Traded my CLS55 for M5
The bottom line is they are both amazing cars, but very different. The primary issue I had with the M5 was the look of the car vs. the AMG. I still think the CLS is a MUCH better looking car from the side angle. The rear view goes to the BMW and the front is a toss up (with a slight favor for the CLS IMO). I must say that the M5 looks much, much better in person than in pictures. When I arrived to pick it up and saw it, I was relieved because I was happily suprised.
The interior is a tough call. The BMW is the most comfortable interior I have sat in. Some of the controls (like turn signals) are better in the BMW. The iDrive is so-so. I am getting used to it, but the longer MB stays away from that type of system, the better. The "keyless go" in the BMW is better because there is no annoying beep to contend with. Locking the car only requires touching ot on the door handle to lock. No button on the door is cooler. The placement of the start button on the dash is better, but should be moved to a more visible location.
The drive is the big difference. The MB has torque and will leave the M5 from a dead stop. Since my car isn't passed the break-in period, I can't really explore the upper limits. What I can say is that over 2k RPMs and up to the current limit of 5,500 RPMs, when in P500 mode, this thing has a ton of power. In a drag race from a dead stop, the CLS should win. The unbiased truth is that they are probably about the same with the low end edge to the MB and the upper RPM edge to the BMW. The handling of the BMW (as I learn the car) is amazing. At first I didn't notice a big difference, my opinion on that is starting to change. It is a sportier drive. The EDC adjustments make a much more noticeable change to the suspension than the Airmatic settings do.
The SMG is very cool and requires more driver involvement. The more I use, it the more I love it. It is already second nature after only 300 miles.
The BMW Bluetooth is amazing. Why MB isn't there yet is cause for embarrassment.
The paint on the MB is slightly better as is the nano clearcoat which will really protect the car's finish longer term.
The HK Logic 7 is better sounding in the BMW (don't know why).
That's it for now. Again, both are great car and there shouldn't be a battle between the MB and BMW camps. Neither car is better than the other, just different. I do miss the CLS a little.
I love them both, but for now the BMW is in the garage.
Last edited by jkrutch; Nov 26, 2005 at 04:13 PM.
i hope you wont have any problems with that car and tons if fun. like you said ... both are nice cars and when the M5 suits you more atm than the CLS then it was the right choice.
never had the chance to drive in any of the two but it must be awesome.
When it comes to performance, those two cars seem to be very close (there might even be a little advantage in favour of the CLS). So why couldn't they do any better (12/18 MPG, I guess) after such a long development?? I doubt that a low gas-mileage is required to achieve a great handling...
As I said, it's not a question of money, it's a question of convenience when you have to fill-up every 220 miles...
Just my 2 cents...
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The upcoming Panamera could be it, the jury is still out. I am really curious to see the numbers on the 030 package CLS. I expect much better handling from that. I also love the Maserate Q-porte. It needs 100HP more and that might just be "IT".
When it comes to performance, those two cars seem to be very close (there might even be a little advantage in favour of the CLS). So why couldn't they do any better (12/18 MPG, I guess) after such a long development?? I doubt that a low gas-mileage is required to achieve a great handling...
As I said, it's not a question of money, it's a question of convenience when you have to fill-up every 220 miles...
Just my 2 cents...
i saw a black m5 on the freeway 2days ago. looks much better in person, like u said. however i have to disagree w/ u on the looks of the rear end, i think the cls looks better, just my opinion. the m5 is faster than the cls in a straight but it has to work harder to do it. as for handling, it should be like night and day, the m5 is much more driver oriented. enjoy a great car, i hope it will come w/ a stick soon.
the panamera will **** on all other performance saloons when it comes out, until then the m5 is the most driver focused sedan on the market
Totally different feel...this is why I am torturing myself daily between the M6 I have on order (May-June delivery) and the CLS63 I have ordered 18months ago....(god knows when that will come in??....I thought mid year 06 but I am getting more sceptical)....I am really torn between these two cars..if only the bimmer had a better interior....
You're speaking as if you have driven both cars...have you?
As for the Panamera, I am withholding judgement until it is out.
i saw a black m5 on the freeway 2days ago. looks much better in person, like u said. however i have to disagree w/ u on the looks of the rear end, i think the cls looks better, just my opinion. the m5 is faster than the cls in a straight but it has to work harder to do it. as for handling, it should be like night and day, the m5 is much more driver oriented. enjoy a great car, i hope it will come w/ a stick soon.
the panamera will **** on all other performance saloons when it comes out, until then the m5 is the most driver focused sedan on the market
You're speaking as if you have driven both cars...have you?
As for the Panamera, I am withholding judgement until it is out.
by the way, i have driven a gallardo and didnt like it one bit, it understeers way too much (very fast on the straight though). they need to make a sv version w/ rear drive and less weight.
I have owned 3 996TT's and the Gallardo runs circles around them in every aspect (except 1st gear acceleration). As for the understeer you mention, you drove a car that was messed up or didn't get to learn how to drive it properly. The Gallardo is a neutral as they come and the handling of that car is head and shoulders above all others I have owned including Z06 Vettes, Vipers (old and new) NSX and more.
by the way, i have driven a gallardo and didnt like it one bit, it understeers way too much (very fast on the straight though). they need to make a sv version w/ rear drive and less weight.
You're speaking as if you have driven both cars...have you?
As for the Panamera, I am withholding judgement until it is out.
Enjoy your M5. Good buddy of mine has one we took a few pics of our cars a few weeks ago. I have a E55 not a CLS55 but they all look aggresive
I drove his car and it's a BEAST above 5000 RPM and over 100 mph.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/127320-kids-had-play-date.html
Enjoy in good health!
Last edited by 04E55 AMG; Nov 29, 2005 at 09:26 AM.
Here is the perfect car IMO....SMG III gearbox linked to the AMG 63 motor with the ride/handling/feel of the M5 and the look of the CLS (with a nicer tushy). The M5 seats and some of the features of iDrive with the radio controls of the MB. What I am realizing is a hybrid of the M5 and CLS is my pefect car. Each has strengths and weaknesses and somewhere in between both is perfection for me. I think the M6 could be the best of both for now.

Congrats on a very nice car, hope you will continue to enjoy it.
You know, most M owners prefer the stealthy look of the M5, at last that goes for the Euro owners.
One of the ting I liked the most with my M`s was that 99% would take it for a normal BMW.
Your point with to small fuel tank is valid and has been dicussed on our forum as well.
Regarding the consumtion, I think you will discover that it will normalize after you have stopped playing with the downshift every moment you can,
and the engines is fully broken in. But you will never win a economy race with it.
You know, most M owners prefer the stealthy look of the M5, at last that goes for the Euro owners.
One of the ting I liked the most with my M`s was that 99% would take it for a normal BMW.
Your point with to small fuel tank is valid and has been dicussed on our forum as well.
Regarding the consumtion, I think you will discover that it will normalize after you have stopped playing with the downshift every moment you can,
and the engines is fully broken in. But you will never win a economy race with it.
BTW: In what way do you feel it outhandles the 996TT ? Is is in the "feel" or have you actually done some timing to make that conclution ? Numbers from Europe on the "Ring" and also the Hockenheim indicates more or less simular performance. I belive the 996TT was faster on the ring and the G was faster on Hockenheim.....
EDIT: Thats wrong. The G beat it on both tracks. Sorry for the mistake.
Anyway both of them are great cars and definatly on my wish list.
When the M5 is properly broken in and have gotten +4000 miles on it, take the Gallardo and the M5 out and let us know how big the difference is.
Take care
Last edited by Erik; Nov 29, 2005 at 04:50 PM.
BTW: In what way do you feel it outhandles the 996TT ? Is is in the "feel" or have you actually done some timing to make that conclution ? Numbers from Europe on the "Ring" and also the Hockenheim indicates more or less simular performance. I belive the 996TT was faster on the ring and the G was faster on Hockenheim.....
EDIT: Thats wrong. The G beat it on both tracks. Sorry for the mistake.
Anyway both of them are great cars and definatly on my wish list.
When the M5 is properly broken in and have gotten +4000 miles on it, take the Gallardo and the M5 out and let us know how big the difference is.
Take care



