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Old May 26, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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is Rentech the best tune??

there are some tunes out there that claim close to the same hp and alot less expensive some input plz
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Old May 26, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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There is no such thing as a "best tune".
Is Renntech a good tuner? Yes.
Are there other tunes that have proven results? Yes.
This is a difficult question to answer, my advice would be to do some research. People with different tunes will give you different answers.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by _AMG_
There is no such thing as a "best tune".
Is Renntech a good tuner? Yes.
Are there other tunes that have proven results? Yes.
This is a difficult question to answer, my advice would be to do some research. People with different tunes will give you different answers.
I did a lot of research on this that started with a thread that got a little out of hand. _AMG_ you were there...
Here is the conclusion I came to:
You find a company that you trust and that will stand behind their tune. I narrowed it down to 3 that I considered solid.

_AMG_ is an OE guy and I went Renntech and I'm sure he's as happy as I am...
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Old May 27, 2012 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by freefall
I did a lot of research on this that started with a thread that got a little out of hand. _AMG_ you were there...
Here is the conclusion I came to:
You find a company that you trust and that will stand behind their tune. I narrowed it down to 3 that I considered solid.

_AMG_ is an OE guy and I went Renntech and I'm sure he's as happy as I am...
Lol, You said it best brotha!

As long as your happy with which ever tuner you go with then that's all that matters.
Renntech has done an amazing job with these M157 monsters!
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Old May 27, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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NO. HELL NO!
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Old May 28, 2012 | 01:25 AM
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NO. HELL NO!

LOL

care to share ?
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Old May 28, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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From Eli 55 plug/tune issue be somewhat wiser to consider a tune:

1. Does not break the seal on the ECU
2. MB Star Diagnostic is not locked out of ECU
3. Does not push the Engine to its limits (engine should last 150K mi)
4. ECU can return to stock (need company to be around for at least 5 yrs)
4. Warranty (read the fine print)

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Old May 29, 2012 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by m_berman
From Eli 55 plug/tune issue be somewhat wiser to consider a tune:

1. Does not break the seal on the ECU
2. MB Star Diagnostic is not locked out of ECU
3. Does not push the Engine to its limits (engine should last 150K mi)
4. ECU can return to stock (need company to be around for at least 5 yrs)
4. Warranty (read the fine print)
Ali's time with WOT is something that would be very hard to match so I'd say he pushed it to the extremes.

As far as the other points as it relates to the ECU I can add this:
I brought my car into the dealer, after the Renntech tune, and they put her through star diagnostics. It was in fact a bad spark plug and they fixed it under warranty. I had no issues whatsoever.

Also - We all know our beloved CLS is one fat *ss biatch to get moving but with a tune you'll run side by side with most of the best...until you have to turn anyway...

I'll be doing SBS at Willow in a couple of weeks. Will post videos of what AMG + Renntech can do...
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Old May 29, 2012 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by m_berman
From Eli 55 plug/tune issue be somewhat wiser to consider a tune:

1. Does not break the seal on the ECU
2. MB Star Diagnostic is not locked out of ECU
3. Does not push the Engine to its limits (engine should last 150K mi)
4. ECU can return to stock (need company to be around for at least 5 yrs)
4. Warranty (read the fine print)
STAR works for checking fualts and all car status, i was to lazy to return it to stock and maybe they saw more boost or diffirent timing, but they also said it can not be updated if MB release an update for our engine software.
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Old May 29, 2012 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by freefall
Ali's time with WOT is something that would be very hard to match so I'd say he pushed it to the extremes.

As far as the other points as it relates to the ECU I can add this:
I brought my car into the dealer, after the Renntech tune, and they put her through star diagnostics. It was in fact a bad spark plug and they fixed it under warranty. I had no issues whatsoever.

Also - We all know our beloved CLS is one fat *ss biatch to get moving but with a tune you'll run side by side with most of the best...until you have to turn anyway...

I'll be doing SBS at Willow in a couple of weeks. Will post videos of what AMG + Renntech can do...

thats so true, and i will keep driving it hard, i bought it to enjoy it and i tuned it to smoke it

i am really thinking of adding a large H/E now for long WOTs
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Old May 29, 2012 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ali_E55
STAR works for checking fualts and all car status, i was to lazy to return it to stock and maybe they saw more boost or diffirent timing, but they also said it can not be updated if MB release an update for our engine software.
I thought they could update it but if they did it would wipe out the tune.

Thats more of a question than a statement
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Old May 29, 2012 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by freefall
I thought they could update it but if they did it would wipe out the tune.

Thats more of a question than a statement

thats what the senior SA said.

i stopped arguing with them because they always colse the discussion " we are the dealer and we know better"
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Old May 29, 2012 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by freefall
I thought they could update it but if they did it would wipe out the tune.

Thats more of a question than a statement
You may want to read my thread on this topic...it's not only true for Kleemann BTW...

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...isible-mb.html
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Old May 29, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Happy
You may want to read my thread on this topic...it's not only true for Kleemann BTW...

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...isible-mb.html
Good stuff. Thank you.

Personally though I have no concerns. I either mod my favorite car and take my chances or I spend at least 50K more on a car that comes with the same performance. So the way I see it, until I blow my engine, I'm ahead...

And who am I kidding...I would tune the more expensive car too...
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Will there ever be a tune for the new C218 that you can flash yourself?
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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I picked Renntech as it was the only tune the service manager was comfortable with allowing on the car without having warranty problems with them.
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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I picked Renntech as it was the only tune the service manager was comfortable with allowing on the car without having warranty problems with them.
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by freefall
Good stuff. Thank you.

Personally though I have no concerns. I either mod my favorite car and take my chances or I spend at least 50K more on a car that comes with the same performance. So the way I see it, until I blow my engine, I'm ahead...

And who am I kidding...I would tune the more expensive car too...
I agree completely. And what car would you get for 150-160k with comparable qualities and performance? Maybe a Panny Turbo S? But I just can't get past the looks...
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ajag
I agree completely. And what car would you get for 150-160k with comparable qualities and performance? Maybe a Panny Turbo S? But I just can't get past the looks...
For years I was getting stuff from Porsche on that car...I could't wait. Then when I saw it I was like damn........what the hell happened from the concept drawing early on!

Sooooo glad AMG did it right on the 218!

We two peas in a pod or what Ajag...
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