance and drivetrain aside, of course), how do you like each of them VS the other? Any notable differences in the construction or quality of the cars or interiors, and comfort, etc.? How about the interior ambiance (with the CLS's smaller greenhouse VS the E's airier one). And finally, you're E is so sharp, I'm curious as to how you feel both cars compare with one another on a visual level, as someone who can see and feel the cars side by side on a regular basis.
Reason I ask is because I keep considering the CLS if or when I'd move on from the E, but I have a few reservations about the styling still, and the incredibly limited headroom in the front, for a 6'4 person like me, unfortunately almost makes it a deal breaker.
Seeing as to how you now have the E and CLS, being basically two rebodied versions of each other, more or less (performance and drivetrain aside, of course), how do you like each of them VS the other? Any notable differences in the construction or quality of the cars or interiors, and comfort, etc.? How about the interior ambiance (with the CLS's smaller greenhouse VS the E's airier one). And finally, you're E is so sharp, I'm curious as to how you feel both cars compare with one another on a visual level, as someone who can see and feel the cars side by side on a regular basis.
Reason I ask is because I keep considering the CLS if or when I'd move on from the E, but I have a few reservations about the styling still, and the incredibly limited headroom in the front, for a 6'4 person like me, unfortunately almost makes it a deal breaker.
My 2010 just feels cheaper inside with the concrete feeling dash and very straight forward approach. Its hard to put into words but the E seems basic and the CLS seems to cater to me- the driver. I like the feel of the CLS better- the cockpit tends to surround me more and the E seems maybe too big. But Im not 6'4" so that could be the difference too. I liken it to how I feel in my 997TT versus the GTR but not so extreme; in the 997TT I feel more part of the car and in the GTR I feel like Im in a shell.As for styling, the CLS takes the cake in my opinion. From a stock to stock comparison the CLS's lines are amazing to me with the slanted roof line and LED headlights. The CLS in stock format turns heads but for the E it took wheels and lowering to make it look better. I can remember when I posted pics of my E after the mods and several members made statements to this effect: "I dont like the W212 but I love your E". Styling is so subjective so that will be something for you to really invest into. As for the 6'4" part thats either going to work or its not. If it does meet your height requirements I like the CLS over the E. Its the better made car IMHO especially considering the interior.
On the E, I only have the ability to pick the level of brightness whereas with the CLS I can choose the color of the ambient lighting: Polar Blue, Neutral, or Amber.
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Thanks for the writeup.
Yeah I can see many of your points. The CLS definitely ups the ante on the sense-of-occasion level, while the E teeters the line toward practicality and understatement as well.
I just wish there was enough frontal headroom in the CLS to support my height, so I can really take one seriously when looking through it, in terms of "Will I give my money to you". Grr.
Yeah I can see many of your points. The CLS definitely ups the ante on the sense-of-occasion level, while the E teeters the line toward practicality and understatement as well.
I just wish there was enough frontal headroom in the CLS to support my height, so I can really take one seriously when looking through it, in terms of "Will I give my money to you". Grr.
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I've seen 4 locally in white, none in black. The car is awesome in ANY color, but I think in 2 years you are going to find the black has the better resale potential.
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Here is my short on it. Construction is relatively the same to me- the fit and finish of the paint is equal although I have black on the CLS and it does seem to be quite shiny but that could be due to the "newness" of the car. As for the interior; there is quite a difference. The CLS interior amenities are nicer with the alcantara headliner and better feeling and looking dash. Of course the Nav is better but its a 2012 vs a 2010. The leather is better in the CLS too but I think my 2010 was the cost cutting year no doubt and no wonder I got the car for so cheap My 2010 just feels cheaper inside with the concrete feeling dash and very straight forward approach. Its hard to put into words but the E seems basic and the CLS seems to cater to me- the driver. I like the feel of the CLS better- the cockpit tends to surround me more and the E seems maybe too big. But Im not 6'4" so that could be the difference too. I liken it to how I feel in my 997TT versus the GTR but not so extreme; in the 997TT I feel more part of the car and in the GTR I feel like Im in a shell.
As for styling, the CLS takes the cake in my opinion. From a stock to stock comparison the CLS's lines are amazing to me with the slanted roof line and LED headlights. The CLS in stock format turns heads but for the E it took wheels and lowering to make it look better. I can remember when I posted pics of my E after the mods and several members made statements to this effect: "I dont like the W212 but I love your E". Styling is so subjective so that will be something for you to really invest into. As for the 6'4" part thats either going to work or its not. If it does meet your height requirements I like the CLS over the E. Its the better made car IMHO especially considering the interior.
On the E, I only have the ability to pick the level of brightness whereas with the CLS I can choose the color of the ambient lighting: Polar Blue, Neutral, or Amber.
My 2010 just feels cheaper inside with the concrete feeling dash and very straight forward approach. Its hard to put into words but the E seems basic and the CLS seems to cater to me- the driver. I like the feel of the CLS better- the cockpit tends to surround me more and the E seems maybe too big. But Im not 6'4" so that could be the difference too. I liken it to how I feel in my 997TT versus the GTR but not so extreme; in the 997TT I feel more part of the car and in the GTR I feel like Im in a shell.As for styling, the CLS takes the cake in my opinion. From a stock to stock comparison the CLS's lines are amazing to me with the slanted roof line and LED headlights. The CLS in stock format turns heads but for the E it took wheels and lowering to make it look better. I can remember when I posted pics of my E after the mods and several members made statements to this effect: "I dont like the W212 but I love your E". Styling is so subjective so that will be something for you to really invest into. As for the 6'4" part thats either going to work or its not. If it does meet your height requirements I like the CLS over the E. Its the better made car IMHO especially considering the interior.
On the E, I only have the ability to pick the level of brightness whereas with the CLS I can choose the color of the ambient lighting: Polar Blue, Neutral, or Amber.
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Here is my short on it. Construction is relatively the same to me- the fit and finish of the paint is equal although I have black on the CLS and it does seem to be quite shiny but that could be due to the "newness" of the car. As for the interior; there is quite a difference. The CLS interior amenities are nicer with the alcantara headliner and better feeling and looking dash. Of course the Nav is better but its a 2012 vs a 2010. The leather is better in the CLS too but I think my 2010 was the cost cutting year no doubt and no wonder I got the car for so cheap My 2010 just feels cheaper inside with the concrete feeling dash and very straight forward approach. Its hard to put into words but the E seems basic and the CLS seems to cater to me- the driver. I like the feel of the CLS better- the cockpit tends to surround me more and the E seems maybe too big. But Im not 6'4" so that could be the difference too. I liken it to how I feel in my 997TT versus the GTR but not so extreme; in the 997TT I feel more part of the car and in the GTR I feel like Im in a shell.
As for styling, the CLS takes the cake in my opinion. From a stock to stock comparison the CLS's lines are amazing to me with the slanted roof line and LED headlights. The CLS in stock format turns heads but for the E it took wheels and lowering to make it look better. I can remember when I posted pics of my E after the mods and several members made statements to this effect: "I dont like the W212 but I love your E". Styling is so subjective so that will be something for you to really invest into. As for the 6'4" part thats either going to work or its not. If it does meet your height requirements I like the CLS over the E. Its the better made car IMHO especially considering the interior.
On the E, I only have the ability to pick the level of brightness whereas with the CLS I can choose the color of the ambient lighting: Polar Blue, Neutral, or Amber.
My 2010 just feels cheaper inside with the concrete feeling dash and very straight forward approach. Its hard to put into words but the E seems basic and the CLS seems to cater to me- the driver. I like the feel of the CLS better- the cockpit tends to surround me more and the E seems maybe too big. But Im not 6'4" so that could be the difference too. I liken it to how I feel in my 997TT versus the GTR but not so extreme; in the 997TT I feel more part of the car and in the GTR I feel like Im in a shell.As for styling, the CLS takes the cake in my opinion. From a stock to stock comparison the CLS's lines are amazing to me with the slanted roof line and LED headlights. The CLS in stock format turns heads but for the E it took wheels and lowering to make it look better. I can remember when I posted pics of my E after the mods and several members made statements to this effect: "I dont like the W212 but I love your E". Styling is so subjective so that will be something for you to really invest into. As for the 6'4" part thats either going to work or its not. If it does meet your height requirements I like the CLS over the E. Its the better made car IMHO especially considering the interior.
On the E, I only have the ability to pick the level of brightness whereas with the CLS I can choose the color of the ambient lighting: Polar Blue, Neutral, or Amber.
Wonderful information Mr. Vic.
You need to start the "VIC REPORT"
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Vic - I've been waiting. . .about to pop my cherry on this one. . .you sir. . .EBOLA VIRUS SICK!!!!!!!!!!
Can not wait to see it done up!!!!!!!!! CONGRADS!!!!!!!!!
Vic - I've been waiting. . .about to pop my cherry on this one. . .you sir. . .EBOLA VIRUS SICK!!!!!!!!!!
Can not wait to see it done up!!!!!!!!! CONGRADS!!!!!!!!!
