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Old 06-27-2005, 04:59 PM
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Cancelled my Order

I had ordered the CLS55 with performance package ... and with the input from the members here found out that the car wouldn't be delivered until November. My dealer didn't bother telling me and after calling he confirmed.

This is a huge dissapointment. I would expect a reputable dealer and manufacturer to notify its clients when changes have been made. Unfortunately for Smythe I can't necessarily blame then since they werent notified by mercedes.

As such, I have cancelled my order for a granite grey CLS 55 that should be delivered around early August to SMythe European in San Jose, Ca. Its at MSRP so if anyone wants it ... go get it.

Okay now what should I buy now!!!
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you cant wait 3 extra months for the sexiest 4 door car around that beats a porsche gt3 around a race track? WHAT THE HELL ELSE IS THERE OUT THERE???
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Originally Posted by Jesseliu
I had ordered the CLS55 with performance package ... and with the input from the members here found out that the car wouldn't be delivered until November. My dealer didn't bother telling me and after calling he confirmed.

This is a huge dissapointment. I would expect a reputable dealer and manufacturer to notify its clients when changes have been made. Unfortunately for Smythe I can't necessarily blame then since they werent notified by mercedes.

As such, I have cancelled my order for a granite grey CLS 55 that should be delivered around early August to SMythe European in San Jose, Ca. Its at MSRP so if anyone wants it ... go get it.

Okay now what should I buy now!!!
go buy a honda theres 5000 down at the dealership. you can get one in about an hour! whaaaaaaaaaa i want my cls today!
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Hate to pile on here, but to cancel based on a delay is just plain silly. Best idea is to go find another dealer who might be able to get you what you want sooner, but you will be more than disappointed if you take a pass on the car. Mine was delayed, and I could have ordered a whole host of cars, but "good things come to those who wait."
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man thats stupid to cancel an order based on having to wait...
as they say "good things come to those who wait" !!
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Am I the only one on Earth that searches Auto Trader.....

There are minimum 15 New CLS55AMG's ready to roll.

NO, they are not going to be exactly what ya want....but then again, "non waiters can't be choosers"

Auto Trader listing of CLS55's
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Am I the only one on Earth that searches Auto Trader.....

There are minimum 15 New CLS55AMG's ready to roll.

NO, they are not going to be exactly what ya want....but then again, "non waiters can't be choosers"

Auto Trader listing of CLS55's


I think the performance package is what the big hub-ub is about, not just the plain CLS55.

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Old 06-27-2005, 10:57 PM
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Very interesting input from some of you users. I've been a loyal mercedes owner for quite some time.( CLK 430(2), ML430, E320,E55, CL500, and even a 300D)

Other than the fact that the PERFORMANCE PACKAGE is what I really had to have on this car for me to purchase ... there are always the doubts that have been in the back of mind regarding reliability. So add the delay and my fears of realiability I have decided not to purchase. Regarding just the delay ... its not just 3 months its min 5 months. This definitely factored in because we all know that the supercharged 55 motor is being switched out by a NA 6.3 moter. I already got burned when I bought my old '99 E55 when they switched to the supercharged version. Since its a matter of either waiting 5 months for a new CLS55 or waiting 12 months for a CLS63 ...

My comments online were to notify other uses that were purchasing the 030 option that I had confirmed thru my dealer that this option would not be available, on delivered cars, until November-December time frame.

If the quality of mercedes owners has gone this far downhill ... I'm glad to say I'm not a (new) mercedes owner. How sad ... those that had negative comments are starting to sound like a great deal of BMW owners.

Since I decide not to purchase a CLS55 ... that can only leave one more for those that are enthusiastic about it.

BTW, no I have not decided on what car to get now. There truly aren't many cars that can compare. I might wait until the new CLS63, new CL63, M6, Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 997, etc.
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what's the option if u don't mind answering.
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Originally Posted by Peter B
you cant wait 3 extra months for the sexiest 4 door car around that beats a porsche gt3 around a race track? WHAT THE HELL ELSE IS THERE OUT THERE???
Really - what race track would that be?!
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Originally Posted by Jesseliu
Very interesting input from some of you users. I've been a loyal mercedes owner for quite some time.( CLK 430(2), ML430, E320,E55, CL500, and even a 300D)

Other than the fact that the PERFORMANCE PACKAGE is what I really had to have on this car for me to purchase ... there are always the doubts that have been in the back of mind regarding reliability. So add the delay and my fears of realiability I have decided not to purchase. Regarding just the delay ... its not just 3 months its min 5 months. This definitely factored in because we all know that the supercharged 55 motor is being switched out by a NA 6.3 moter. I already got burned when I bought my old '99 E55 when they switched to the supercharged version. Since its a matter of either waiting 5 months for a new CLS55 or waiting 12 months for a CLS63 ...

My comments online were to notify other uses that were purchasing the 030 option that I had confirmed thru my dealer that this option would not be available, on delivered cars, until November-December time frame.

If the quality of mercedes owners has gone this far downhill ... I'm glad to say I'm not a (new) mercedes owner. How sad ... those that had negative comments are starting to sound like a great deal of BMW owners.

Since I decide not to purchase a CLS55 ... that can only leave one more for those that are enthusiastic about it.

BTW, no I have not decided on what car to get now. There truly aren't many cars that can compare. I might wait until the new CLS63, new CL63, M6, Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 997, etc.
dude we already knew about the option and when its comming out, your just not up on things. and i don't think anyone was being neg, I just think we're giving you the business because the cls55 is sweet an worth waiting for. and since your a big baller that can buy what ever, I'd say go for the Aston!! and i wouldn't worry, that new motor won't be out in 12 months.

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mw231 - "Top Gear" tested the CLS55 on their road course that they test all their cars on and low and behold the the relatively portly CLS55 was quicker than the GT3 by .1 sec. - Bob

Heres the video, select Top Gear and then CLS55 -

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Originally Posted by Jesseliu
I already got burned when I bought my old '99 E55 when they switched to the supercharged version.
I don't get this, you bought an E55 in 1999 and you are complaining that it was replaced by the supercharged model in 2003? That doesn't make sense to me, please explain.
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is the NA 6.3L a sure thing or still a rumor?

what kind of hp and tq is it supposed to produce
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Originally Posted by Jesseliu
BTW, no I have not decided on what car to get now. There truly aren't many cars that can compare. I might wait until the new CLS63......
LMAO...now you don't mind waiting???

Perhaps you should consult Tom Cruise's shrink for what to buy next
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thought i might add a new idea into your mind, if you just want a new car now buy a 997 turbo since its gonna have the all new performance increase and porsche doesnt really touch that section to many times a year (i GOT MY NAME ON THE LIST FOR THE 997 C2S CABRIOLET - delivery for august) but if you got the money and dont mind waiting a little longer for something "exclusive" i would say put your name on a list now for the new CLE63 amg that should be coming out. i already talked to my dealer about it.
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Originally Posted by Evolution Marine
mw231 - "Top Gear" tested the CLS55 on their road course that they test all their cars on and low and behold the the relatively portly CLS55 was quicker than the GT3 by .1 sec. - Bob

Heres the video, select Top Gear and then CLS55 -

http://www.mysubprofile.com/mbworld/
I don't think this is very representative, as the driver always tends to go more sideways than straight, and a little bit more drift can influence a lap time by a lot. I don't think a CLS 55 would have much of a chance on a winding race track against a GT3 with both cars being driven smoothly (no drifting). Straight line is a different story. A GT3 and E55 both had low 12 quarter mile times in all recent magazine reviews.
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Jesseliu...

i believe i may understand your thinking...

why wait 5 months min only to find that waiting somewhat longer would bring the model supplanting what you'd waited for originally? is that a fair interpretation?

and as long as you don't have to get another car -- you have and expect to keep at least one acceptable vehicle -- there's no reason to get something that may ultimately disappoint you. hence, you cancelled. is that also a fair interpretation?

please let me know if i'm off base.
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Yes David

Correct that is how I feel.

Chappy : read David's post

schwarzwagen : I shouldn't be upset its more of a damn I want that feel!

AdaMBombC32G : the 997 turbo is a choice but it is on the high end of my budget. I haven't looked into this car yet in detail but I will. Thanks.
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Jesseliu...

that's precisely how i feel about getting an SL presently: styling, engines, COMAND, and other equipment are all pending changes.

it bothers me immensely that acquiring any end-cycle model would deal a double depreciation: first, off the lot; second, upon introduction of noticeably changed model.

so, i'll wait. or, i'll find a good, favorably-priced 2004 SL500, hold on to it until predictable changes are done, and bugs are worked out. and then i'll jump into the new model.

IMHO, to acquire now would not be a cogent decision...unless one is entirely unconcerned about costs.
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Something Worth Waiting For

Originally Posted by Jesseliu
Correct that is how I feel.

Chappy : read David's post

schwarzwagen : I shouldn't be upset its more of a damn I want that feel!

AdaMBombC32G : the 997 turbo is a choice but it is on the high end of my budget. I haven't looked into this car yet in detail but I will. Thanks.
imho, i would wait for the AMG version of the NEW "C L E" yes that an E not an S... its a 4 door , real coupe version, follow this link for the information available for now.

and btw, the 63 is to be AMGs new engine... it will be n/a 6.3liter V8... basically a bored out version of the new 5.5 32v 48 coming out. the good news that i've heard is that it should be considerably less in weight cause of all new material and lack of the "kompressor - supercharger" making roughly 500hp (at least for the higner end models) to match that of the new M5 and M6. TORQUE power im really not sure about but should be at least feasible,

anyway, check out this link
http://www.automobilemag.com/2007_sn...edes_benz_cle/

it says the new 5.5 N/A V8 should have about 390hp, but thats not the special edition i've heard about the "63" which will probably have a little less then 500hp, like the e55 and cls55 have (469hp) compared to the SL, CL and S that have 493hp.
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Originally Posted by schwarzwagen
I don't get this, you bought an E55 in 1999 and you are complaining that it was replaced by the supercharged model in 2003? That doesn't make sense to me, please explain.
I agree! I could somewhat understand if maybe 1999 and the supercharged version were the same chassis. So his complaint would be:

"Damn-it, I purchased an E55 in 1999 and the dealer did not tell me a supercharged E55 was coming in 2003!"
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AdaMBombC32G...

that CLE is a fine looking coupe. thanks for the lead.
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Originally Posted by Jesseliu
schwarzwagen : I shouldn't be upset its more of a damn I want that feel!
Ok, that makes more sense, but still the w211 is a completely new model. When a completely new model arrives, it usually is accompanied by an increase in power. That's one of the reasons for buying the new model. I would not cancel an order on a new car based on that.


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