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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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Talking Michelin PilotSuperSport | V8TT - My Suggestion

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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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whoh, what were you doing losing grip at 70??
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Have the PSS's on my '12 E550 cab with a Renntech ECU. Still have to be a bit careful about traction loss but all things considered they perform very well. I consider them money well spent. Actually adds a lot of confidence to driving this car which can get to be a handful. As to the tune, holy cra*, all the extra torque/HP adds a new dimention to the car. This has become one really fun car to drive. Highly recommend both if for nothing than the added entertainment value. Good luck and enjoy!
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
i havent seemed to lose grip with stock pirelli pzeros, they seem ok, dunno
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Saeedg48
ok guys i've put 8600 miles on the stock continentals. my review; they're horrible. with the performance package it's hard to get the car going off the line. i lost complete grip of the rear end going 70mph. scary sh*t, but i was able to counter-steer and keep it going straight (my little track experience coming in handy) i could only image with a tune; there's no way they would ever hookup to the ground. a lot of people say "modulate the throttle" which i agree with, but then what's the point.

so now that i'm ready for some more power (not sure where to start perhaps a tune) i though i should upgrade my tires.

after owning a few sets of the pilot super sports i decided to go with them again on the V8TT CLS. my opinion; they're the best all around tires on the market.
i did a 295 setup on the rear not a 285. they don't rub

the pilot super sports grip and grip and grip forever and ever. from a stop i can floor it and it handles the power perfectly.
i guaranty if i raced my exact car with the old tires i'd destroy it. around a bend and in a straight line.

120 miles later i haven't seen the traction light come on once!
Do the 295s look weird on the stock 19s. I mean does the sidewall protrude noticeably far from the lip of your wheels?
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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Do the 295s look weird on the stock 19s. I mean does the sidewall protrude noticeably far from the lip of your wheels?
sidewalls don't look rounded like the 285 do. actually looks better this way imo. they're more square

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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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i've put 8600 miles on the stock continentals. my review; they're horrible.
Really? I just did whole track day on them and can't really complain much. Suspension was bigger problem, along with car been fat by about 1500 pounds
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 03:13 AM
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I have to say that I'm biased towards Contis - they've always felt more planted than comparable Michelins. One quick point - the changing seasons might help your planted feeling - warmer tires and whatnot.
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I have always felt that Michelins are the better tire. But with that being said most drivers- almost all in fact wont push their tires to the limits in these type of cars.

As mentioned above the suspension, weight, chassis, steering, etc- all play a role in the handling experience.

If I had a choice Id go with the SS's but Id probably not change the contis if I had them first until they wore out. Now because Im lowered and need a less square sidewall to avoid rubbing I run Hankooks V12's and they are a great bang for the buck tire. I take the same exact turns that I ran other cars with my Michelins and they perform very very well all things/factors considered.
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Old Apr 1, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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I def will go w/ SSs when they have 305s avail.
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I def will go w/ SSs when they have 305s avail.
will we be able to fit 305s on the stock 19s? that would be badass.
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Originally Posted by Saeedg48
will we be able to fit 305s on the stock 19s? that would be badass.
305 tires on a 10 inch wheels is overkill but you can fit it because the there is a lot of room in the wheel well. But you will have sidewall overlap. 305 tires are for 11 inch or wider wheels IMHO.
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Originally Posted by Vic55
305 tires on a 10 inch wheels is overkill but you can fit it because the there is a lot of room in the wheel well. But you will have sidewall overlap. 305 tires are for 11 inch or wider wheels IMHO.
Not to disagree or contradict, but most tire manufacturer websites have PDFs with approved wheel widths for every combination of their respective tires. They usually present it as a range, with a minimum, ideal, and maximum.
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Originally Posted by justthebest
Not to disagree or contradict, but most tire manufacturer websites have PDFs with approved wheel widths for every combination of their respective tires. They usually present it as a range, with a minimum, ideal, and maximum.
Yes you are correct... I was just speaking based on the many many fitments I have done for myself and what HRE and other wheel manufacturers have done too. Along with what Porsche does with OEM Michelins on their 19x11 wheels.

I found the PSS on TireRack in the 305x30x19 format and here is what Michelin says:



So while you might be ok with a 10.5; they use 11 inch wheels to test this size. I have had tons of 11 inch wide wheels- the optimal tire size is 305 IMHO.
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That was justthebest's point: that 305 tire (30-19 or 25-20, does not matter), as per all manufacturers, should not be placed on a 10" wide wheel, as was previously suggested.
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