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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 04:54 PM
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Kleemann Turbos ARRIVED!!!

Let's see the outcome. I have installed turbos today. I will send 2 ECUs to Kleemann. One for 98-100 octane fuel and another one for 110 octane fuel.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 02:10 AM
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NICE!! Cant wait to hear the results...Quick question, where did you go to buy a spare ECU. I would like to have 2 ECUs to swap between as well.

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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 03:12 AM
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I bought it on eBay for 350$. You can order brand new ECU from your local MB dealership for around 1200$.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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I am assuming engine removal is a MUST to have them installed?
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 03:14 PM
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Yes, engine must be removed in order to install the new turbos. Take about 5 hours if done by a professional.
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Old Apr 8, 2015 | 03:25 AM
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Bro you find a kinds of stuff on ebay..lol..I looked on Ebay when you mentioned it in your brakes thread and again on the ECU you said you got on there. I can't fin a ECU on there for the life of me..haha..Might have to resort to the dealer. Wonder what shop cost would be..
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 11:08 PM
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Sweet, let us know how those turbos work. I just did a set of turbos on my E63 but I changed the whole turbo, not just the compressor wheel. I've been wondering about the Kleemann turbos though.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 01:38 AM
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Bro you find a kinds of stuff on ebay..lol..I looked on Ebay when you mentioned it in your brakes thread and again on the ECU you said you got on there. I can't fin a ECU on there for the life of me..haha..Might have to resort to the dealer. Wonder what shop cost would be..
Sometimes it takes time to find the right part for a good deal. It is easy to find a specific part if you know the part number. For instance, the part number for the ECU is 2789001000 if you google it together with eBay you will find the available options if there are any.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 01:40 AM
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Sweet, let us know how those turbos work. I just did a set of turbos on my E63 but I changed the whole turbo, not just the compressor wheel. I've been wondering about the Kleemann turbos though.
I will post the Dyno results next week. Hoping for the best.
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Here are some pictures of the installation process



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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 07:41 PM
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monster... how will you put all this torque and hp down the road with an rwd only...
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I have installed Qualife LSD to solve the problem with traction. However that is not enough. I have a set of 18' Hoosier DRs with lightweight Momo rims and that is what you need to maintain control over the traction. I also working on 16' Hoosier DRs with super light weight CLK rims. In this case there is a problem with sixe of rear brake disk. I might swap the rear brake disk with W212 e350 brake disk. I will trying to figure out which size of brake disk is small enough to fit the16' rims.

I have increased an inline pressure of TCU that helps to prevent slipage between the frictions in the gearbox for cars with massive torque.
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 12:52 AM
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Here are some pics of 16 inch CLK rims. I did black coating to make it look better with black car






This is the setup I am going for!





This is what I currently use for racing!
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 05:44 PM
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Thanks for sharing. Keep the info coming.
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Old May 6, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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Old May 6, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
All show and no go or what?
We took the car to Dyno today. With 98 octane fuel it made 820HP at the crank and 660WHP with 920NM at the wheels!!!

On the top the room was not ventilated well, the hood was closed and cooling ventilator for the engine was quote old and not powerful. I believe with all that fixed the HP could go up to 850 at the crank!

There is a surprise on its way with 110 octane GEM Racing Fuel mapping. I got a second ECU for that. Kleemann is working hard to get the mapping done so I will post more results...









660WHP and 920NM at the Wheels!
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Old May 6, 2015 | 04:37 PM
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I forgot to mention that there was racing fuel in the car (which has negative effect when mapped for 98 octane fuel) so we added 30 liters of 98 octane fuel to it, because it is impossible to take the GEM fuel out of the tank! If purely used 98 octane there will be much better result!
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Nice! Once this set up gets sorted out it will be my first mod...if I don't get the RS7. Been waiting for some decent biturbo AMG number for too long!
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This looks like it is making big power for a Dynamics roller Should go deep 10's.....
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Originally Posted by will175
Bro you find a kinds of stuff on ebay..lol..I looked on Ebay when you mentioned it in your brakes thread and again on the ECU you said you got on there. I can't fin a ECU on there for the life of me..haha..Might have to resort to the dealer. Wonder what shop cost would be..
A little secret for ALL.... You can find a ton more performance & OEM related parts on Ebay UK Yes they ship to the US...

This is an awesome modification for the new V8 Biturbos... But you/we should ALL completely forget the entire Crank HP/TQ NMeters tq #'s as they can be manipulated/read so many different ways that increase the #'s beyond reality. IE every tuner uses a different DTL % etc etc no telling which Percentage is actually correct, the ONLY way to 100% know how much an engine makes @ the Crank in from an Engine Dyno..

659 rwhp is indeed stout but what about ALL the V8 Biturbo cars w/just ECU & Down Pipes on 91-93 octane on stock turbos, they're making NEARLY the same exact 650+ rwhp?? I've seen a load of Dynos showing this type of power from Weistec, Renntech, AMS, etc etc
Here's Weistec Tune ONLY 608 rwhp http://weistec.com/all/cls/cls-63/20...u-upgrade.html
And here's Weistec pkg... W/ECU/Down Pipes/Exhaust/Hi flow air filters on crummy 91 octane 645 whp this is w/Stock Turbos..
http://weistec.com/all/cls/cls-63/20...cls63-rwd.html

Or what bout Renntech's V8 Biturbo Turbo etc upgrades? It handily eclipses the 659 rwhp from Kleemann . Renntech's making crazy 710 rwhp
http://renntechmercedes.com/index.ph...pproved-detail


& Here's the grand daddy AMS W/get this JUST their upgraded snails making an insane 787 RWHP!!
This is just a stock E63 with our upgraded turbos calibrated in house by our two tuners Martin Musial and Chris Black.

Please note torque is not shown as our tach pickup was having a hard time picking up a signal on the*dyno. Based on the HP Torque should be close to 770 ft lbs.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w218/4891...os-787whp.html


Just noting ALL the other comparable options for the same platform

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Strong numbers! Careful posting any dyno numbers above 750+ rwhp, you might get a lot of push back on fabricated numbers. , Inside joke.

Strong numbers for sure.
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