CLS63TT spark plug broke
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other plugs are fine and they were dark a bit, i guess i thought they were kind of melted, but i was wrong,
this plug looks like it was one of the fualty ones.
will keep you guys updated on what the dealer's final dicision and its going towards fixing it under warranty.
tomorrow they will reply to me.
this plug looks like it was one of the fualty ones.
will keep you guys updated on what the dealer's final dicision and its going towards fixing it under warranty.
tomorrow they will reply to me.
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even when the car was stock i checked it and i thougt 12.5 is lean for FI cars.
just to all let you know, i have been driving it like crazy @ high speeds and when i say that i mean it
to be able to give a hard time for Aventador, other modded cars also is joyful.
but to have bad Spark plug is painful
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Sorry to hear about that Ali,
Hope everything gets taken care of soon and there isn't any major repairs.
Btw would the tune have to do anything with your spark plug issue?
Which tune are you running?
Hope everything gets taken care of soon and there isn't any major repairs.
Btw would the tune have to do anything with your spark plug issue?
Which tune are you running?
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Guys - Not sure if this would help to deduct anything here but my plugs went just days after I go my tune back. There was no noted correlation between the two and the car was fixed under warrenty.
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Guys - Not sure if this would help to deduct anything here but my plugs went just days after I go my tune back. There was no noted correlation between the two and the car was fixed under warrenty.
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How many miles do you have on your car? I got the first batch of 63s back in end of Aug and had it tuned a month after I got it. I've only put 4k miles on it since Sept though. I've not had any issues yet. I've had it to the dragstip several times since and I've been running it pretty hard.
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Guys - Not sure if this would help to deduct anything here but my plugs went just days after I go my tune back. There was no noted correlation between the two and the car was fixed under warrenty.
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...ails-plugs.jpg
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I understand Ali backing up his tuner by not mentioning who he is and blaming it on the plugs.
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Backing up his tuner would be saying "hey guys, nothing to hide, I have XYZ tune, but from everything we can tell it's definitely not the tune. This was simply a hardware failure due to a bad plug, and/or perhaps a bad tank of gas, etc., and running the car very, very hard. That's it."
Ironically, choosing to intentionally hide who the tuner is, actually adds suspicion and credibility to the idea that the catastrophic engine failure was, to some degree, tune related.
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im not backing up anyone, but untill now investgation is runing and today i will get a reply either it was a fualty plug or from the tune.
all other plugs were 100% fine and they were not melting but diffrent color.
the dealer is trying hard to be accurate if it is one of the fualty plugs or not by checking date of manufactured plug and serial number, etc.
i hope it is a fualty and will be fixed under warranty.
other than that, i don't think parts will cost more than $3000. but labor will be
all other plugs were 100% fine and they were not melting but diffrent color.
the dealer is trying hard to be accurate if it is one of the fualty plugs or not by checking date of manufactured plug and serial number, etc.
i hope it is a fualty and will be fixed under warranty.
other than that, i don't think parts will cost more than $3000. but labor will be
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im not backing up anyone, but untill now investgation is runing and today i will get a reply either it was a fualty plug or from the tune.
all other plugs were 100% fine and they were not melting but diffrent color.
the dealer is trying hard to be accurate if it is one of the fualty plugs or not by checking date of manufactured plug and serial number, etc.
i hope it is a fualty and will be fixed under warranty.
other than that, i don't think parts will cost more than $3000. but labor will be
all other plugs were 100% fine and they were not melting but diffrent color.
the dealer is trying hard to be accurate if it is one of the fualty plugs or not by checking date of manufactured plug and serial number, etc.
i hope it is a fualty and will be fixed under warranty.
other than that, i don't think parts will cost more than $3000. but labor will be
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they were nto melting, bad eye , lol
i think the damage package are:
1. engine head & valves
2. engine head, piston ring, valve
3. engine head, piston ring, valve, and bore got scrached.
4. or maybe only valves.
i hope it is number 4.
but can't know untill they open up the engine or stick a micro camera from spark plug place to see.
i think the damage package are:
1. engine head & valves
2. engine head, piston ring, valve
3. engine head, piston ring, valve, and bore got scrached.
4. or maybe only valves.
i hope it is number 4.
but can't know untill they open up the engine or stick a micro camera from spark plug place to see.
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Respectfully disagree.
Backing up his tuner would be saying "hey guys, nothing to hide, I have XYZ tune, but from everything we can tell it's definitely not the tune. This was simply a hardware failure due to a bad plug, and/or perhaps a bad tank of gas, etc., and running the car very, very hard. That's it."
Ironically, choosing to intentionally hide who the tuner is, actually adds suspicion and credibility to the idea that the catastrophic engine failure was, to some degree, tune related.
Backing up his tuner would be saying "hey guys, nothing to hide, I have XYZ tune, but from everything we can tell it's definitely not the tune. This was simply a hardware failure due to a bad plug, and/or perhaps a bad tank of gas, etc., and running the car very, very hard. That's it."
Ironically, choosing to intentionally hide who the tuner is, actually adds suspicion and credibility to the idea that the catastrophic engine failure was, to some degree, tune related.
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they were nto melting, bad eye , lol
i think the damage package are:
1. engine head & valves
2. engine head, piston ring, valve
3. engine head, piston ring, valve, and bore got scrached.
4. or maybe only valves.
i hope it is number 4.
but can't know untill they open up the engine or stick a micro camera from spark plug place to see.
i think the damage package are:
1. engine head & valves
2. engine head, piston ring, valve
3. engine head, piston ring, valve, and bore got scrached.
4. or maybe only valves.
i hope it is number 4.
but can't know untill they open up the engine or stick a micro camera from spark plug place to see.
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LOL
the pictures are for the failure plug only,
and i saw another plug removed and its fine ( grey from using it ) as tech says other plugs are 100% fine, thats why they are going towards it is a fualty plug.
these engines came on CL/S for 2011 model, which is 1 year before CLS, and tech thinks they installed old plugs from wharehouse that was brought before CLS was preduced which makes it one of the fualty batch.
i think everyone knows who i tune my cars with
i am not hiding anything, and i don't think any tuned CLS drived above 300km for long long time like i did.
so all tuned CLS63TT owners, please try driving your cars for 10 times above 300km and each time for atleast 2 minutes staying above 300km
and let me know how the engine will handle it most of the tuned ones only for drag or short sprint
the only owner i know reached 300km is for sure dbasons55
i already found after market plug.
it is painful to know our spark plugs are the same for E350 CGI engines.
3.5 NA VS 5.5 FI , yet same spark plugs.
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the pictures are for the failure plug only,
and i saw another plug removed and its fine ( grey from using it ) as tech says other plugs are 100% fine, thats why they are going towards it is a fualty plug.
these engines came on CL/S for 2011 model, which is 1 year before CLS, and tech thinks they installed old plugs from wharehouse that was brought before CLS was preduced which makes it one of the fualty batch.
i think everyone knows who i tune my cars with
i am not hiding anything, and i don't think any tuned CLS drived above 300km for long long time like i did.
so all tuned CLS63TT owners, please try driving your cars for 10 times above 300km and each time for atleast 2 minutes staying above 300km and let me know how the engine will handle it
most of the tuned ones only for drag or short sprint
the only owner i know reached 300km is for sure dbasons55
i already found after market plug.
it is painful to know our spark plugs are the same for E350 CGI engines.
3.5 NA VS 5.5 FI , yet same spark plugs.
the pictures are for the failure plug only,
and i saw another plug removed and its fine ( grey from using it ) as tech says other plugs are 100% fine, thats why they are going towards it is a fualty plug.
these engines came on CL/S for 2011 model, which is 1 year before CLS, and tech thinks they installed old plugs from wharehouse that was brought before CLS was preduced which makes it one of the fualty batch.
i think everyone knows who i tune my cars with
i am not hiding anything, and i don't think any tuned CLS drived above 300km for long long time like i did.
so all tuned CLS63TT owners, please try driving your cars for 10 times above 300km and each time for atleast 2 minutes staying above 300km
and let me know how the engine will handle it most of the tuned ones only for drag or short sprint
the only owner i know reached 300km is for sure dbasons55
i already found after market plug.
it is painful to know our spark plugs are the same for E350 CGI engines.
3.5 NA VS 5.5 FI , yet same spark plugs.
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Oh and what kind of aftermarket plug did you find, I mean from a performance standpoint I too would like to have a better plug than the one for the 350
Last edited by areuv; Apr 30, 2012 at 11:24 AM. Reason: spelling
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LOL
the pictures are for the failure plug only,
and i saw another plug removed and its fine ( grey from using it ) as tech says other plugs are 100% fine, thats why they are going towards it is a fualty plug.
these engines came on CL/S for 2011 model, which is 1 year before CLS, and tech thinks they installed old plugs from wharehouse that was brought before CLS was preduced which makes it one of the fualty batch.
i think everyone knows who i tune my cars with
i am not hiding anything, and i don't think any tuned CLS drived above 300km for long long time like i did.
so all tuned CLS63TT owners, please try driving your cars for 10 times above 300km and each time for atleast 2 minutes staying above 300km and let me know how the engine will handle it
most of the tuned ones only for drag or short sprint
the only owner i know reached 300km is for sure dbasons55
i already found after market plug.
it is painful to know our spark plugs are the same for E350 CGI engines.
3.5 NA VS 5.5 FI , yet same spark plugs.
the pictures are for the failure plug only,
and i saw another plug removed and its fine ( grey from using it ) as tech says other plugs are 100% fine, thats why they are going towards it is a fualty plug.
these engines came on CL/S for 2011 model, which is 1 year before CLS, and tech thinks they installed old plugs from wharehouse that was brought before CLS was preduced which makes it one of the fualty batch.
i think everyone knows who i tune my cars with
i am not hiding anything, and i don't think any tuned CLS drived above 300km for long long time like i did.
so all tuned CLS63TT owners, please try driving your cars for 10 times above 300km and each time for atleast 2 minutes staying above 300km
and let me know how the engine will handle it most of the tuned ones only for drag or short sprint
the only owner i know reached 300km is for sure dbasons55
i already found after market plug.
it is painful to know our spark plugs are the same for E350 CGI engines.
3.5 NA VS 5.5 FI , yet same spark plugs.
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FWIW, spark plugs are chosen/designed to give optimal cylinder head temperatures. Using the same plug from one N/A engine vs. an F/I engine like the M157 isn't a problem, or would be in any way an "inferior" plug to use, as long as it is an appropriate heat range for the application.
Tuning the engine for significantly higher output, and the corresponding heat created, would tend to suggest moving to a one (maybe two?) step colder plug.
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Everyone knows? You've been asked at least 5 times in this very thread, by people who obviously do not know, and you haven't answered.
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Also - The CEL went on at the same time that my car started to shake and misfire real bad so in this case the CEL did not get me there faster...it just confirmed what was obvious.
