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This would depend on what car you are mounting said wheels to. For the w212 E63, you'd want 255/30 for the 9" wheel (confirmed fitment by member with exact wheel spec) and 295/25 for the 11" (as seen online on a Poseidon E63 build. Their wheel was ET45). The CLS63 can fit more meat under the rear wheel wells.
After some more research it seems like 255/35/20 and 295/30/20 will be a good way to get some extra meat while fitting fine.
Trying to avoid 25 profile. This is for my CLS.
The car will raise 1 inch due to profile step up (I see several 255/30 and 305/25 or similar) but if there's room to lower then I may get a module to compensate.
2018 E300 Sport:Current 2015 Mercedes Benz C300 Sport- Gone.
The wheel application you have is good for the 20x9.0 et25, but the rear 20x11 should be pushed out about 15mm to an ET30-32 and your recommended tires for this application would be 255/30-20 front and 305/25-20 rear. With the right wheel offsets the wheels and tires will fill the gap nice and avoid the need to lower it. Also if you want to always know what is best and recommended to fit these applications, just go and research what Brabus or Carlsson, or Lorinser recommend as these companies all work closely with the tire manufactures to develop the maximum optimal applications and they all require to be TUV tested and approved, so there is no guessing when it comes to what they test and provide, it is like a Bible to follow the proper application so your vehicle is fit with the maximum performance with the wheel and tire setup.
The wheel application you have is good for the 20x9.0 et25, but the rear 20x11 should be pushed out about 15mm to an ET30-32 and your recommended tires for this application would be 255/30-20 front and 305/25-20 rear. With the right wheel offsets the wheels and tires will fill the gap nice and avoid the need to lower it. Also if you want to always know what is best and recommended to fit these applications, just go and research what Brabus or Carlsson, or Lorinser recommend as these companies all work closely with the tire manufactures to develop the maximum optimal applications and they all require to be TUV tested and approved, so there is no guessing when it comes to what they test and provide, it is like a Bible to follow the proper application so your vehicle is fit with the maximum performance with the wheel and tire setup.
I respectfully disagree with your comment/recommendation regarding "avoiding the need to lower it"; especially by means of "right offset". Offset only "moves" the wheel farther or closer to the fender/strut.
2018 E300 Sport:Current 2015 Mercedes Benz C300 Sport- Gone.
Originally Posted by Rehabguy
I respectfully disagree with your comment/recommendation regarding "avoiding the need to lower it"; especially by means of "right offset". Offset only "moves" the wheel farther or closer to the fender/strut.
To each their own, but it is in fact true that if you do move the wheel further out to the edge of the body, the gap will decrease. For many people that don't want to drop the car and want to avoid front end clearance issues, it is valuable advice.
If they still want to lower it after the fact, go for it.
To each their own, but it is in fact true that if you do move the wheel further out to the edge of the body, the gap will decrease. For many people that don't want to drop the car and want to avoid front end clearance issues, it is valuable advice.
If they still want to lower it after the fact, go for it.
"To each their own" Absolutely! You do whatever you feel is/looks best to/for your ride.
What gap will decrease from a lower offset wheel? pls specify. Cuz if you are saying that the top most part of the tire will get closer to the fender, then you would be very wrong.
Last edited by Rehabguy; Nov 18, 2021 at 05:07 PM.
2018 E300 Sport:Current 2015 Mercedes Benz C300 Sport- Gone.
Originally Posted by Rehabguy
"To each their own" Absolutely! You do whatever you feel is/looks best to/for your ride.
What gap will decrease from a lower offset wheel? pls specify. Cuz if you are saying that the top most part of the tire will get closer to the fender, then you would be very wrong.
Wow man...settle down there buddy. I have been in the industry for 30 years and not trying to pick an argument with you. The facts are what they are when you push the wheels and tires out with a lower offset by the wheels or with spacers the top of the tire is going to be closer to the top of the fender, thus giving the stance of the car a more aggressive look. This is precisely why some people choose to do spacers on their factory wheels, or why others choose aftermarket wheels with a more aggressive offset from the factory application. No doubt both options improve the look and stance. The option to lower it is not out the window if you really want to add the expense, but I have seen people lower their car with factory wheels that sit way inside and the look really was not an improvement but maybe the performance or ride was improved or maybe not.
Again to each their own and my apologies if my comments or suggestions offended you.
@MBJIMBO, I guess some of what/how we mean to express ourselves is lost through the magic of the internet and simple text. I am nothing but settled. I am not offended by anything that has been posted on this thread and no apologies are necessary. We are on a forum and we are simply expressing our opinions.
Now, pictures are worth a thousand words. What I mean is this: This is what a lower offset wheel and not lowering a vehicle would net you. Commonly referred to a the 4x4 status. Some people love this. Me, not so much, but, I sorta see it as a muscle car thing. That would definitely rub should enough load be applied to the rear.
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The "Wheel gap", as it is commonly referred to, is gone as a result of lowering the vehicle. Not so much cuz the wheel offset is low (in this case it is {low offset wheel for the application}, first picture I found on the web) and will also definitively rub.
What you were referring to Sunken in. Typical look when lowering on stock wheels. Spacers will get them "flush"/on par w/ fender and no "wheel gap" because the car is lowered.
2018 E300 Sport:Current 2015 Mercedes Benz C300 Sport- Gone.
Originally Posted by Rehabguy
@MBJIMBO, I guess some of what/how we mean to express ourselves is lost through the magic of the internet and simple text. I am nothing but settled. I am not offended by anything that has been posted on this thread and no apologies are necessary. We are on a forum and we are simply expressing our opinions.
Now, pictures are worth a thousand words. What I mean is this: This is what a lower offset wheel and not lowering a vehicle would net you. Commonly referred to a the 4x4 status. Some people love this. Me, not so much, but, I sorta see it as a muscle car thing. That would definitely rub should enough load be applied to the rear.
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The "Wheel gap", as it is commonly referred to, is gone as a result of lowering the vehicle. Not so much cuz the wheel offset is low (in this case it is {low offset wheel for the application}, first picture I found on the web) and will also definitively rub.
What you were referring to Sunken in. Typical look when lowering on stock wheels. Spacers will get them "flush"/on par w/ fender and no "wheel gap" because the car is lowered.
I am glad to know you are not offended. You are obviously very passionate about your views and statement and I was not meaning to discredit your remarks.
The pictures you show clearly identify how a car will look lowered and not lowered. In the case on a Mercedes-Benz which is what we are talking about, my own experience lead me to this conclusion, but so has many years of being in the business where I worked for many years starting with Lorinser, then Brabus, to ultimately being the importer for Carlsson. On many occasions people wanting a more aggressive stance on their car was always the ultimate request, meeting those results would come from lowering the vehicle, or in the case where someone has concerns about lowering, adding a more aggressive aftermarket wheel presented an ideal option, as well as an optical illusion to being lowered and if when the car was fit with more aggressive wheels and they still wanted to lower it, they could do that. In every instance wheels were their first choice, but others sometimes had lowering as their first choice. I guess it just depends on the individual and what they are willing to do and spend to modify their car.
As I mentioned in my circumstance a few years ago when the new C class W205 sport was introduced I was the Carlsson importer and the car I purchased came with the 19" sport wheels 7.5/8.5x19 and I changed it up with an 8.5/9.5x19 setup which really filled out the fenders for me and I really did not see the need to lower it as the front of the newer cars compared to the older ones was much lower and I would say I did not want my wife to hit a tire block in a parking lot, but I would need to admit that I probably would too LOL!
Attached are some pics from when the car was stock and also when I fit wheels on it, and then later sold the Carlsson stuff and put it back to stock, but added 12mm/15mm spacers to keep the aggressive wheel stance.
I am glad you were not offended and I too also meant no disrespect to your opinion, I was simply looking at if from my perspective of always giving value options to customers as I have seen customers who lowered their cars and came back to raise them up because they were spending too much money on front spoiler repairs! Thanks the discussion as I am sure the original poster will appreciate all the info and pics. Take Care!
Offsets are custom and they said +44 for rears they've always done. Seemed very conservative when I have seen one other with mid 30 offset.
Worst case a spacer I guess but I will have to see what fitment looks like first. However, I have confirmed the tire sizes will fit and can be slammed with the air suspension as per another CLS550.
Front: Face 1 20x9 ET 25 Rear: Face 3 20x11 ET 38 Tire Sizes: 255/35/20 285/30/20
My only change would be 295 rear. Noting this is one step up tire profile, seems the car handles it perfectly.
Stance looks on point. I like it! IMO, lowering must go hand in hand w/ perfect spec wheels and tires in order to achieve the right look. Post up when you get yours done!
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